Like from what I understand you’re not allowed to touch the workers because then it becomes prostitution. So like. A bunch of boys just get together and sit down to watch some girls dancing naked? And they just kinda grin at each other and say “hey isn’t it awesome when there’s boobs?”

You can’t jerk off so they just go to get boners with their buddies? You can do that at home. You can just watch porn with the fellas or have a circlejerk.

I’ve never understood why it’s seen as a straight masculine thing to go to a place where the only thing you can do is get horny with other men.

  • Feinsteins_Ghost [he/him]
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    391 year ago

    im not saying this to be demeaning towards anyone who works in a strip joint, nor am i commenting on the reasons one would work there.

    That said, some places are topless only. Some places are full nude. Some places, like outside of city limits where places like these are regulated, the sky is the limit. Some places are full alcohol service. Some places are dry. Some are BYO. I work in a smallish city, lots of my service calls are on a particular stretch of interstate between my smallish city and the next smaller city. There is a place I pass pretty regularly along the road there that has been there since i was 10 (im 45 now for reference) that is full nude. and they provide setups for your alcohol. They refer to the women who work there as ‘models’. There is no pricing of sorts. Everything is arranged between the customer and the ‘model’. The model takes you back to their private booth/stall/whateverthefuck and what you two agree to, and the price you agree to is between you, the model, and the four walls. Because it is in the sticks out in the county, it is not regulated by any city entity.

    There are some places where sex workers strip at, and will pursue ‘side work’ if the customer meets whatver standards the sex worker has.

    There are also some places where if you look at the women improperly, youll be bounced on the spot with a lump on the side of your head for your troubles.

    I guess it all depends on business/business location/owner/workers.

    • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
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      81 year ago

      I believe sex workers have a similar business model in Japan. You’re not paying for a prostitute - rather a hot woman conveniently shows up and thinks you’re cute and want to date you. So you buy her gifts, drinks from her employers, and just when you’ve spent enough money, then the date may proceed to what the lady and you agree to.

      You never paid for sex. You simply went on an expensive date with a hot model.

      • the_itsb [she/her, comrade/them]
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        111 year ago

        The sexy naked dancing thing was very fun! The coworkers ranged from wonderful stripper godmother to malevolent girl-next-door, but the talking to guys thing was the worst because most of them were assholes.

        I quickly found out that dudes that looked outside the clientele’s white redneck norm were better to talk to, though they usually didn’t have as much money. My favorite customers were the only black man I ever saw in there and a cutie beardo in a wheelchair - 20 years later, I still remember that they both talked to me like a person instead of tits on legs.

        Focusing on trying to have enjoyable conversations with men I didn’t instinctively hate made me pretty unsuccessful. The women who can lie convincingly to monsters really clean up!

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      241 year ago

      not a very good one

      bit idea: stripper who spends the whole song trying and failing to remove her hot pants

      • the_itsb [she/her, comrade/them]
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        91 year ago

        bit idea: naive autistic stripper who doesn’t understand the rules of engagement and also has strange ideas about what’s sexy

        I think that’s where ping pong shows come from

  • D61 [any]
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    141 year ago

    Drink, be sad on the inside but look happy on the outside?

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    It’s a place where awful and socially maladjusted people go because they can’t get women that attractive to be pleasant to them in any other situation.

    Maid cafes in Japan fulfill the same purpose but without alcohol. Some offer after-hours “specials” that include erotic performance. An evolution of historic Geisha service.

    Hooters fulfills the same purpose again.

    It’s the same motivation in every version, there’s just a different presentation in style and act. They want feminine attention and they are willing to part with money to get it, typically they have fucked up views of women because of the lack of feminine attention or because of the fact they’re awful human beings. Power, patriarchy, misogyny, all wrapped up into one.

  • Spongebobsquarejuche [none/use name]
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    41 year ago

    The one time I went to a strip club. I went in with a creepy feeling. By the time I left I was completely blown away by the athleticism. Clapping and throwing money like a complete simp. They were so cool.

  • @[email protected]
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    121 year ago

    It’s the type of place you go to to talk with 99% naked women about sports.

    At least that was my only experience, I have no plans on going back.

  • StalinStan [none/use name]
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    161 year ago

    I have done some bouncing. Your bread and butter client is there for emotional not sexual gratification. For the cost of a fancy dinner like you get to experience beeing a rock star. Beautiful women talk to you, compliment you, seek out your attention. If you a monogamous cis het normal guy you get to experience the thrill of cheating in a safe controlled environment.

    Pretty girls are a plus but even boomers get tired of that fairly quickly.

    • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
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      51 year ago

      Yeah it’s interesting I’ve heard from some strippers that a lot of clients pay them for a private conversation lol.

        • ashinadash [she/her]
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          181 year ago

          Because the solution to that is to be one specific sex worker’s Saviour, “got her to quit” and “like to think i had some kind of positive effect on her life”. What if, instead of “defending capitalism” or whatever you accuse me of, I just think you attitude toward sex workers is poor? What you did does nothing about the root cause of the problem and doesn’t advance the rights of sex workers in any way, it seems like you were just focused on this one woman.

            • ashinadash [she/her]
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              141 year ago

              How the fuck is it the fault of those who have to turn to sex work for survival that they are exploited? Fuck off with that. Do all workers under capitalism simply need to “not allow themselves to be exploited”?

                • ashinadash [she/her]
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                  101 year ago

                  Look back at your reply. You said there’s no way to solve the root problem other than for sex workers not to engage. Why is this situation different in this respect from any other work under capitalism? Huge amounts of misogyny are involved, but it’s also like any other work under capitalism.

                  Also thank you for being kind, considerate and polite to me with all of this.

  • flan [they/them]
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    101 year ago

    used to do drugs and go with an ex gf. not really sure why we would go but she was into it so whatever.

      • macerated_baby_presidents [he/him]
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        361 year ago

        It’s so effective that a recent pew research discovered 68% of men under 30 are single and not interested in dating. We have finally figured out how to make men celibate, just get sexy girls to be nice to them.

        sorry are you saying that onlyfans is responsible for the state of American dating? That’s not true at all. Nobody’s dating because dating sucks now that we’ve eradicated all the third spaces and replaced them with app-based meat markets. They’re not abstaining in order to indulge in more thoroughly-commoditized horrors, that’s the thing that’s driving them away from dating in the first place.

        • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
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          It’s incredible how many people complain about OF. Like yes, there are things to complain about them, but more often than not it’s never from a materialist standpoint. It’s literally just “ALL THESE HIGH SCHOOLERS ARE BECOMING MILLIONAIRES FROM FEET PICS AND NOT WANTING TO DATE MEN OR GO TO COLLEGE.” It’s a mixture of misogyny and a belief in “meritocracy” - that somehow all these models are bajillionaires being fed grapes by simps because they’re all hot and popular

          Cam girls have existed forever but for some reason they never got the same cultural impact that only fans has. I remember being young and stumbling upon those cam sites. I scrolled all the way to the bottom and saw dozens of girls (and sometimes guys popped up) with like 0-3 views. Many were quite attractive, others were not - same with the girls who were top models featured on the site.

      • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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        361 year ago

        I hear what you’re saying, but have you considered most men have a disgusting personality and that’s why women are not nice to them?

        • dannoffs [he/him]
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          221 year ago

          I didn’t realize how low the bar was until I was on a date and she showed me what most of the messages she gets on dating apps are like.

            • dannoffs [he/him]
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              91 year ago

              The person in my story is Filipino and the blatant mix of sexism and racism in her inbox was fucking nuts. I literally got a date by being the only person who wasn’t horny or racist in the first few messages.

              • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
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                91 year ago

                I’m curious what these people’s tactics are. Like I’m sure many are genuinely deliberately hateful and want their intention is to cause harm. But then there are people who are genuinely not house trained and think saying something about a woman’s tits or how their brown skin makes them hard is acceptable, with their full face showing lol

                • dannoffs [he/him]
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                  21 year ago

                  This was like 7 years ago now but the amount of people who will just straight up say they have “yellow fever” or who thought “is it true that Asian women [insert wildly racist stereotype]?” Was a good first message blew me away.