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Indiana is fuckin stupid
He’s wrong!
Take it up with the legislature, pal.
Who does a guy need to bribe around here to get something changed?
Most participants in this debate are far too preoccupied with the shape or structure of the sandwich, to the point of neglecting what a sandwich is all about. It’s simple. A sandwich is when you use bread as a handheld base for prepared foods that would otherwise be too messy to eat with your fingers. A tortilla is a flat bread, ergo handheld burritos and soft tacos are sandwiches.
“Then why isn’t pizza an open-faced sandwich?” Because pizza has a crust, not bread. When you take raw dough and bake it along with its toppings or fillings, it may be a pie or a pastry or a pizza or a casserole or some other category I don’t care to quibble over. It’s not a sandwich.
Obviously there are many sub-categories of sandwiches. A dish isn’t necessarily excluded from being a sandwich just because it’s also another type of food.
Is a tortilla bread or is it a very floppy cracker? We may need adjudication.
Would a tostada then be a floppy cracker fried crisp?
No, crackers are a type of bread. Tostadas are cracker versions of tortillas. Corn tortillas are whole grain flat breads.
Pupusas and tamales are like his pizza example where the masa dough is cooked with its fillings. But those are both types of dumplings, which would make pizza an open-faced dumpling 🤔
Crackers are crisp and brittle by definition. “Floppy Cracker” is an oxymoron (and potentially a good name for a garage band?).
I don’t see you wearing black robes or holding a gavel.
What about a wizard hat?
I don’t know, are we judging whether or tacos belong in Griffindor or Hufflepuff?
This makes some sense as all foods are salads; sandwiches are untossed salads, tacos are untossed taco salads.
I say there are four categories:
- “standalones”: anything that is only described as itself. Separation just results in smaller versions of itself.
- sandwiches: organized or layered arrangements of foods. Can typically be separated into it’s composing parts.
- salads: tossed or jumbled arrangements of foods. Could be separated into its parts, albeit cumbersome.
- sauces: perfectly combined or blended arrangements of foods. Can no longer be separated into its composing parts, but differs from a standalone because it was still composed of other foods, and can still be identified or described as all of the parts.
Does this mean lasagna is a sandwich?
Correct
This falls into a common trap. Because we cannot succinctly define a salad in one sentence we decide that it cannot be defined at all. This argument effectively reducto ad absurdums itself by coming to the conclusion that all foods are salad.
If we start from a position where we discount nothing from being a salad, and we have only salads (and soup, seemingly) to base our analysis on, how can we ever identify the boundaries of salad? The whole argument is based on the flawed premise that anything could be a salad.
I realise that I am thinking too hard about this.
That’s bad taxonomy, because then what’s a taco salad? It’s an untossed taco salad salad. But we still don’t know what taco means. So it’s becomes an untossed untossed taco salad salad salad. Which becomes an untossed untossed untossed taco salad salad salad salad. We never learn what a taco actually is.
It’s like the G in GNU.
Exactly! I had to look it up, but yes, it is.
Then what’s a wedge salad? “Ingredients “?
I read Indiana Jones. That’s all I camr here to say.
Goodbye
Flies away
Aside from the discussion about whether the taco or burrito constitutes a sandwich, I think the judge made the correct ruling. The retail agreement says no “traditional fast food” can set up shop in that mall, and specifically cites drive thrus and outdoor seating as the reasons.
The strip mall owners probably don’t want businesses taking over common sidewalks or creating more traffic than the shared parking lot can handle. So long as they don’t have those, I don’t see any reason a Mexican food place can’t fit entirely into the leased space.
E: also based on their website this place looks bangin
Good enough for New York, good enough for Indiana
https://www.vox.com/2014/7/22/5877325/new-york-law-sandwich-burrito-tax
Things like this seem silly but there’s likely laws or protection that use sandwiches in their wording.
Defining things you want them to apply to as sandwiches is easier than changing the law.
That is why in California, bees are fish
Someone is going to find stuff like this in the future and think we’re dumb as fuck. They’d be right, but not because of this.
also, hippos and capybara are fish.
But why do they even have laws about sandwiches in the first place?
Could be food safety, taxes, production rules or any number of things.
The article does not mention any sandwich specific laws, just contract stuff about what kind of restaurant can be in a strip mall.
Read the article. It’s a zoning issue.
I’m sorry sir, this is a sandwich only zone. You and your parfait need to leave immediately.
we’re just loading the parfait i swear
Something existing does not answer the question about WHY it exists.
I’m not sure if this particular article explained, but I live here. He signed an agreement that stated that “any food business allowed would be a ‘subway’ style food business”
That’s the issue
Edit: I’m a huge fan of this taco place, just stating what’s going on. I hate subway.
That isn’t a law or zoning then, just some contract dispute.
Yea, which is why it’s in court I believe. It’s escalated to this point.
They are trying to exclude traditional fast food like McD’s,Wendy’s, etc.
WHY
Cuz fuck mcds you dense prick
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But not fuck Subway?
K
Makes more sense than the time Indiana tried to define pi as 3.2. The only reason it didn’t was because a professor from Purdue was in Indianapolis on unrelated business and convinced Indiana’s senate to table the bill.
Of course, we know today that such a thing couldn’t happen since Indiana’s legislature would laugh at the woke lib and pass it just to trigger him.
Well two decimal places invokes the devil, as does rounding correctly.
“sig what now? Sounds like the trans liberal leftist nazi woke agenda to me”
RADICAL SANDWICH ANARCHY!!!
TOASTER STRUDEL IS A SANDWICH!!!
- 1 side is toast
- 2 sides is a sandwich
- 3 sides is a taco
- 4 sides is a taquito
- 5 sides is a wrap
- 6 sides is a burrito
a wrap has 3 sides. The two ends, and the rest.
Incorrect.
- 4 sides is sushi / maki
- 5 sides is a soup / salad bowl
- 6 sides is a calzone
I prefer my sushi infinite-sided, thank you very much.
Burritos have an inside and an outside, therefore sandwich.
So… a hot dog is a taco?
Yes, by definition
Burgers, Hotdogs, Calzones, Tacos, Burritos and the like aren’t sandwiches.
Legally, at least two of those are sandwiches in the state of Indiana.
the creator of the GIF format says it’s pronounced like “Jiff” like the peanut butter, but he’s still wrong
Burgers are sandwiches.
Hotdogs are tacos.
Burritos are calzones.How come taco is it’s own style but burrito isn’t? I’d say calzone is a burrito.
If one is the other, than what’s on which side of the equation doesn’t really matter. They’re still the same thing.
So sure a calzone is also a burrito. No difference really.
Hotdogs are tacos.
hard disagree. hotdogs are made with leavened bread, tortillas are a flatbread.
hotdogs are an open-faced sandwich.
hotdogs are an open-faced sandwich.
I’m imagining a hot dog balancing on half a bun.
Hot dogs are just very congealed soup with soft croutons on the outside.
Everything is just congealed soup when you really think about it.
The top is still open, the bun is split on the bottom.
By that definition, all other sandwiches are open faced unless sealed on every side.
It works. my grandpa’s quirky sandwich! Make a kosher hot dog, slice lengthwise, put on a slice of bread, pile high garlic salt and hot sauce, then the second slice. I do think it started off with him trying to make something no one would eat, but my brothers and I jumped on it, especially when it horrified the Moms. He always acted like a little kid with how happy it made him: us kids (even if he was 70+) vs the moms!
Oh I’ve done something similar! Get some curry ketchup on there and you’ve got a currywurst sandwich.
That’s a sandwich though, the above comment said open face, so it’s just a whole hotdog teetering on a cut open half of a hot dog bun.
Hotdogs are grinders.
The top level distinction is topology.
Second level could be material categorization.
My local grocery carries hot dog shaped pita bread - that’s the only way we eat hot dogs now, fill em up with onions, chili, relish and mustard!
A hot dog is a gyro
Gyros are Greek tacos?
Look up Oki Dog. Definitely a burrito. Then ponder how badly you want one and how direly you’ll regret it should you ever eat one.
The most famous Oki creation was–is–the eponymous Oki Dog, a couple of hot dogs wrapped in a tortilla with chili, pickles, mustard, a slice of fried pastrami and a torrent of goopy American cheese–a cross-cultural burrito that’s pretty hard to stomach unless you’ve got the tum of a 16-year-old, but strangely delicious nonetheless. - Jonathan Gold
Do they have an up dog?
What’s up dog?
Not much, what’s up with you?
Aaaayyyyyyyy
that’s neither a sandwhich nor a burrito. but an abomination.
(Well, okay. technically it’s a burrito with a weiner in it. but it’s not a hotdog.)(Still an abomination)
I wonder what you would think of the Swedish Tunnbrödrulle…
I’ll try almost any thing once. (There are limits. Fried grubs were like spicy/savory gummy bears. Baby octopus in red curry was amazing. “Live” baby squid was… interesting. Aborted duck egg is a hard nope.)
I suspect it has a lot to do with what else goes in it.
I don’t know if I could handle one today but God they were good when I was younger
Correct. The Cube Rule of Food Identification is used properly here.
I TOLD YOU! I TOLD YOU ALL!!! EVERYONE LAUGHED WHEN I SAID A HOT DOG ON A BUN IS A SANDWICH WELL WHO’S LAUGHING NOW??
I would have argued with you before today, because a hot dog is clearly a taco. But I guess if tacos are sandwiches, then by the transitive property, it is also a sandwich.
HOT TACO SANDWICHES!
Does the Indiana judge know what a Torta is? Does he not realize that there’s… actual sandwiches (there’s like 7-8 different sandwiches). Tacos and burritos are NOT sandwiches.
I’m Latino, not of Mexican origin. However, sometimes I prefer their sandwich over any other dish. And I normally would buy two of them.
But is a quesadilla a sandwich?
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but the tortilla does not contain a leavening agent and therefore cannot be considered bread.
I have to disagree here. It is unleavened bread.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unleavened_bread
I’m surprised Merriam-Webster doesn’t know that.
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Idk man I consider wraps as sandwiches
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Sandwich: 🥪 (two disconnected slices of bread cut from a larger loaf 🍞)
Wrap: 🌯 (one continuous flat bread)
Burger: 🍔 (a halved bun, therefore it’s also Chicken Burger, not Chicken Sandwich)
Taco (🌮) feels like belonging broadly in the wrap category being based on flat bread.
But tacos traditionally are more like wraps by your definition, with the exception being hard/crunchy tacos which are on what i would technically call a chip, this making crunchy tacos just portable nachos
Additionally walking tacos are supported by a chip bag, making them neither a taco nor nachos.
Maybe I’m doing injustice here but I’ve always thought of soft tacos as a lazy wrap.
Is a sub/hoagie a sandwich? Bread is usually connected.
Oh God, why did I get involved
It’s not two slices of bread from a bigger loaf, so no.
those poor sandwich shop owners are all going to go out of business when they hear the news
those poor sandwich shop owners are all going to go out of business when they hear the news
Yeah, with that hard competition by taco stands…
If it is, then a hotdog is a sandwich and that’s just nonsense.
No kidding… a hotdog is clearly a taco.
Hamburgers are a specific style of sandwiches whose name is derived from Hamburg, Germany.
Chicken sandwiches are not hamburgers.
A chicken sandwich is a sandwich when the chicken meat is between two slices of bread cut from a bigger loaf. It’s a chicken burger when it’s between two halves of a bun.
And as you said, hamburger derives from the German city of Hamburg, so Germans, not Americans, have the authority here.🤪
Hmm, what of rolls? Ciabatta, Kaiser rolls? Even croissants? By this definition it seems they’d be burgers, since rolls are cut in half. But then my roast beef sandwich is a lying, cold, sad burger
You have weird Ciabattas if you think that Ciabatta is a kind of bun and not a bigger loaf. Croissants are pastry. And yes, burgers made with Kaiser rolls are totally burgers:
from a topological perspective, wraps and tacos are two different beasts.
in a wrap, the bread completely surrounds (and encloses) the other ingredients, so theres a 2-dimensional hole involved (which basically means the inside is hollow).
in a taco, no such wholes are present.
you can also distinguish sandwiches from tacos and wraps (since sandwiches involve two pieces of bread, like you said). but unfortunately, you can’t topologically distinguish a burger from a sandwich
I’m sending the cops over to your house right now.
It’s worse then that. This all because people didn’t want Mexican restaurant in a strip mall what the fuck is wrong with these people?