I wish but seriously the dumbest shit ever. China is not spying on your oafish american ass they literally could care less.
I support the Zoomerian Jihad
is that a motherfucking Dune reference?
lmao douyin should do some reverse 蛮夷入关 cyberjudo shit and roll out the red carpet for all tiktok refugees
The cold war is back baby!
Idk about the ban fully going through by election time, if you so, GenA and GenZ I have faith in you. Seriously though, it’ll probably get sold to a shell company or delayed in court until right after the election or something similar.
had to have high high hopes for a minute
Comrade Uncommitted gonna clean sweep in November
(2018 Joe Biden)Former Vice President Joe Biden pushed back this week on millennials who say they have it tough, saying he does not sympathize with them.
“The younger generation now tells me how tough things are. Give me a break. No, no, I have no empathy for it. Give me a break,” Biden, 75, told The Los Angeles Times earlier this week.
“Because here’s the deal guys, we decided we were gonna change the world. And we did. We did. We finished the civil rights movement in the first stage. The women’s movement came to be,” he continued.
Then he became the President and Roe v Wade was overturned and wants to ban a social media platform mostly used by people younger then 40.
Typical lib belief that the civil rights movement and women’s rights were things that happened and we can move on now, look, we even have MLK Day and International Woman’s Day, what more do you want?
I cannot believe that they drink their own Kool Aid though
“The past is history and we don’t have to think about it anymore, Jack! Move on!”
Which is a weird position to take because he was vice president to the man who dragged the future out into the street and shot it.
We finished the civil rights movement in the first stage
Wow, it only took until 60 years ago (living fucking memory for large swathes of the US) to finally acknowledge black people were human, congrats America
“we” finished the civil rights movement?
Joe you were chumming it up with KKK members at their funerals and passing racist “harsh on crime” laws. WTF are you talking about “we”? You were on the wrong side of the conflict.
The dems woke up and were like “The active hand in genocide isn’t enough. We got to alienate even more young people.”
Dems should ban kids from calling me cheugy
or when 14 year olds hear anyone say they’re over 17 and say “damn unc” to call them old 💀
Dems should ban kids from calling me cheugy
This isn’t as far away as you think and we’re pretty much there in the UK and Germany where "Somebody called me an asshole on facebook after I announced the project start for “Turning the local skate park into a snake pit in which to throw all unruly children” has somehow become a national emergency
ass they literally could care less.
American detected
FYI you can also use a seismograph
next you’ll be telling us the delicious sandwiches made personally by the japing pale redhead of McDonalds are not Gaelic gastronomie and that the Burger King is not a true royal!
Burger King implies the existence of Burger Robespierre.
i like to imagine the meat at Le Burger King is ground aristocrat. <<ah hon hon hon, les cochon sucree>>
Le Prion Flambroulè
.> << ah ha ha ha the(s) sweet pig…
Burger Prince Andrew is proof that we should abolish the Burger monarchy.
Burger Robespierre
Oh, the coming revolution! The glories that await us.
using “literally” really puts this one on a new level.
you’re not wrong. also, when someone whiffs a “literally”, my brain replays a scene from this clip which starts around 1:30, which is kind of pleasant memory for me. simpler days, when such contrivances were edgy, genre-defying absurdist sketches and not accurate portrayals of popular media products.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
It’s not about spying it’s about corporate theft. US can’t stomach the next big growth platform being owned by a Chinese company. A TikTok ban is a gift to meta/google as it would basically force a fire sale of that division and nobody else would have the capital to buy it.
If they pass the ban the Chinese gov should buy it from douyin and shut it down. The salt would pour freely
Chinese government should buy it and just exclude the American market.
All the kids will get vpns in 48 hours and how much America sucks ass will be the main kind of content on tik tok.
just exclude the American market
I really want to see how that plays out lol
Nah I think the best thing for the Chinese government to do would be to direct Tik Tok to leave the US market. Put it on Huawei app store or something and watch all the zoomers learn how to sideload apps.
If Tik Tok leaves the US market it’ll still be a huge social media player in Europe and the rest of the world. That would be an American soft power nightmare - a global platform that Americans are blocked from influencing on by their own laws.
TikTok without Americans is a dream come true. I hope it gets banned for the sake of the rest of us lol
I hope that’s the case but I can see China allowing it to be bought by an American company and doing nothing about it.
That might happen, yeah. I don’t want to come off like a “trust the plan” type, but I do like the saying “Americans player checkers, Russians play chess, Chinese play Go”.
Let the Yanks smile as they yell “King me!”
not even checkers, tic-tac-toe
It’s an attempt to make TikTok better. Tic-tac-toe, a winner.
That’s more or less how it’s going. There’s still Temu and other apps that the US tries to demonize as they’re widely used by the rest of the world. I don’t doubt that China has other apps that will rival American apps. The blue jeans are no longer in the US and I don’t think China will end up like Japan in the 90’s either.
It also got banned in India where Youtube Shorts and Indian apps like JOSH filled the gap.
I also have a small pet theory about Temu and others like it and why they are entering the Western market so strongly right now: this is Chinese firms taking the lead in being the one selling treats to Westoids like me with less middle men. As they are the ones making all the things. Bezos doesn’t get a cut and it’s the same stuff they sell on Amazon or in my local supermarket.
People will follow their material interest and buy from there because it’s cheaper and easier. I hear a lot of Temu discourse in my country atm and everyone is ordering and not listening to the attemps to discredit it. Prices here are high enough, if you can get those gardening tools for 1/5th of the price you will not buy the expensive ones.
Eventually Chinese firms just sell the stuff they make straight to the consumers globally and none of the Western billionaires get a cut.
Yep and because it’s the most cravenly option it’s probably what’s going to happen. China never fails to disappoint me outside of their borders.
It sucks this is what’s probably going to happen because it’s the worse of all options.
Damn you China for actually being level headed and thinking with long term strategies instead of doing something funny in the short term.
It’s not going to happen.
Nor would its proposed forced sale be “level headed” or a good “long term strategy.” The rightful focus from leftists on the social health impact of short form apps has apparently also consequently given tunnel vision from seeing what’s really at stake in the eyes of the American state apparatus.
Yes, Bytedance’s CEO is a complete wannabe comprador who constantly stated how much he worships the West before his company got into the crosshairs, but we’ve been seeing the “Tiktok Forced Sale” skit happening for 4 years now. Trump first tried to do it before in the summer of 2020 as a last feather in his cap before the election. His attempt failed as well.
At that time, in reaction to the attack on Tiktok actually, China released a technology export law restricting the sale or transfer of sensitive algorithms. That’s what this is really about on the business side, the US wanting to steal a free lunch from China and setting a long lasting precedent through Tiktok’s forced sale so that future Chinese tech can be expropriated. This happened to France when Alstom was forcibly sold to GE back in 2015. That export law is what’s going to ultimately block this forced sale attempt. It would be better in China’s interests for Tiktok to be banned than allowed to be stolen by the US.
Additionally, what should be said is that Tiktok really is a “threat” to the US state apparatus. All the whitewashing, misdirection and partisanship over the Twitter Files evidently has successfully misdirected people from the real bombshell confirmations they showed. Companies like Twitter and Facebook have active communication channels with US state officials, where they algorithmically boost accounts and content created by the US and suppress the visibility of contrary content via email contact directives.
Tiktok USA/Global, while basically controlled by US personnel, including ex-NSA officials, at this point, is still ultimately connected to its parent company. This makes Tiktok a “perpetual outsider” and the establishment of similar censorship channels much more vulnerable to exposure, at least psychologically. The existence of Tiktok is, with no exaggeration, a massive challenge to the US state’s complete hegemonic monopoly on social media platforms in the English speaking world.
This is why the attempts to ban Tiktok are currently the predominant “China” concern and have been for the past 4 years.
GOOD post
“One of the main effects of the legislation would be to decrease the sale price,” said Matt Perault, director of the University of North Carolina’s Center on Technology Policy, which gets funding from TikTok and other tech companies. “As you approach that 180-day clock, the pressure on the company to sell or risk being banned entirely would be high, which would mean probably the acquirers could get it at a lower price.”
https://fortune.com/2024/03/13/will-tiktok-be-banned-or-acquired-walmart-oracle/
There is also probably a zionist component to this. The ADL explicitly mentioned that TikTok was dangerous because it has a lot of content that doesn’t tow the zionist line
They literally could care less
So they do care somewhat.
Serious question - what’s the dem’s electoral strategy here? I just don’t get it. What voting bloc is worth the loss of some really pissed off people - especially young people?
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I love the word “bloc”. I’m dyslexic so a part of my brain keeps telling me it’s wrong even though I know it’s not.
“We’re not Trump.”
That’s it. That’s the strategy.
The Dems probably care less about losing than they let on. Two wings of the same party and all that. Do lawmakers make less money (including corrupt money) if they’re in opposition rather than in govt?
They make more money because instead of lecturing people about why it’s unreasonable to expect them to shut down the concentration camps or not drill more oil than every country ever they get to send out fundraisers saying give them money so they can shut down the concentration camps and stop oil drilling.
IMO Biden is still the favorite they have at least 3 key points.
1- There is no left and those to the left of him are not willing to radicalize or vote Trump to make a point. To be fair the uncommitted vote narrative may prove this wrong, but Dems likely believe this is just protest/activism rather than real conviction, you can argue both ways.
2- They can still make promises that they wont keep and these promises hold a lot more value coming from Dems by default. There are lots of economic promises and concessions he can make.
3- Trump is incompetent and wont successfully attack from the left. The only issue Trump could win is foreign policy and they’re betting on libs being pro-Ukraine/pro-war again simply by saying it was the Republicans fault that Ukraine did not get enough military aid and therefore lost the war.
Trump can only attack that point from the left, tell the public about Ukrainian lives, the corruption in their government, the fact men are fleeing, the fact even Europeans are against the war etc There are lots of ways to attack the Ukraine war narrative but it is very doubtful he is competent and even ideologically capable of hitting those narratives.
Besides its not guaranteed to work anyway, the neolibs were correct to try and make the war entirely about western values. It immediately pins any opposition as being anti-western and anti-democracy and in a western world where the majority are libs by default, this is very powerful for at least 1 election cycle.
When it comes to Palestine, if Trump doesn’t propose a clear cut de-escalation and hits the same right to defend itself BS then IMO sadly liberals will vote for Biden. All Biden got to do is get a 30 day cease-fire before the election honestly.
yOuNg PeOpLe DoN’t VoTe
Remember that thing from 2016 where they were like “for every voter we lose we pick up two in the suburbs” and then ate shit and lost? They’re trying it again.
The dems electoral strategy is to lose, “concede defeat with dignity” and then get to fund raise offf of pretending they wouldn’t be doing the exact same thing as republicans if they were in power.
Losing elections is dems preferred state of being, they get to claim the moral high ground and insist they’re just powerless to do the good things people want and fundraise by promising to do those good things if you give them enough money. Again.
They don’t care because they will mostly still remain salaried politicians whether or not they form a majority.
Zoomers getting real close to their Battleship Potemkin moment.
it irks me that every online discussion I’ve seen on this forced expropriation does not mention Oracle at all. The whole charade is predicated on it being Chinese owned and run but it isn’t.
That would be funny if Tiktok ends up being compliant with the law they pass, and any ISP that does try to ban it gets sued because of that, and the court rules that yes, it’s compliant with the law. And Congress keeps trying to ban it but they’re too geriatric and tech illiterate to actually get the right wording to ban it.
Eh I wouldn’t count on it. Even if they somehow fuck it up that badly, they tend to follow the spirit of the law when it’s something they want but they didn’t account for, or letter of the law when they’re just being ghouls. Vibes based law enforcement.
What’s up with Oracle?
TikTok is mandated to pay Billions to Oracle to ‘audit’ their code. TikTok must comply with any changes Oracle orders. For every change Oracle mandates, Oracle gets paid additional commissions.
When did this mandate come around? It’s a USgov mandate right
Yes, they are required by regulators in order to operate in the US. It happened during the Trump years when he was pushing to ban TikTok. Larry Page is a huge Trump guy.
To add to the other reply: as much as we call random things CIA, Oracle is literally a CIA project.
The closest thing we have had to free speech in a while so the of course the government hates it.
