This is like a shittier unhinged version of Liam Neeson’s phone call in Taken
I too find laughing at people with serious mental illness so wholesome /s
Not everything is mental illness, some people are just dumb and smug about it.
This is though.
Impressive that you’ve diagnosed that condition from that image.
Thanks :)
These people are called Cookers where I’m from, because their brain is cooked.
Mate
In case you’ve never heard of them
I’ve even seen videos on YouTube, but my brain genuinely won’t process that they’re for real.
Like even clicking into the comments my thought was: really does anyone really think this. Idk
All rights reserved, “without prejudice”.
Are you sure about that, buddy?
“I’m a sovereign citizen your laws don’t apply to me, except when they pertain to rights that I like”
I wouldn’t mind the movement too much if they actually practiced what they preached and went and lived on some large ranch somewhere in the middle of nowhere and grew all their own food and never left.
They pretend that it’s like going back to basics hunter gatherer lifestyle, but really it’s just about not paying taxes.
I think it’s the general “mom said you can’t go over this line, what’re you gonna do, what’re you gonna do, what’re you gonna do, what’re you gonna do”.
On principle they are right, in general they’re just intolerable little brothers.
For those curious…
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1341
I don’t even understand what they are citing.
This section contemplates mail fraud and the penalties incurred for committing said fraud.
I find it incredibly entertaining that, although these laws magically do not apply to them, these people invoke them to attempt to intimidate government officials.
The sov cit folks think that laws are magic words, and if you recite them in the right order you can do anything you want.
To be fair to them, this IS effectively how law is supposed to work. Watch “Breaking the Spell” . It’s a great film.
So like… delusional Harry Potter fans.
Harry brandishes his wand in the familiar circular pattern and shouts: “HABEAS CORPUS”. He can feel the spell take effect. The judge’s eyes glaze over, and she releases Harry’s client due to lack of sufficient evidence to hold them.
“Not a U.S. citizen”
Throw this ass clown out into international waters like they’re DJ Jazzy Jeff overstaying his welcome
That’s a lot of magik incantations right there or plain old ignorant wishful thinking - I’m not sure which.
I did know a guy that tried to be a sovereign citizen. He was never the brightest wick in the candelabra and was also a huge conspiracy nut and misinformed health nut ever. Overall, he was pretty harmless and never caused anyone any problems. Just a really strange guy.
I do not know who you are and I do not understand your intent
My dude, the name of the organization and the stated intent of the letter is literally in the envelop you’re writing on top of.
It’s a shame because I agree with them in principle (I don’t feel like a UK citizen, I feel like a human) but they seem to lack awareness of reality. Yes, the government is overbearing and an unjustified power in your life, no that doesn’t mean you can pretend they don’t exist and not face consequences. I wish it were that easy
“visual storyteller” 😂
“Not a US citizen”
Okay, so GTFO if you’re renouncing your citizenship. And don’t use any public roads or services as you’re leaving…
doesn’t US charge you for giving up your citizenship too?
Yup, its an old Civil War era law for folks who tried to avoid dying in the Civil War by moving to Canada. Reasoning was, if you wanted to draft dodge you could support the war financially instead. Then during the early 2000s as folks who graduated college at the wrong time and ended up more college debt than they can ever pay off started moving abroad to escape it, they increased the fee and took other steps to make renouncing more difficult since expats were renouncing their citizenship to stop owing taxes in the US
ended up more college debt than they can ever pay off started moving abroad to escape it, they increased the fee
Short version: USA wanted slaves
to stop owing taxes in the US
I’m not a lawyer and I’m not from US, but I’m pretty sure this is not how it works.
I’m not a lawyer and I’m not from US, but I’m pretty sure this is not how it works.
Ah but it is. The US is, as far as I know, the only country who taxes its citizens who are living abroad. And yes, it is as stupid and shitty as it sounds.
No, I mean stopping owing part. If you did not pay taxes but should have while you were citizen, you are still owe taxes.
It seems US is most backwards country. Well, it could be most upside-down country, but this title is already claimed by Australia.
Perhaps I could have worded it better. I meant not accruing additional taxes to pay. But if you’re already debt dodging by changing countries, realistically what is the federal government gonna do?
Yeah it’s something like $2600
Just deport them, and since they have nowhere to go, I guess that means throw them in the ocean?
To Mexico, it would be funny so see their faces. /s
Or make a treaty with an interested nation to deport them to.
I’m guessing Russia and North Korea would be interested.Russia
No. Idiots are on the other side of bath tub formerly known as ocean.
That motherfucker must feel so powerful writing that… stuff.
I mean the only other kick he’s going to get is to the teeth by the feds, so I hope he’s getting something out of it.
The best thing about sovereign citizens is they’re the only ones not in on the joke.
And they so persistently do not understand why their BS doesn’t work.
The appeal is there. Imagine not having to pay any taxes or any of your bills. The idea practically sells itself to anyone who has no civics education.
Honestly their BS does kind of work they just seem unable to grasp that all the things they’re saying also apply to everyone else. They don’t have to aknowledge their electricity providers authority to charge them for electricity and the electric company doesn’t have to keep supplying it. Its like some kind of extreme narcisicm.
'Cept in most locales you have to maintain your home’s “habitability status” to not get it condemned, which requires having a functional electrical supply. And usually also working plumbing, heat, some manner of cooking apparatus, and a refrigerator.
“Muh Freedumb!” aside, these types of code requirements were as I understand it at least initially put into place to prevent slumlords from charging rent for an “apartment” that has access to none of the above.
Anyhow, if you really don’t want to pay electric bills it’s really not too tough to get yourself some solar panels or something. Somehow that never occurs to these people. There are counties out in the boondocks where you are permitted by law to live fully off the grid if you feel like it, so maybe they ought to move there and quit bothering everybody with their nonsense.
I think water and sewage are required but I don’t think electricity is because a property is technically habitable without power. As long as there is not a vulnerable person confirmed living at the address. I mean it all seems a bit arbitrary, but apparently those are the rules.
I think it’s mostly about making it unpleasant for squatters without violating their human rights too much. It straddles the line but not too badly.
This is another one of them there varies by state/county/city things. Where I live you must be connected to the grid. This causes problems for people who don’t want to be connected to the grid, i.e. they have more than enough solar or windmill and battery capacity to not require it from a functional standpoint. But the county forbids you from not paying the local electricity monopoly their monthly bribe.
This is relatively recent – as of the last 4 or 5 years or so. The power company now helpfully charges a “connection fee” if you use 0 kWh, which started happening exactly at the same time the law was passed to make it illegal not to be connected to them. I can’t help but conclude that these two facts are not coincidental.
My previous area was like that, and that was why I didn’t bother getting a battery system for my solar. And the connection fee went up, and up, and up.
i’M tRaVeLlInG!
“I DO NOT HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL TREATY WITH YOU” is about to be my go to line to get out of uncomfortable situations.
I love this assertion by them. Because it’s them saying they are an independent nation. But they are living on or within the US’s declared borders and do not have a treaty as the American Indians do. Therefore they’d qualify as invaders or secessionist and the US military/immigration authorities should have jurisdiction to prosecute them. Afterall, this Sovereign Citizen is currently abroad in another country.
You have to say it ALL CAPS and in RED INK. LoL
I still like, “YOU’RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR”
“THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE”
My God what have I done
A lovely chinese dinner, you say?
Succulent.
True. True.
I’ll leave it up to own my shame.
No worries, but I just could not let it lie there! ;)
“THAT’S MY PURSE”
“I DON’T KNOW YOU”
“I think you will find that I do not have testicles.”
“SHE BLUFFING! FINISH HER!”
It’s a pretty weird claim. They think they are their own country? Okay then… Do they realize that foreign countries can be taken to war against their wishes? I hope so, because that’s probably going to happen to a lot of these people.
Telling my boss this next time I’m voluntold to fix another failing project.
