• @[email protected]
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    Most participants in this debate are far too preoccupied with the shape or structure of the sandwich, to the point of neglecting what a sandwich is all about. It’s simple. A sandwich is when you use bread as a handheld base for prepared foods that would otherwise be too messy to eat with your fingers. A tortilla is a flat bread, ergo handheld burritos and soft tacos are sandwiches.

    “Then why isn’t pizza an open-faced sandwich?” Because pizza has a crust, not bread. When you take raw dough and bake it along with its toppings or fillings, it may be a pie or a pastry or a pizza or a casserole or some other category I don’t care to quibble over. It’s not a sandwich.

    Obviously there are many sub-categories of sandwiches. A dish isn’t necessarily excluded from being a sandwich just because it’s also another type of food.

    • Flying SquidOP
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      31 year ago

      Is a tortilla bread or is it a very floppy cracker? We may need adjudication.

      • @[email protected]
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        21 year ago

        Would a tostada then be a floppy cracker fried crisp?

        No, crackers are a type of bread. Tostadas are cracker versions of tortillas. Corn tortillas are whole grain flat breads.

        Pupusas and tamales are like his pizza example where the masa dough is cooked with its fillings. But those are both types of dumplings, which would make pizza an open-faced dumpling 🤔

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        Crackers are crisp and brittle by definition. “Floppy Cracker” is an oxymoron (and potentially a good name for a garage band?).

    • DNEAVES
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      41 year ago

      I say there are four categories:

      • “standalones”: anything that is only described as itself. Separation just results in smaller versions of itself.
      • sandwiches: organized or layered arrangements of foods. Can typically be separated into it’s composing parts.
      • salads: tossed or jumbled arrangements of foods. Could be separated into its parts, albeit cumbersome.
      • sauces: perfectly combined or blended arrangements of foods. Can no longer be separated into its composing parts, but differs from a standalone because it was still composed of other foods, and can still be identified or described as all of the parts.
    • @[email protected]
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      11 year ago

      This falls into a common trap. Because we cannot succinctly define a salad in one sentence we decide that it cannot be defined at all. This argument effectively reducto ad absurdums itself by coming to the conclusion that all foods are salad.

      If we start from a position where we discount nothing from being a salad, and we have only salads (and soup, seemingly) to base our analysis on, how can we ever identify the boundaries of salad? The whole argument is based on the flawed premise that anything could be a salad.

      I realise that I am thinking too hard about this.

    • @[email protected]
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      41 year ago

      That’s bad taxonomy, because then what’s a taco salad? It’s an untossed taco salad salad. But we still don’t know what taco means. So it’s becomes an untossed untossed taco salad salad salad. Which becomes an untossed untossed untossed taco salad salad salad salad. We never learn what a taco actually is.

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    Aside from the discussion about whether the taco or burrito constitutes a sandwich, I think the judge made the correct ruling. The retail agreement says no “traditional fast food” can set up shop in that mall, and specifically cites drive thrus and outdoor seating as the reasons.

    The strip mall owners probably don’t want businesses taking over common sidewalks or creating more traffic than the shared parking lot can handle. So long as they don’t have those, I don’t see any reason a Mexican food place can’t fit entirely into the leased space.

    E: also based on their website this place looks bangin

  • @[email protected]
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    1091 year ago

    Things like this seem silly but there’s likely laws or protection that use sandwiches in their wording.

    Defining things you want them to apply to as sandwiches is easier than changing the law.

    • Flying SquidOP
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      71 year ago

      Legally, at least two of those are sandwiches in the state of Indiana.

      • @[email protected]
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        51 year ago

        the creator of the GIF format says it’s pronounced like “Jiff” like the peanut butter, but he’s still wrong

        • @[email protected]
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          11 year ago

          If one is the other, than what’s on which side of the equation doesn’t really matter. They’re still the same thing.
          So sure a calzone is also a burrito. No difference really.

      • FuglyDuck
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        61 year ago

        Hotdogs are tacos.

        hard disagree. hotdogs are made with leavened bread, tortillas are a flatbread.

        hotdogs are an open-faced sandwich.

          • FuglyDuck
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            11 year ago

            The top is still open, the bun is split on the bottom.

          • @[email protected]
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            21 year ago

            It works. my grandpa’s quirky sandwich! Make a kosher hot dog, slice lengthwise, put on a slice of bread, pile high garlic salt and hot sauce, then the second slice. I do think it started off with him trying to make something no one would eat, but my brothers and I jumped on it, especially when it horrified the Moms. He always acted like a little kid with how happy it made him: us kids (even if he was 70+) vs the moms!

            • @[email protected]
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              31 year ago

              Oh I’ve done something similar! Get some curry ketchup on there and you’ve got a currywurst sandwich.

              That’s a sandwich though, the above comment said open face, so it’s just a whole hotdog teetering on a cut open half of a hot dog bun.

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          My local grocery carries hot dog shaped pita bread - that’s the only way we eat hot dogs now, fill em up with onions, chili, relish and mustard!

          A hot dog is a gyro

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          Look up Oki Dog. Definitely a burrito. Then ponder how badly you want one and how direly you’ll regret it should you ever eat one.

          The most famous Oki creation was–is–the eponymous Oki Dog, a couple of hot dogs wrapped in a tortilla with chili, pickles, mustard, a slice of fried pastrami and a torrent of goopy American cheese–a cross-cultural burrito that’s pretty hard to stomach unless you’ve got the tum of a 16-year-old, but strangely delicious nonetheless. - Jonathan Gold

          • FuglyDuck
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            31 year ago

            that’s neither a sandwhich nor a burrito. but an abomination.

            (Well, okay. technically it’s a burrito with a weiner in it. but it’s not a hotdog.)(Still an abomination)

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                I’ll try almost any thing once. (There are limits. Fried grubs were like spicy/savory gummy bears. Baby octopus in red curry was amazing. “Live” baby squid was… interesting. Aborted duck egg is a hard nope.)

                I suspect it has a lot to do with what else goes in it.

  • @[email protected]
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    201 year ago

    I TOLD YOU! I TOLD YOU ALL!!! EVERYONE LAUGHED WHEN I SAID A HOT DOG ON A BUN IS A SANDWICH WELL WHO’S LAUGHING NOW??

    • @[email protected]
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      71 year ago

      I would have argued with you before today, because a hot dog is clearly a taco. But I guess if tacos are sandwiches, then by the transitive property, it is also a sandwich.

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    Does the Indiana judge know what a Torta is? Does he not realize that there’s… actual sandwiches (there’s like 7-8 different sandwiches). Tacos and burritos are NOT sandwiches.

    I’m Latino, not of Mexican origin. However, sometimes I prefer their sandwich over any other dish. And I normally would buy two of them.

  • @[email protected]
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    161 year ago

    Sandwich: 🥪 (two disconnected slices of bread cut from a larger loaf 🍞)

    Wrap: 🌯 (one continuous flat bread)

    Burger: 🍔 (a halved bun, therefore it’s also Chicken Burger, not Chicken Sandwich)

    Taco (🌮) feels like belonging broadly in the wrap category being based on flat bread.

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      But tacos traditionally are more like wraps by your definition, with the exception being hard/crunchy tacos which are on what i would technically call a chip, this making crunchy tacos just portable nachos

      Additionally walking tacos are supported by a chip bag, making them neither a taco nor nachos.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 year ago

      Hamburgers are a specific style of sandwiches whose name is derived from Hamburg, Germany.

      Chicken sandwiches are not hamburgers.

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        11 year ago

        A chicken sandwich is a sandwich when the chicken meat is between two slices of bread cut from a bigger loaf. It’s a chicken burger when it’s between two halves of a bun.

        And as you said, hamburger derives from the German city of Hamburg, so Germans, not Americans, have the authority here.🤪

    • @[email protected]
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      11 year ago

      Hmm, what of rolls? Ciabatta, Kaiser rolls? Even croissants? By this definition it seems they’d be burgers, since rolls are cut in half. But then my roast beef sandwich is a lying, cold, sad burger

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        You have weird Ciabattas if you think that Ciabatta is a kind of bun and not a bigger loaf. Croissants are pastry. And yes, burgers made with Kaiser rolls are totally burgers:

        https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7a/a3/1c/7aa31c21b7b0f546ea7ebe4ac0a59b12.jpg

    • @[email protected]
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      11 year ago

      from a topological perspective, wraps and tacos are two different beasts.

      in a wrap, the bread completely surrounds (and encloses) the other ingredients, so theres a 2-dimensional hole involved (which basically means the inside is hollow).

      in a taco, no such wholes are present.

      you can also distinguish sandwiches from tacos and wraps (since sandwiches involve two pieces of bread, like you said). but unfortunately, you can’t topologically distinguish a burger from a sandwich

      • @[email protected]
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        31 year ago

        It’s worse then that. This all because people didn’t want Mexican restaurant in a strip mall what the fuck is wrong with these people?