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That X is pronounced “sh” right?
I think so yes but I can’t not read it ckzitter lol
I was thinking “fr”…
Found the 15th century Spaniard
Or any century Chinese.
Politics? In my Green Day?
It’s more likely than you think.
It’s funny - I agree with Green Day in most ways politically, but stopped listening after American Idiot because so much of their music was blatantly political. That’s what they were going for, it is CLEAR and OBVIOUS to anyone listening to their music, where they stand. I am all for it, I would just rather be escaping the world’s issues while listening to music :)
All art is political
What was baby shark speaking to politically? “What does the fox say” about interest rates?
I get what you mean, it’s just funny to apply that to obvious nonsense music lol
Since no one really responded with a serious answer I’ll go ahead and chime in.
The art itself my not carry a poignant message about our political world, but it exists in a political world and thus is political in nature.
It could be argued that everyone has an obligation to honestly and intellectually engage with the political nature of our world. And by not doing this an artist is choosing to ingore the political nature of their own reality
Choosing to “not be political” is itself a political stance. Regardless of whether or not it was a conscious one
(And yes, I know sometimes people just want to have fun. I’m not condemning fun. Just giving a serious response to the silly extreme example)
(Also, also there’s a whole 'nother can of worms if you want to talk about art as commodity)
Baby Shark is about the increasing rise of extended families as a “nuclear family” is a thing of the past. “What Does the Fox Say?” is pretty clear on what the fox has to say about interest rates:
Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding! Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding! Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!
Those are no art
Hey some nonsense songs have political undertones, for example chocolate rain.
Some stay dry while others feel the pain.
edit: Okay after reminding myself of the lyrics it’s actually a proletarian anthem and a banger
Dude, they’re a punk band, or at least they were. That’s literally the point of the genre
I listen to punk because of the politics lol. Rage against the machine, green day, the offspring, etc. Love them all
Army of Zombies by Lars Frederickson and The Bastard.
Maybe punk just isn’t your thing
It’s not anymore. You’re very correct.
It’s funny to me…I didn’t say they were bad, I didn’t say I didn’t like them, I didn’t say anything except for that they clearly took their music in a more in your face, political direction. That’s fine, I support them making that choice. I get that punk is inherently political, and that most music has hints of it. When I started listening, when 1039 came out - I was too young to understand what the music was about. Then came kerplunk and dookie. Dookie has many songs that are just about boredom, wasting time, or girls. Same thing for Insomniac and Nimrod. You cannot argue that EVERY song on those albums was political, it’s just not true. They became a pop-punk alternative band. That’s great, they still make great music, I just choose other styles and genres. Downvotes aren’t hurting me, but it seems excessive for sharing my thoughts.
For the record, I was a ride or die fan in the 90’s. 5 shows, one of them I waited by the outdoor stage for 3 hours to get a good spot. I had my art featured on the earliest version of their website, back in the AOL days. I still love the music I grew up with. Bands style, peoples preferences change…I just don’t want to think about the broken world when I listen to music anymore.
I quit listening to Green Day because it was impossible to escape When September Ends. Couldn’t go out in public without hearing it somewhere.
Legit makes me cry each time I hear it. I’ll probably listen to it when I get home today.
Honestly, 21 Guns and Boulevard of Broken Dreams were their only good songs with some actual depth. Everything else I consider cringe today.
I’ve never been more sure that someone wasn’t around in 1994.
Radio stations were practically airing Dookie on a loop.
I was in college. The mid-90s are a total blur to me.
If you remember the mid-90s you weren’t there.
Lol good one
Anyone who wants to censor culture is a fascist at their core. In a liberal democracy you can say anything but you’re not immune from the consequences.
That being said these users look fake AF and we should stop pretending Twitter/x/whatever is anything but a dead forum
Unfortunately they’re not only NOT fake, but irl they’re just as disgruntled and morally ugly as their online persona. Me and a friend finally got ourselves blocked by one common mutual who was behaving like that even in public and we couldn’t help but either A) block his stupid “centrist” hypocrite ass and never go out with him again or B) mock him, call him out and make fun of him for every unhinged thing he would say. We chose B and we had some good laughs upon his stupidity
Right, exactly that’s the reason everyone should be allowed to say the nword.
You can say the N word all you want. No law against it. Just prepare to get punched in the mouth a lot.
-__-
Say it if you like. Doesn’t reflect well on you if you do decide to.
Like a lot of fascism, it makes perfect sense if you understand the code words. “Inserting politics” or “getting political” means expressing a disallowed opinion that should be silenced. You’ll never hear this kind of language used about the approved opinions, only the to-be-silenced ones.
Exactly this.
Kneeling for the anthem is inserting politics into sports, playing the anthem before the game? Not at all inserting politics into sports.
Pride night? Not allowed. First responder (read: cop) Night? Totally cool.
Maybe conservatives just take a sharpie and put a comma on the album cover so it says “American, Idiot” as in they are yelling at someone that they are American and that they should have known by their ignorant angry voice.
We found him, its the American Idiot!
Those names don’t look very American, or real
The top one (Vas) looks to be Greek and the other looks to be Polish.
Yours is even worse, kiddo. Put down the stones.
America is a nation of immigrants. So how on earth would an “American name” look like? They are literally the most american names possible without being indiginous.
Pocahontas = American
John Doe = European scum
👍😁😁
You xweet is why.
Does anyone think people like that do this on purpose?
For context, original lyrics:
Don’t wanna be an American idiot
Don’t want a nation under the new media
And can you hear the sound of hysteria?
The subliminal mind fuck AmericaWelcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alienation
Where everything isn’t meant to be okay
Television dreams of tomorrow
We’re not the ones who’re meant to follow
For that’s enough to argueWell maybe I’m the faggot America
I’m not a part of a redneck agenda
Now everybody do the propaganda
And sing along to the age of paranoiaWelcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alienation
Where everything isn’t meant to be okay
Television dreams of tomorrow
We’re not the ones who’re meant to follow
For that’s enough to argueDon’t want to be an American idiot
One nation controlled by the media
Information age of hysteria
It’s calling out to idiot AmericaWelcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alienation
Where everything isn’t meant to be okay
Television dreams of tomorrow
We’re not the ones who’re meant to follow
For that’s enough to argueSuper tame.
In the New Year’s show, they changed “a redneck agenda” to “the MAGA agenda”. Okay, little bit more explicitly partisan, but basically the same thing.
Was f##got broadcast uncensored over the air?
Mindless self indulgence?
Hmm?
Referring to:
Well maybe I’m the [expletive] America
What were you asking about MSI? “Indulgence”, not ”Influence”, as I remember :)
Yeah sorry typo. Not sure what you’re saying though.
It was not
Well that change in lyrics certainly got the point across. 😂
“a redneck agenda” to “the MAGA agenda”
If MAGA as a name for these people had existed then, they would have used it. They’re the same people.
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Hashtagnotallrednecks.
And yet, as a leftist redneck, I whole heartedly approve of the change.
Feel a little more seen, even if it doesn’t mean anything.
It’s tame by today’s standards but at the time it got quite a few people in a tizzy
Yeah it was before bush was re-elected during the age of prime jingoism
I think part of the problem (aside from people that don’t ever listen to the words in songs) is less that the song/green day is apolitical in their interpretation, but more that for a lot of people the word “politics” means partisan politics. Being explicitly about a party or one of their core issues is what makes something 𝓅𝑜𝓁𝒾𝓉𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓁 to them.
Yeah. It’s fucking sad.
JSYK, using special characters to write “political” like that doesn’t work with screen readers. Best case scenario it skips the word entirely, worst case it reads out the name of each special character individually.
What is and is not political is defined by oppressors. Their crosses, punisher skulls, and blue lives matter stickers are not political. The atheist symbol, antifa arrows, and black lives matter stickers are political. A keffiyeh is a political statement, but an IDF shirt isn’t. “Political” functionally means “talking about your oppression or the oppression of others.”
It’s like they interpret music as just a noise that sounds appealing with no meaning.
Fuck you I won’t do what you tell me!
No idea on the rest of the lyrics, something about forces and crosses. I wasn’t really listening. I like crosses! Woo, Trump!
I guess this is the best place for this comment: about two years back my friend (who is a hardcore conservative, just not trump is God crazy and he doesn’t know about qanon), myself and two other guys (they’re all moderate or liberal) went to go see Rage Against The Machine for like the first time in 20 years. During one of the songs where he raps about humans living shitty lives because they can get ahead, there were posters all over saving things like "save the kids ". “feed the children”.
My conservative buddy looked at me during the posters were up and was he like "WTF is this shit?*
Hot take: Your buddy’s a fucking idiot. 🤗
They should have kept “hold office”. The rhyme works better, “works forces” isn’t a saying so it seems really forced, and apparently no one would have noticed anyway.
That’s how they interpret all art.
American Idiot was already political and already critical of the Republicans. I guess all these American idiots didn’t know the lyrics before?
"He’s the one
who likes all our pretty songs
and he likes to sing along
and he likes to shoot his gun
but he knows not what it means"
reminds me of the line in Hey Ya! by OutKast:
“y’all don’t wanna hear me, you just wanna dance”
Wait, are you gonna tell me rap is political too??
ofc not, i would never entertain such a ridiculous notion
It’s the rage against the machine all over again. Shows how truly dumb people are. Like do they even listen to the lyrics?
I doubt they’re even real people. This sniffs of a Russian campaign.
I hope you don’t mind Unix systems, cuz you should avoid Windows after a statement like that.
I’m such a klutz!
Whoopsie-doodle!
- No one, move along Komrade
Republicans are that stupid though so I can see some being real.
Yea they get caught up in it and start playing along
It’s the flat earth movement all over again. The flat earth thing started as a joke on 4chan. Like “wouldn’t it all be funny if we took something blatantly false and pretended to believe in it?” Then the idiots caught a whiff of it, mistook it for people being serious, then joined in unironically. At that point, 4chan took a step back and laughed, because what else can you do at that point? The idiocy fission reaction was self-sustaining at that point, so 4chan just let go of the reins and watched to see where it would go.
Birds aren’t real, dude
It dates back way further than 4chan, I want to say 70s maybe. But yeah this happens every couple of decades with flat earthers, hell I think there was a flat earth group back in the 1800s which was basically a running joke amongst naturalists. Then the dumbfucks came out of the woodwork.
Nah, I’ve got a family member who voted for trump and loves RatM. They honestly think the lyrics support conservative ideals, and advocate for violence against people who would change the country from the “good ol’ days.”
They just like the idea of killing in the name of. Sounds like a hoot.
I honestly think they believe “killing in the name of” is telling them to kill in the name of.
Some of those that work forces are the same who burned crosses…
The line between russian propagandists and MAGA idiots is indistinguishable.
“what did you think they were raging against? The dishwasher?”
I die a little inside every time someone gets offended by Money For Nothing.
But he’s wearing an EAR RING AND MAKE UP!!!
That’s his own hair, for Christ sakes!!!
That ain’t workin’. That’s the way you do it.
“Fuck off, I’m not doing it”
something like that isn’t it?
Punks and politics are like peas and carrots.
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PStarzynski Discruntled Rangers/NYY Fan, @PeterS_Tech
You know the more I thought about it, why did Green Day have to insert politics into their performance of American Idiot? We’re trying to get away from that for a few hours.
Vas Drimalitis, @vasdrimalitis
“Why did Green day have to insert politics into their performance of American Idiot” is a truly incredible sentence to read.
Incredible that they can just keep coming up with shit like this day after day, indefinitely. Truly astonishing
Every other argument they have is instantly demolished because of how stupid they are so they just reach into the barrel to scrape out more shit. But the problem is that they’re not just scraping the bottom, they’ve gone and dug a hole halfway to China.
