In mysterious ways, right?
Cool… cool cool cool… So if it’s Gods job you are going to start taxing the rich and providing services and governance? No? Ah beans.
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Yall queda
now the most democratic country of the world, the homeland of freedom itself
Neither of those are even close to true…
Or ever have been
I’m having difficulty with the bit where you call the USA the “homeland of freedom itself”. I know Americans like to believe they live in the best country in the world but the evidence to the country is pretty substantial.
Personally I think that a free country probably doesn’t have a police force that’s killed more of its own citizens than a hostile nation state could ever hope to achieve.
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quotation marks probably would help.
Most democratic country is Norway.
USA is at position 26.
https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/most-democratic-countries/
The list is interesting to be sure, but as with most linear rankings of large datasets it leaves lots of room for debate. But I think that’s the point. It’s not meant to be used as a rhetorical sledgehammer to silence discussion the way you have used it here.
It’s kind of shocking how many of them have an actual monarchy still, with real actual powers over the government despite claims that they are mostly symbolic. Top of the list, Norway, still has a King. New Zealand, still a colony with a King. Finland and Iceland actually have elected presidents. Sweden, curators of the democracy ranking list, still have a monarchy. Each monarch claims they are only symbolic, but if that’s true and these countries are truly the more perfect democracies they claim to be, one has to wonder why the people have kept such oligarchs in a position of power over them. In some cases the power seems to have only passed from the monarch to the parliament out of custom, not actual legislation or constitution.
Agreed, we need some more guillotine based fashion.
I certainly never intended to silence discussion. I’d have said I was opening up the discussion, if anything, by poi ting out that there’s some data available that suggests the USA is far from the most democratic nation. Which, as I read it, was a tongue in cheek statement in the comment I replied to.
But, now it is being discussed, I’m interested in the view that monarchy should have a paeticylarly large negative weight on the ranking. I’m not a royalist and think any monarchy with even a hint of power means less than absolute democracy. But I don’t think many of the monarchies in those high ranking countries have as much of a negative impact as other factors that can reduce the input of a population to the democratic process. The big one for me would be how individual voting gets weighted.
USA is also anything but “the homeland of freedom itself”
The phrase only implies that modern democracy grew in popularity as a system of government after its start in the United States, not that the U.S. is a perfect democracy. I took a closer look at the list of “most democratic” countries in the comment to which you’re replying. Have you? It’s kind of shocking how new most of those governments are.
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Imagine giving an entire species free will to do whatever they want, then getting pissed off because of how a % of that species decides to find pleasure and get into relationships, and then collectively punishing a specific geographical region based on that small %.
But wait, create people with those tendencies and even though you are all knowing all seeing and infallible, you were wrong in creating them??
“God made me gay. Who are you to question his wisdom?”
Also those same Americans who think that go off their nuts if you suggest America isn’t the greatest place on earth. Seems like, for all the gayness, it’s doing fine* and yet basically any country that has rules against being gay is also in a range of pretty shitty states.
*America is not doing fine, but largely in the same way a lot of places aren’t under capitalism.
Please, ask god to stop priests and church leaders from molesting children. Thanks.
Maybe god wants us to be gay so when the aliens come it won’t be weird.
I asked, and he said “nah”
Surprised you even got an answer. That prick has been ghosting mankind for thousands of years!
It’s getting more and more difficult to understand where they are coming from. I ask my boyfriend what we want to make for dinner, while our speaker asks his son, a minor, to monitor him so that he doesn’t get addicted to porn. The relationship I have with my boyfriend is just as healthy, maybe even more healthy than the relationships I’ve had with women. I give people a pass in the 00s since being queer was rare, but queer people have been in the mainstream for well over a decade at this point, and we are a known quantity. We just want a happy life like everyone else. That’s it.
I often laugh that some religious people most likely spend more time thinking about gay sex than we do. Which is once a week if that for us.
We just want a happy life like everyone else
I thought you wanted to indoctrinate the kids with the woke mind virus, and various other buzzwords and word salad
Seriously, who can possibly be so invested in the personal lives and relationships of others?
I genuinely don’t understand how you can waste your time with that amount of hate.
It’s extremism, plain and simple. Live the life you want and let others live theirs.
Be kind. Support one another despite any differences we may have. Seriously, WTF?
I honestly don’t understand who votes for this guy because they believes that he represents them. 
Life would be so much better if everyone just left each other alone. Like 90% of people in the world literally don’t care the 10% that are making the world a crap place.
Considering LGBTQ+ is a protected group in the USA, surely the Speaker of the House Mike Johnson’s comments are tantamount to criminal harassment if not hate motivated harassment.
We don’t have hate crimes. That’s not a concept that exists legally. As for harrassment, I don’t think it’d stand in court, and good luck suing the Speaker of the House
Considering LGBTQ+ is a protected group in the USA
[citation needed]
As far as I understand, the US “Equality Act” fizzled out the last time it tried to make its way through the US parliament. That would codify LGBTQ+ protections into actual law in the US. The closest thing I can find is a Supreme Court ruling that LGBTQ protections are covered under the Civil Rights Act in Bostock v. Clayton County, but the Supreme Court is a fickle beast, and I doubt they would rule the same way today if it were challenged again.
The weirdest part is if an uprising ever happen in the US due to their decades of terrible policy making; they’ll blame the gays and Muslims for it all. So yes, their technically right…
Someone found dad’s yiff stash and really pissed him off
Well it would be his own son who found it because they are browser activity accountability buddies
Precisely
That’s really fucking weird man. What man cares that much about his own grown sons porn viewing habits. The level of control this freak feels entitled to is wild.
100%, but the weird part is having his son do the same for him. Even if he never watches porn it’s just gross
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It is always some hateful delusional person talking about God is going to hate people for being LGBTQ.
And they usually end up being gay, too.
They don’t. Most times, they are just hateful people. I’m sure there are some that are in the closet, but on the whole, they are just hateful. The opposite of what their god wants.
I’m specifically talking about politicians, though. There are a ton of super right wing gay hating politicians that have been caught sucking dick or something similar.
The sort of people who talk about homosexuality in terms of it being disgusting animalistic lust… because they’re ashamed of lusting after it, and think that it is just a part of everyone’s nature which they suppress.
I think the element of power plays into too - like how in Ancient Rome it was totally okay for a man to have sex with other men, as long as the higher status man was on top. They don’t view sex as an act between equals, they view it as an expression of power.
Leviticus’s condemnations of gay sex are rooted in that - it was common in Bronze Age warfare to rape enemy combatants as a way of humiliating and demasculinizing them.
Leviticus tells you to kill both involved and mentions nothing about war in either instance. It was specifically to go against consensual sex between males. Don’t apologize for the text, if the author had intended it to be stopping war rape it would have said that. The author was fine with war rape which is why it specifically tells the reader to take the girls you find in battle.
There is no god and the Bible is shit. Time to move on.
Not apologia - I have no investment in the beliefs of folks in a specific area from 1000-500 BCE, I just find them fascinating to study for obvious reasons. But Leviticus is a document written in a specific historical context - relationships are entirely man/property. Consenting to sex is not really a thing. Treating a man like a woman is defiling him, he is also now a thing defiled he must be destroyed to purify the community.
I also doubt that enforcement was even happening at the time the texts were written.
Like, the question of “what happens if a woman reaches out to break up a fight between two men, and she accidentally grabs some dudes ‘nads” is discussed at length. They are responding to specific concerns at a historical period which has very little in common with our own. The idea that “sex is supposed to be with someone you love and consider your equal” was as alien to them as it was to my ex 🗿
We also shouldn’t assume that the Bible is univocal - there are so many different authors/rewriters/compilers with different agendas writing in different time periods. This is why I brought up Leviticus and not Paul’s (and not-Paul’s) shit, because I don’t know enough Greek to argue about arsenokoitai lol.
I think there’s something to that. Like they get excited thinking about boy’s linuses, so they presume everyone else is also, and only so many people are gay, hence the deduction that homosexuality is a choice
If god was real, the sky would open up and he’d smush this stupid fuck for using his namesake to spread lies, fear, and bullshit
It’s this another round of Republicans blaming the increase in hurricanes on gay people?
I don’t subscribe to the assertion that most anti homosexual activists are closeted but this guy for sure is. His “son” and jerk off monitoring plus this type of statement is pretty clear evidence that he really wants dick but is terrified of acting on it.
