No offense or judgement meant to anyone if that’s your thing (to each their own). That’s just how I see pretty much all professional sports - the super bowl is just the poster child for it.
Not really an unpopular opinion is it…
Heh, we’ll see, I guess. I fully expected a flurry of downvotes right out of the gate, but I’m also thinking the timing may be skewing the results a bit.
It’s just funny because this was up yesterday from in here
Trust me, this is not that. lol. I honest to gods thought I was going to get ripped a new one for daring to say anything bad about the Superbowl.
Around here? Doubtful.
Fair point. That’s on me. I was treating it as “General Unpopular Opinion” and not “Unpopular Opinion on Lemmy”. I agree there is a difference. lol
Yeah, even my friends who were really into sports barely watch any anymore, the superbowl generally being the first they stopped watching. Number one complaint? It’s more ads than game now.
See to me and my family the ads are one of the best part, not because we want to buy any of the crap or support the companies, but some of the ads are legitimately funny, and often some new movie or show trailer is shown as well which interests us if it’s something appealing.
i definitely know which insurance company not to patronize now.
So says everyone who watches the superbowl but isn’t big into football. See also the half-time show watchers. The people I am talking about are there for the sport.
Yeah I’m not big interested football, I only played until college, play fantasy football every season for almost two decades, once had a blog about my team, but sure I’m not that big into football at all. /s
I don’t understand why you have to make assumptions about me based on your personal biases? Especially when you’re wrong. Also not sure why people can’t just enjoy non-football things while watching football.
Not liking the commercials or the halftime show doesn’t make you more of a fan than somebody else, it just makes you sound like an elitist douche buzzkill, let people like things without being a prick about it.
I haven’t watched a single superbowl, so I don’t care about whatever elitism you read into that. I also have never met a single person who feels that the commercials are an important part of the entertainment who are really into football. First time for everything. Assuming you didn’t just make up shit to back an argument, you decided to have with someone about their elitism, around a subject they don’t care enough about to have elitist, or gatekeeping, sentiments about.
Maybe what I said came off in a different tone to you than it did for me.
I mean you’re judging me based on finding a little bit of entertainment from commercials during a game, how else am I supposed to take it? Also don’t turn this around on me, you’re being the judgemental prick here about something dumb AF.
Also a pretty weird stance to take considering how you’re saying you’re not a fan, like who are you to judge my fandom especially when apparently you are not a fan?
Again, this all goes back to how about not being a judgemental prick and letting people enjoy what they enjoy?
Wasn’t a judgemental statement as far as I am concerned. Unless you think someone assuming you don’t prioritize the sport of the game you are watching because of your statement on the commercials is somehow a judgement on your character. I was bringing up that the people I know who stopped are there for the football, not the extras.
I’ve noticed over the last few years of watching football that they don’t even care about missing actual action anymore. It used to be “Here’s something cool that happened, let’s take a break”.
Now it’s “Welcome back from the break, here’s what happened while you were consuming ads, and it’s time for another break”
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Yes, this and the crazy stupid region, provider, service restriction nonsense, the, often large, mark-ups for sports packages, and the fact that cable was the only place you could get most games, for so long, when so few of the people my age even had cable anymore.
I’ve been saying this for over 20 years now, and it’s only gotten worse. The money wasted on one superb owl could fix homelessness, but please, let’s keep paying exorbitant sums of money to watch men with literal brain damage move ball good.
The money wasted
The video game Red Dead Redemption 2 cost somewhere around $400 million.
Stadium cost 750 mil
And yet I’d rather see RDR2 not released than homeless on the streets
This is UnpopularOpinion, not UnpopularFacts.
It’s a pretty popular opinion on this platform
Advertisers are the best at spreading word.
It’s probably why award shows (which are also smothered with ads) get so much publicity.
Silver lining: There won’t be very many more Superbowls!!
Too many blow outs because one team lacks a defense. Guess it depends on what they use to rank a defense. Interceptions, fumbles, sacks, turn overs, safeties or safetys, ha safety’s no one gets a fucking safety, you throw the ball away, some guy has got a concussion if he gets sacked for a safety, he couldn’t tell where he was at, but I guess it’s better than a turn over on downs. But I mean what I’m trying to say is if everyone plays the game perfect then it’s just blocking, tackling, and getting in the way. You can’t guarantee you’re gonna get interceptions or swat passes or get any fumbles, you just tackle when they run or after they catch the ball. Short and steady works in madden, you play as the shittiest team and beat the returning football champions, but it’s no easy win. Like if you’re playing as the 2006 patriots vs the lions (0- 16) lions, or one of those western football teams like the raiders, they had some bad years but, it’s winnable with them against the best on all madden, you gotta be really strong and stay focused, any unopen receiver pass is an interception, but most teams punt the ball on 4th down. We play this professionally or it’s some crazy childish game, you don’t do the hail Mary till ends of half’s if necessary, but even if your gonna lose you may want to narrow the score a bit or get on the board.
Anytime they go to throw the football or shoot the basketball your supposed to throw one of your hands in the hair like you’re gonna block it and it psychs the guy out some, like whoever’s about one on one or double teaming him. I never seen a guy make shot if I put my hand in the hair, no kidding, I never missed one, fade away!!.
So this year’s Super Bowl Chiefs - Lions, or maybe Bills. The bills will throw it if you let them in there. God damn does New York love losing championship games, either that or they gotta win with a perfect score.
Fuckin Bills, you pricks, if I wasn’t involved with Buffalo, we’d spank your Amazonian asses, that’s how you show your guests you give them a blizzard football game.
Yeah Amazon is based in Buffalo chase that bank boo ya. Someone asked what that place was and they took off north west expanding everything before the gates closed again, literally.
So I gotta own the lions, giants, patriots and the bills, and then they find out I’m some old mfl commissioner. Well that’s gonna look like fraud. Well is it fraud or was it simulations. Come on Sean Seidel tell us. You wanted me to buy the Chargers because I liked San Diego but if I’m in San Diego then so is Dale Ross, so it’s different down here when we’re in San Diego, someone has to pay all these people a settlement who moved there.
But the god damn chiefs, they rape everyone, I don’t know if we’d let the lions play chiefs, we got a good thing going here with pizzas and watching NFL football. The chiefs must all have their own tribe they lead. Different parts of the season are different. After thanksgiving everything changes and then Christmas football games.
We use to want two NFL teams in the same area so like you could get into one arena or play for it where you have to win to get into the league, but you may need two more teams or even a whole division. You start bitchin and complaining about stuff and no one says it but like they’d wanna see you try,
It gives the area a certain buzz, or it’s all this traffic going east and west, north and south, football and weed doing this. With baked cookies, icing and candy.
I know it sucks Ren ever since Joe Louis arena flooded it’s been all down hill for us, no one wanted to invest millions of dollars into some area with big muscular teenagers talking about dropping out of school and not playing no prosports. What do you mean Ren your doing more steroids than Arnold Swarzennegger, wait a minute you guys are wrestlers.
We can’t paint the metal and Jerry rig it, we’ll get sued if something happens and you’re supposed to pump oxygen up top there for the people watching and suck all the co2 and methane out the ceiling.
Stadiums become a nest for breeding bacteria and viruses. Joe Louis arena was somewhat solid tungsten. And that’s why no one liked it or wanted it used that currently played or watched hockey. The palace was sanitized or it was too dirty to operate.
I didn’t want 4 stadiums in the same square mile, an opera theater, a boardwalk riverfront, the pistons left auburn hills, man that palace was something else, you get a certain buzz in there. They play basketball and hockey in the same place. We probably should watch basketball and some hoops but it became some getting high thing. We don’t lie about the disease thing as people that’s why we just kept getting high till they stop talking like a bunch of looneys. We smoked crack because you all were saying stuff that usually crack heads would say, so where is the rock that you were smokin man.
Then why didn’t you guys bring it up, that I commit fraud by posting flyers in public and then it not going on, well I thought we were all getting arrested because fighting is illegal and we’re doing this in public, and it’s some kind of dictatorship, we did call that the Detroit police department once before Mexico or whoever this guy is with big bales and last name not Guzman moved in back in 04. With wrestling it was a bit harder to organize local wrestling, with the nfl you just set up a table in a field or on a hill somewhere and you do NFL stuff. That’s how the league was pre 2009. After that it became more like madden till 2014.
No shit, Sherlock. Got any more cuttingly insightful bits of wisdom to share? Compasses point north for the most part, perhaps?
Dear sir or madam:
Some crackpot has written me an abusive message, and it seems they used your account to send it. I’m replying to you as a courtesy in case you wish to take action against this lunatic.
Cheers.
I can’t help but notice I have witnessed the most refined troll destruction of all time!
Congratulations, sir, for I’m honestly impressed with your skills.
For the sake of clarity, I am not sarcastic, and I am not the person you respond to.
Happy to have met you,
Allero
Ha, thanks. I so wish I could take credit for it, but it’s adapted from something Gyles Brandreth once said. It was, supposedly, his standard response to abusive letters he would receive while he was an MP.
Imagine that. What else haven’t you thought of yourself recently?
In addendum to my previous correspondence, I would advise changing your Lemmy password and perhaps even running an antivirus scan; some lunatic seems to be running amok under your credentials.
I bet you think you’re really clever.
He is.
I just think the sport is really neat.
The ads are pretty overkill even compared to what I see here in Europe during the soccer world cup, and yeah athletes are paid ridiculous amounts, but at the end of the day it’s a lot of fun to watch, at least for me. It’s a battle of both wits and raw athleticism between people pushing the limits of what the human body can do. That’s super cool, and all the story lines that arise or crumble from the competition are immensely entertaining to follow.
When you get down to it capitalism tarnishes everything anyway, a lot of entertainment media is very much just vehicles to sell even more shit, but they can still be enjoyable in and of themselves.
How do they do ads during the world cup when the game doesn’t stop?
American football continuously stops allowing for seemingly infinite advertisements.
They put ads all over the stadium, ads on the score bug on TV, the commentators will sneak in product placement during the game, the jerseys themselves have ads on them. They find ways.
That’s definitely part of it yeah, soccer is more continuous, so they can’t cram ads in like they can with football. There’s still a lot of it, but it’s not as crazy. American football is openly about ads as much as it is about the sport, it’s pretty nuts.
I always joked I might be able to get into [insert sport here] if I could buy it on BluRay and watch it 6 months later and not have to sit through the ads and breaks. lol
I think there’s some NFL pass things that allow you to do that, actually, where you can watch everything whenever. A lot of them aren’t accessible from Europe sadly, but if you’re American there’s plenty of options for you.
There’s also sports anime lol
That’s how I got introduced to American football, watching and reading Eyeshield 21, and it got me interested in seeing the real thing. Sports anime are pretty cool since they present you with a curated narrative with lots of ups and downs, and they’re usually a lot harder to predict than traditional shounens, since losing doesn’t doom the universe or something. They’re genuinely a nice entry point to sports in my opinion, at least if you enjoy anime already.The NFL plus subscription lets you access either the entire broadcast without commercials, an alternate version that’s cut from snap to tackle (and is available pretty quick at least in the playoffs; I watched some late games in the morning before work), or the coaches film (that’s slightly slower).
Overseas it’s different, but last I was aware it was better and included live feeds in addition to everything else.
I don’t mind people not liking sports the same way I’m happy if someone enjoys Post Malone music or Woody Allen movies even though they’re terrible to me. I do get annoyed with people who make not liking sports a huge part of their personality though. Those who hear a conversation between others who are interested in a game and just have roll their eyes and make a comment involving the word, “sports ball”.
How is it any different that grown men with obligations standing around at work, not working, regurgitating stats they heard on Sports Center that morning and arguing over which guy they like on the team, as if they have any stake whatsoever in either team?
Some people like things, some people don’t. It’s just petty and frankly childish to have that “my team can beat your team” mentality because let’s face it, it’s just a grown up version of “my daddy can beat up your daddy.”
I’ll discuss the latest Rick and Morty with my friends. At least sports are “real”. Who won was actually played by real people that affects their lives (the players are rich but they gain fame and a cash bonus for winning).
Meanwhile Rick Sanchez finding the alternate Rick who killed his wife was scripted to be entertaining.
some like things, some don’t
The replies about the stats goes so well with my thought on this.
If I was to talk about some other topic as much as people talk about sports ball stuff, I’d get crap for it.
If I don’t want to talk about sports ball crap, I get crap for it.
It’s a weird double standard sometimes. Maybe because sports are so prevalent and common?
It’s because in this country, toxic masculinity dictates that the only acceptable way to relate to another guy is by talking about sports. Imagine having such a fragile ego that the only way you know how to talk to another man is to take turns reciting what you heard on ESPN. Otherwise you might get called gay, which to them is some kind of insult to their masculinity.
Meanwhile, they’re getting an attitude with each other about a game where the guys pat each other on the ass after a good play.
guys pat each other on the ass after a good play
But it’s such a masculine pat, not even a pat, a hit, a slap! A hard, masculine manly slap.
There’s a Key and Peele skip coming to mind…
Found it. Slap-Ass](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-uIwpo0dCU)
Edit, and yes, I agree to an extent. I don’t think previous generations of men were taught healthy ideas about emotions, feeling, etc. Anger is generally accepted, sadness, hurt, etc are not. They are just translated to anger to be accepted. I think the general problem is starting to be acknowledged. Maybe not fixed, but there’s a start maybe.
How would you constructively mentor someone who you think was rased that way? Assuming you had the kind of relationship that allowed it?
I’ve had these kind of talks with people before. You ever made progress with giving someone more options?
I’ve pointed out to people before that being super into sports statistics is a socially acceptable form of an autism style hyper fixation, and it angers everyone.
Gym fixation too, have a pet theory on that
You’re not wrong.
OMG you are totally right!!!
Yup, it’s Bread and Circuses all over again.
also something to note: they intentionally edge the fans constantly - the game’s only an hour long. but we gotta pause play for commercials every few fucking moments, over and over again. punctuate edging with violent conflict - add in the lore/fanfic/tradition/dream job aspects - oh yeah, it keeps their attention.
all to watch grown men run around in spandex playing a children’s game for millions of dollars, giving each other crippling brain and body injuries that will follow them into their graves.
Clueless European here: is Superbowl something like Champions League?
It’s basically a grand final for the US’s American Football Season. I “think” teams in one league play each other whilst teams in the other league do the same. The respective top team from each league play each other in a super final.
It’s like the final of champions league
Next you’re gonna tell me that the Marvel movies are nothing but watching rich people pretend to be fighting each other while poorer people pay to go watch. And WWE wrestling is…well actually the same description.
They are rich because we pay (with money or ads) to watch them. We pay because they entertain us.
Yeah yeah it is all a fake conflict between millionaires orchestrated by billionaires. I still enjoy the MCU.
You are mistaken. It’s pseudo-gladiator cosplay voyeurism and there’s a lot of freaks that like to watch it so it’s legal.
It’s true.
At some point, though, you just let it go. It’s just easier that way. Watch it, don’t, like it, don’t, none of that changes what it is. And, presuming CTEs still wipe out 90% of players in the future, it won’t be around forever.
watching rich people fight over a ball
Put them in an enclosed space and let the poors sit above and laugh at them, and you might have won over the Lemmings as fans!
