• @Laticauda@lemmy.ca
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    Probably the same as who gets milked in real life. Animals drink milk too I don’t understand why people are constantly thrown off by this, it’s just as normal if not more normal to drink milk in the animal kingdom.

    • @WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world
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      It’s not the drinking milk thats weird. It’s the fact that they would have to be farming milk from intelligent animals to get it. Like if cows could talk and were as smart as humans I think people would find farming milk from them a little weird.

      • @Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        142 years ago

        The milk drinking is just as weird, since no other animal continues drinking milk after passing their baby state. Only humans do that.

        • Sybil
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          22 years ago

          no other animal continues drinking milk after passing their baby state

          any predator will eat lactating mammaries. birds and reptiles are also known to drink mammalian milk.

        • @Laticauda@lemmy.ca
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          no other animal continues drinking milk after passing their baby state

          This is not even close to true. Even adult cows will occasionally grab a sip from another cow or even themselves.

      • BadlyDrawnRhino
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        22 years ago

        How is it more weird to get milk from intelligent animals that are capable of giving consent?

      • @Laticauda@lemmy.ca
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        32 years ago

        Humans sell their own breastmilk to other humans for human consumption all the time in real life, it is completely normal for humans to drink human milk as well as the milk or other animals. The only difference in Zootopia is that every animal would be providing their milk consensually and likely selling it themselves. There’s nothing weird about that.

    • @Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Farming milk involves forcefully insemination cows to get pregnant so they produce milk in the first place. Often times in factory farming, their calves are taken away for “repurposing”. Combine that with the typical living conditions for the average milk cow and it wouldn’t be hard to imagine why people that have any idea of how the industry functions would be thrown off by this.

      Imagine human women being treated like this for the milk they produce so that you get to enjoy a cheap pleasure.

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        We sell breast milk without forcefully inseminating women just fine, this leap of logic doesn’t make any sense. We treat cows as livestock because we view cows as animals not people, whether their treatment is cruel or not is a different irrelevant argument, but in Zootopia they’d just be seen as people and would have control over the supply so obviously cows wouldn’t be treated the same way in Zootopia as they are in real life. They’d only have to milk themselves and sell it just like when women sell breast milk in real life. If anything it’s even less weird and disturbing to think about than in real life.

      • @PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
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        42 years ago

        Tell me you know nothing about farming without actually saying it.

        Cows and other livestock are raised in farms to raise more cows anyway. Farmers don’t keep male cows around for fun, and cows aren’t pets. All non-breeding stock gets eaten.

  • Th4tGuyII
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    Who’s to say cows can’t be milked in Zootopia?
    If you can earn money by donating blood and organs (i.e. part of a kidney or liver), guys can earn money donating sperm, women donating eggs, then why couldn’t a Zootopia cow (or other mammals for that matter) donate their milk?

    • thisisbutaname
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      92 years ago

      Because they’d have to be pregnant first, and they’d rather feed their calves.

      Also, why am I taking this seriously?

      • @Laticauda@lemmy.ca
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        42 years ago

        Cows produce excess milk, and many animals will continue to lactate if milked for an extended period even after giving birth and no longer being pregnant. If it makes them money then why not?

      • Th4tGuyII
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        You’re not wrong, maybe cows choose formula and sell their milk?
        Fuck knows ¯\(ツ)

        • @crawancon@lemm.ee
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          maybe there’s a zootopia Nestlé that all the animals also fucking hate and want to go away because Nestlé is a cancer on this earth as well as anyone that works for them.

          fuck Nestlé

          • Th4tGuyII
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            Seriously, Fuck Nestlé.

            Can’t get rid of them because they hide behind a litany of brands (and companies) in order to avoid their bad reputation, making it almost impossible for the average person to properly boycott them without knowing just how many brands (and companies) they own.

  • @paddirn@lemmy.world
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    322 years ago

    Almost any meat or dairy products they’d be eating would questionable in that movie. How are the carnivore animals surviving? Do they just eat tofu? Or is there some sort of population of slave animals that are kept un-evolved that are born & bred for meat/dairy products?

    • @Thrawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      32 years ago

      Extras for the movie explained that it is processed insect protein. The intelligent animals in their world are exclusively mammals. No insects or reptiles etc.

      The mammals part is in the early part with the play Judy is in.

    • unalivejoy
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      How are the carnivore animals surviving? Do they just eat tofu?

      This is exactly what the movie explains. There’s an underground black market dealing with kidnapping and illegal meat.

      Or am I confusing this with Beastars?

    • @thawed_caveman@lemmy.world
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      There’s no reason to invent plant milk if you don’t already consume milk. It’s a product that was designed to emulate and replace something else that already exists.

      • Star
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        Just because we call it plant-based milk on Earth doesn’t mean that’s what they call it there. They call it ice cream and it could be made from plants.

        And there is 100% reason to invent plant milk if you don’t drink animal milk. It’s a drink. We like it so we invent it.

      • @AAA@feddit.de
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        142 years ago

        Because nothing is ever being invented if not to replace something?

        That argument is just wrong. If it was true there’d be exactly one drink and one food. Because we’d only invent something new if it was to replace the existing thing.

        • @thawed_caveman@lemmy.world
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          12 years ago

          Yes, this argument is wrong. Which is why i wasn’t making it.

          Plant milk, specifically, is something that you woudln’t think to invent unless you’re trying to replace cow milk.

      • Annoyed_🦀
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        42 years ago

        It’s zootopia, most mammal drink milk, so maybe they grow up liking milk and found a way to make one using plant-based material because drinking your neighbours milk is just awkward.

      • @ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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        202 years ago

        No, they make imitation ice cream now - I’ve seen almond, oat, and coconut milk used. It’s more similar to real ice cream than sorbet is. There’s a noticeable difference but I actually like the imitation ice cream more because it doesn’t have the sour aftertaste I get from milk. The downside is that it’s more expensive; I’ve only ever seen it sold in the premium-priced one-pint containers.