There are winters days that hot in South Africa, with the minimum temperature dropping below close to freezing/0°C on the same day. And most people don’t have air conditioning or well insulated houses, and life goes on. It’s not that big a deal. Now summer on the other hand, where the minimum temperature can be above 20°C, those are painful, especially as most don’t have air conditioning.
it’s june and 79 F is still higher than the average high of july, the hottest month
but yea only cracker problems, places, languages, ethnicities, foods exist
There’s really no point comparing long run averages
This was last year (July and August being colder than June and September)
There’s really no point comparing long run averages
…yea there is because that’s how we know global warming exists
It’s not a heatwave but it’s still warmer than the average weather there from 50 years agoone could question whether the headline was purposefully worded that way to produce more climate skepticism
We’re going to cook alive aren’t we?
No get out of the oven you’ll be fine it’s 80f have a chilled glass of the beverage of your choice and wear a hat
Yes, but we can laugh at the Brits before millions die from climate change
embarrassing country, fucking christ i hate england
Death to America
Good thing the king has resumed his duties. He can now address the important things.
I feel sympathy for the people of TERF Island when temperatures are genuinely too high because the infrastructure is actually not built to handle temperatures like 32C (90F).
But 26C is straight up nice day outside/just open your windows and dress lightly weather. Actually my room temp in the US right now with no AC is warmer than this and humid and I have no fan running lol.
Apparently the stiff upper lip melts at room temperature.
26C is straight up nice day outside
if you’re used to living in a sun scorched hell maybe, as a north easterner USian anything close to 80F is extremely uncomfortable without AC
Also an inhabitor of the northeast US, and 80F isn’t exactly comfortable but it’s not what the anglos make it out to be
going outside for a few minutes in 80 isn’t too bad, i just mean as an all day indoor temp with no air conditioning. the large majority of americans are used to AC while the large majority of brits are not. most americans used to AC would be whining even more than them if we lost it, if you personally have no problem with it, you’re stronger than every american i’ve met lmao. literally every college kid in my state who didn’t get an air conditioned dorm complains about it as if they’re suffocating in the pits of hell
I’ll defend the islanders and their weak constitutions.
At high enough humidity you can’t cool down from sweat, so a 88°F/31°C wetbulb temperature can be lethal. Add in sunlight, combining radiation with convection, which gives the extra 9°F/5°C needed to kill you. Humidity and direct sunlight can make 79° lethal, especially when combined with physical exertion.
It’s not just the gout and aristocratic inbreeding that’s killing them I swear!
The weirdly low dangerous wetbulb temperatures are actually arrived at with extremely low humidity and a very high dry bulb temperature. As long as the dry bulb temperature is below body temperature you can still passively cool especially with moving air, although obviously it gets much worse the closer both numbers get to body temperature. A dry bulb that’s 20 degrees below body temperature will always be cool regardless of how efficient sweating given the humidity.
I’m aware, but you’re ignoring solar gain. A dry bulb in shade will read differently than a dry bulb in direct Sun; sunlight can easily add enough heat to raise the dry bulb from 79°F to 88°F because you’re getting heat from radiation in addition to convection.
Then add in physical activity and poor air flow, add in people unprepared to dress appropriately and poor hot-climate infrastructure, it’s entirely possible for 79°F to become dangerous - especially to vulnerable populations.
“If you’re wearing a parka, and doing heavy exercise in the sun, and not drinking water, and also you have other health problems too, then this otherwise cool and pleasant temperature would become a problem” isn’t a very sound argument. Like yes, if you’re actively overheating yourself and also dehydrated and also overdressed and also you don’t do anything at all to mitigate these things you’re actively doing then you’re in for a bad time, but you can also mitigate this by not doing that, by drinking enough water, and by having an electric fan. You should never just passively have trouble with a temperature that’s 20 degrees below body temperature, that’s colder than an air conditioned space should be. Like here the temperature outside actually is 88F, it’s passively 85F inside, and after running the AC for a while I stopped it at 82F because it was getting chilly.
“If you’re able to do x y and z to mitigate the heat then this is a cool and pleasant temperature” is not a sound argument either.
Public health warnings are not about naked people sitting perfectly still in the shade in front of a fan. Try doing manual labor in the Sun while wearing PPE and your boss will fire you if he catches you sitting down or taking too many water breaks. Warnings like this give workers the power they need to stand up to their boss because, if they are injured, liability falls back on the boss. We aren’t just talking about people “passively” having trouble, we’re talking about the entire population.
Also the elderly who straight up refuse to modify any of their behaviour with environmental conditions
Grandma, you get $700 a year from the government because you’re like 100, please turn on an air conditioner
Grandma, frowning in hyperthermic defiance
79F isn’t even “you need to mitigate this” weather. It’s cold, and only if you do things that would be dangerous at even colder temperatures does it hypothetically become a problem. You can give yourself heatstroke while standing knee deep in snow if you try hard enough, that doesn’t mean freezing temperatures are dangerously high.
Ok let’s not over exaggerate lol. 79F is not cold weather lol. It’s not even chilly.
That just opens you up to mocking from the other direction.
It is below the temperature of my air conditioned room.
The weather in my part of Europe is absolute dogshit now, it doesn’t get above 18C, it’s windy and it fucking rains all the time. Those Terf Island ingrates don’t know how good they have it with their 26C “heat wave”.
So do people just not understand that temperature tolerance is a limited thing based on your climate and any deviations can feel significant?
No, they do not, and most of them aren’t willing to understand, either.
People, or at least NT people, with higher temperature tolerance are almost always assholes about it - I have weird heat sensitivity, I suspect on account of my Autism, and I only stopped getting constant shit for it once I basically entirely stopped talking to NTs.
The people in this thread are just seizing on an excuse to shit on people they perceive as weaker, or an excuse to shit on the English as if they are actually inherently evil just by existing. Or both.
shit on the English as if they are actually inherently evil just by existing
Death to America
an excuse to shit on the English as if they are actually inherently evil just by existing
Yes this one, although it’s very generous to consider the last 500 years of colonial domination “just existing”
Obviously there are a range of conditions that impact temperature sensitivity and people with these should be afforded all accommodations to make their lives better, but I don’t consider being British a legitimate condition
Yeah, the disabled deserve to suffer because they were born into a collapsed empire.
Did you miss the second paragraph?
It’s not actually ableism to experience joy at the thought of able bodied NT 30 year old British people suffering from 26 degree weather
I imagine there’s heaps of Brits with post-covid POTS and you don’t see a single article on them struggling not to pass out when the temperature is 20 or above
What news outlets publish any kind of article about the suffering of disables people due to the environment?
Genuinely I would like to know if you hear about how post covid disabled people suffer in any kind of mainstream media?
Just because you construct an ideal justified victim of the UK heat doesn’t actually excuse you from the reality of who will be victimised.
It’s been hotter than this “heatwave” in my home country (with no AC) every day for the last 20 years
I am not going to cry for Angloids because you have put a progressive spin on your whinging and self-victimization at lukewarm temperatures
This is pure first-world-problems and chauvinism, the article is centering the conversation on Britain as a whole being under duress, it doesn’t say anything about disabled people. It’s another in a long line of white people being the center of the world and any minor inconvenience to them being a huge deal everyone else has to consider and worry about. I don’t give a fuck if Britain is 80 F. Literal non-story that has wasted my time, yet another anglo imposition of specialness
Disabled people exist wether or not a shitass news org covers them, dipshit.
It’s progressive to be concerned over disabled people in the imperial core, you are literally just being ableist.
What news outlets publish any kind of article about the suffering of disables people due to the environment?
Yes, this is my point - we can enjoy articles about the “average” Brit suffering because there aren’t usually articles posted about actual suffering that can be easily addressed.
doesn’t actually excuse you from the reality of who will be victimised
All of them, all of the Brits will be victimised.
We used to be able to shit on the English, now we can’t because of woke ☹️
It is interesting to see high heat and associated sweating as quite a powerful stimulus which often causes overstimulation particularly in people with neuro divergence. So sometimes it’s not even a heat tolerance problem but an overstimulation problem which NTs seem to have a hard time understanding.
Also like others have said, perception of temperature changed is largely dependent on where your current baseline is.
I have fibromyalgia and autism so it’s a combo for me. Heat makes pain worse, discomfort increases sensitivity, etc etc bad times.
Even just new meds can fuck with your ability to process heat. When I started prozac I would feel hot and get sweaty from basically any activity, which then meant I’d get cold, shiver, sweat more. NTs are fucking weird
In my case it almost feels like my body’s reaction to heat has a screwed-up sense of how hot things are. I can’t take hot showers, for example, which are objectively not dangerous, because they genuinely feel like they are going to burn me - normal-hot-shower temperature water feels like like a wet hot pan, it’s like my cap is just lower. Ambient heat in the air and light doesn’t do that in the same way, but it can make walls and stuff feel like that, naturally.
I hadn’t thought of it from the overstimulation angle before, though, but now that I think about it I think you’re right, that is at least part of why I hate ambient heat and particularly sweating. Thank you for that insight.
That sounds super frustrating, do you have any idea why that might be? I know certain conditions like Raynauds or some medication can fuck with temperature perception.
Oh no worries, my partner described it to me that way as she gets pretty much the same symptoms in the heat that she gets in large crowds or noisy environments. Then we looked it up and other people (especially those with ASD) described it the same way!
Ableism is, unfortunately, extremely common on hexbear.
I think that the shitting on the British is just overcompensation for having been really into Doctor Who and Sherlock in their Tumblr phase. I’m Australian, so I do love to insult the British, but people just overdo it.
I mean, it’s genetic with you lot
I’m Chinese living in Australia, so I have 2 reasons to insult the British.
If I ever get power I’m flooding the UK with opium.
Uncritical support in your noble and brave quest.
YOU HATE BECAUSE LE POP CULTURE PRODUCT!!!A normal person can’t watch Sherlock without developing a hatred for england. It just tends to fade with time in most people
meanwhile, in Australia
Not to mention that just from person to person within the same climate there are significant differences, probably genetic at their core. Two people can be sitting in the exact same spot and one will be burning up and the other freezing cold and neither of them are “wrong”
Part of it can also be if a person has had heat injuries before too. After you have one, you become more sensitive and vulnerable to heat. I know, the I’ve had a couple… :-(
Temperatures in my place is double of that I’d legit love to have a 26 degree heatwave.
Different strains of bacteria burn off at different temperaturesI guess
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How the hell do so many of you not understand that some people actually have work manual labor outside in the sun?
“sTaY iN tHe sHadE aNd tUrN oN a fAn lol”
people have to do that all over the world, including in places where 79F is a nice cool day. British who can’t handle a warm day are a joke, I grew up laboring hard in Egypt. Guess what, we didn’t have AC
This is the weather in my birthplace right now, and it’s not a “heat wave” just normal temperature. It doesn’t even get below 79F at night during lows half the time! What a joke Britain!
There’s no set maximum temperature for working outside in the UK, but employers are implored to use their discretion to provide a reasonable temperature for staff to work in and take action when necessary.
Homie I live in the South and you wouldn’t catch me calling 79° comfortable on any given day, except perhaps a dry day.
That’s tonight’s overnight low temp where I live
South what, Iceland?
Even at 100 percent humidity that’s only equivalent to 30 C / 86 F
South United States.
I’m from Caracas and our weather was MILD compared to the dogshit climate I’ve had to endure in the U.S
Whereabouts in the US?
Also til that Caracas has very mild and seemingly consistent weather, I guess it’s insulated by the Carribbean - looks lovely
Houston.
Yeah we have a mountain range that insulates us from a lot of stormy and hot weather. It’s honestly unfair, cause I never had air conditioning until my family moved to Florida. When we first arrived we were so broke, our car had no AC. When I tell you Florida was hell, even at 80°. You got no idea. I can’t imagine being poor now with 90-100° days and 80% humidity.
Ngl i get sweaty and uncomfortable in like 20°c so i get it
