People keep talking about “Federalizing the National Guard” and now you’ve got other States pledging their NG to Texas in defiance of the Supreme Court (see image).

So is this what CW2 looks like?

P.S. I’m a Brit

  • Guy Ingonito
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    The Governors are unserious idiots playing with fire hoping they won’t get burned by a rando of their idiot base taking it too far.

    The real risk for Americans remains a situation like The Troubles, not armed conflict between states and the federal government.

    • @[email protected]
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      More people need to track to your point about The Troubles. It’s where I’d think things progress.

  • @[email protected]
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    Ain’t no way this is actually going to happen, any attempt at succession will be put down by the much larger national military. There will be no civil war.

      • @[email protected]
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        If they vote on it Brexit style it will be one thing. If 51% of the population shows up and votes 51% to leave we can consider it. Wait until that happens.

      • @[email protected]
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        72 years ago

        It’s violating the will of the people. They’re removing people from their country without consent or notice; no referendum nor opportunity to leave.

    • Chris
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      Eh there won’t be an organized civil war of large standing armies, but I can definitely see the Redneck militias doing some damage. If it dragged on long enough they could theoretically get organized somehow.
      I really doubt that the politicians in the GOP states want a Civil war though, it is gonna be hard to extract wealth from the poor if the whole system explodes.

      • @[email protected]
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        i also notice nobody mentions the possibility that cartels could try to take advantage of any significant unrest in some states. i doubt states or feds want that mess.

  • @[email protected]
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    242 years ago

    The US is the next empire to fall. I am a US citizen and i am taking steps to GTFO if needed. I have an e-residency and ID card from another nation and am working up to the investment for full citizenship.

    • @[email protected]
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      I mean, the issue is that most of the rest of the so called free World (and in my opinion correctly so), especially Europe, depends on the US for defence, specially weapon production. Despite France constantly whining about it, insisting on strategic autonomy, as far as I am aware, when it comes to ammo production and air power, we very much depend on the US for production and designs (the design when it comes to aircraft)

      • @[email protected]
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        If the American empire falls, it’s not going to reduce weapons production or arms sales. Decline into fascism requires more guns and bullets, as they get turned against domestic targets, while guns and oil are among the US’s best sources of external currency.

      • @[email protected]
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        The United States military should scale way back, but the European military would have to increase because of what you mentioned with designs for specialty weapons.

        • @[email protected]
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          We have reasonable designs for almost all weapon categories, except maybe for airplanes, with the latest being the Eurofighter which is by now a bit dated. Regarding Tanks, the German Leopard is as far as I am aware a fine piece of engineering as well as the belgian FN-SCAR. However we lack the ammo capabilities (especially when it comes to artillery shells) to ever have hope of winning a protracted war (or simply keeping Ukraine alive). (also, quick side note, France also spends a great deal of money maintaining their own nuclear arsenal and weapons delivery system, which kinda makes the UK seem a bit puny with their dependence of the US for weapon delivery)

    • @[email protected]
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      72 years ago

      Please explain the e-residency and id card thing. I’m in the red area and really really don’t want to be.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        LordThunder: “Fuck, I’m surrounded by Republicans! Where are you going? I’ll come with!”

        Shortwavesurfer: 😬

        • @[email protected]
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          Just FYI, Estonia is a real country and also viable.

          But I think I’d much rather stay on the 5th column.

        • @[email protected]
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          A country run on a blockchain. Fucking yikes. I think a “ship of fools” is putting it generously.

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            This reminds me of Auroville, a village in India that’s supposed to be an Utopia of socialism and new humanist living. But when you look beyond the marketing and the veneer of spirituality, it’s just a bunch of people living in poverty and giving their money to a group of leeches.

  • @[email protected]
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    22 years ago

    I mean, all a politician has to do is say “I will oppose Bidens open border policy” and they’ll win an election.

    All Biden has to do is not allow an open border with Mexico, and he might have a chance of getting re-elected.

  • iquanyin
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    102 years ago

    “take over texas” as if the federal govt wasn’t already in control of the states. the states pay federal taxes, and they receive various federal benefits. texas isn’t some separate nation. it’s just one of the regular 50 states.

  • @[email protected]
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    If you look at history it takes more than this. I doubt people would go to war over illegal immigrants.