Get in here losers
We’re dunking on everything
“data driven understanding” basically means "I forcefed oatmeal into a VCR "
End result is slop either way
tankies appear to be deeply invested in state-driven political events, often at the expense of grassroots societal issues.
In an article published on a “think tank” with ties to the State Department and which broadcasts imperialist propaganda against enemy states.
another MAGA maggot guns down 20 migrants at the border after downloading “great replacement theory” directly into his brain for 8 years straight, directly from mainstream news networks: i sleep
someone posts pig poop balls: REAL SHIT
left-wing extremism remains a relatively unexplored domain
Oh, no! Someone should get on this.
tankies are on the periphery of the far-left
I prefer to think of it as being on the cutting-edge.
When dumbass stemlords say sociology isnt a science (it is) this is what they’re thinking of
Their positioning, further to the left than subreddits like r/communism, r/socialism, and r/Anarchism
I like how they use informedtankie as their first example of a tankie space, then act like /r/communism and /r/socialism are somehow less so? All three literally share moderators, and have shared many former moderators who are now spread across hundreds of projects on the site.
It’s so fucking badly researched. They know literally nothing about socialists or the fact that among marxists there’s very little issue with “tankies”. There is no separation or division. They seem to think that there is.
They’d have a fit if they realised Corbyn upholds AES, advertises the Black Panthers, or Dianne Abbot defends Mao on national tv, or John Mcdonnel waving around Mao’s little red book in parliament. Like wtf do these people not know what marxists are? It’s like they have literally never encountered actual socialists before and really only have a particularly vague understanding of any of this shit. I can’t think of a single marxist figure in the mainstream (for a marxist) that wouldn’t fit their definitions of “tankie” if they ever actually inquired as to what any given marxist believes. The only real difference between any of us is our position on China diverging between ML, Trot and Maoists, which isn’t really that divisive at all.
The only group that anyone really has any beef with are the gonzaloites.
Data science is easy when you can just ignore relevant data that disagrees with your predetermined result.
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they have literally never encountered actual socialists before and really only have a particularly vague understanding of any of this shit
This was me until I was like 25 years old - though in my defense I wasn’t writing news articles about them.
Well the methodology and the superficial character of the paper indicates this is a bachelor’s thesis at most. Fun to dunk on but otherwise entirely irrelevant no?
if only academic rigor and methodology were major determinants for what becomes relevant, and things weren’t signal boosted solely for their political ramifications in an existing superstructure
oh yeah, extremist and dangerous rhetoric from the left! They’re against expanding the war in ukraine that might kill us all! They disagree with the butchery in Palestine! oh so dangerous, especially since they have ZERO power in existing governance in ANY western country.
remember to call you congressman and demand the blood of the world’s underclass!
Are liberals so bored they start assigning numerical values to how sad they feel about forum posts? Or is this the liberal tendency to attempt neutrality or sound unbiased? “Sweetie, your post calling me a “Zionist bootlicker” scores really high on Toxicity and Personal_Threat. If you’re not careful I might have to increase your Antisemitism ranking.”
Can’t liberals actually respond to leftists without pretending we’re a sociological pathogen to be dissected and monitored
Wonder why they couldn’t get their paper published in an actual journal
“Frequently target muslims and jews in their posts” (another unfounded assertion from the data guys)
If you can’t differentiate a right wing criticism of Israel from a left wing one your data isn’t worth the bits and bytes used to make it. If you think we criticize isntreal more than 4chan you’re out of your goddamn mind
I don’t call myself a tankie, I don’t call myself anything other than leftist/socialist…but I’ve seriously never seen any of that here or on the left wing subreddits. I wish they would show the data on the Antisemitic or Islamophobic posts in these tankie spaces. They have the charts and graphs for every other less egregious claim.
I haven’t looked at their methodology but I’m gonna guess that expressing doubt over a genocide in Xinjiang qualifies as Islamophobic, and anti-Zionism qualifies as antisemitic. I have no idea. One time I got called antisemitic on Twitter in 2020 because I said Chabad people in NYC should probably stop having those weddings where 500 people show up because there’s a pandemic and no one at those things wears a mask.
Is this the one where this site alone skewed the results?
This article’s research is so dated it appears to be from right around GenZedong’s quarantine, and the researchers did superficial research, saw a couple links to the Grad in GZD and that was the only lemmyverse site they visited, as an afterthought.
I remember learning about sociologists that would live with a community for years before writing their research about it
I work at Langley for the FBI. I’ve been on hexchat for 3 years and I’ve only sent agents to 7 or 8 leftists to have them injected with nanobots and bad takes for posting too good. The lack of patience and integration is disgusting
This idea is strengthened by reports of r/GenZedong (a tankie subreddit) showing aggression towards Uyghurs online.
Oh gee, that sounds awful! I wonder what that was about?
“As an American, I am very proud of working for the US government in Guantanamo…”
Oh my god, how little self-awareness can a person have? Accusing China of having secret concentration camps while proudly declaring employment at a known, verified torture facility.
I stg every time I check the receipts on “far-left hate speech” it’s in response to like, “Hi, my name is Nazi McFedstein and I love torturing minorities.” How hard is it to make a wrecker account in a leftist space and then cite your own account saying something fucked up? They just don’t even care because they know their audience won’t follow the links because it fits their confirmation bias.
lol I remember right after we federated there were tons of people complaining about getting banned from here. They’d complain about dog piling, about how they’re getting harassed, how they were just talking normally and didn’t do anything wrong and were suddenly banned. And you’d look at the modlog and it was always something transphobic or racist they said, then reiterated multiple times
god i hated that time but also loved it. these
were incensed at being banned for ‘doing nothing’Oh yeah they’d post a meme with no context and get thousands of upvotes and then you check the modlog and it’s
Rushan Abbas debacle is probably the only time mainstream reddit had a good reaction, IMO certainly because it was so cartoonish and incompetent to a level that(at that time) it was impossible to defend. These days the reaction would be completely different, pretty much blue MAGA would be like “oh yeah so what they’re also actualy literaly a fed agent? Don’t you know that is required training for understanding how to use and spread Western Values?”
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lol the only way that they’d get away with this is if liberals try to convince everyone that class discrimination against the rich is bigotry on the level of racism or sexism. I guess they’ve already tried this. Hexbear was created after reddit banned violent rhetoric against slave owners.
They’d have to set up a framework where wanting a violent revolution against the capitalists is extremist, but calmly rationally talking about the need to evict poor people from their homes isn’t extremist.
They’d have to set up a framework where wanting a violent revolution against the capitalists is extremist, but calmly rationally talking about the need to evict poor people from their homes isn’t extremist.
They already have this part down
“Facts don’t care about your feelings.”
“All of my feelings are now facts.”
