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Einar to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish • 2 years ago

France passes bill to allow police to remotely activate phone camera and microphone to spy on people

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France passes bill to allow police to remotely activate phone camera and microphone to spy on people

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France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone, spy on people
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A bill that would allow police in France to spy on suspects by remotely activating cameras, microphone including GPS of their phones has been passed.
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  • @explodicle@local106.com
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    1•2 years ago

    Fancy French purses are about to take a new direction! Styles range from Étouffé (muffled) to Le Faraday (electromagnetic shielding).

  • @lokitkhemak@programming.dev
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    30•2 years ago

    This will definitely not be misused by anyone in the government. How on the earth did such blatantly dystopian law get passed?

    • @Raphael@lemmy.world
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      -8•2 years ago

      Macron is a NATO puppet.

      • @Madison420@lemmy.world
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        6•2 years ago

        removed by mod

        • @Raphael@lemmy.world
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          0•2 years ago

          Except that not really, France could easily have another revolution when things like this happen. NATO doesn’t want any revolutions because the workers would have more power, they want corporation to hold power and wealth, as they can be controlled and sanctioned more easily.

  • @Bushwhack@lemmy.world
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    22•2 years ago

    1984 - George Orwell tried to warn us.

    • @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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      2•2 years ago

      This is bad, but that’s such an overused comparison. It can even be counterproductive because the Oceania from the books is so obviously different from the real world.

      • @Bushwhack@lemmy.world
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        2•2 years ago

        I’m talking about the wall in their rooms though that they can use to listen in when they want, you have no private conversations.

  • @DestroyMegacorps@lemmy.ml
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    27•2 years ago

    How to make your country burn faster 101

  • @Awthatsnotright@lemmy.world
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    5•2 years ago

    The Patriot Act took care of that for us in the US!

  • @unphazed@lemmy.world
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    2•2 years ago

    French police about to see a whole lotta dick pics.

  • theplan
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    4•2 years ago

    I see this going very poorly very quickly. I don’t know how much longer we’re going to have a France after this, but I’m interested in seeing how this unfolds.

  • @Miczech@lemmy.ml
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    5•2 years ago

    Is this a legitimate source of news?

    • Dave
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      10•2 years ago

      It’s based on a syndicated news release from Agence France Presse. Here’s a direct transcription of the article from AFP: https://www.barrons.com/news/france-set-to-allow-police-to-spy-through-phones-b21f1f21

  • Shameless Genius
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    Privacy and anonymity is illusion.

  • @Candelestine@lemmy.world
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    119•2 years ago

    … wtf is going on over there… What kind of douchebags did you guys elect? I mean, I’m American, I know I can’t throw stones here, but y’alls were better than that. You like, wisely stood against our 9/11 invasion and we probably should’ve listened.

    But, wtf?

    btw, if anyone was too lazy to dig, this publication is a nigerian newspaper that actually seems legit. Founded in 2020, so pretty new still. Looking at their front page they mostly just do local reporting. Has had run-ins with local power.

    • @Boiglenoight@lemmy.world
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      3•2 years ago

      I mean, I’m American, I know I can’t throw stones here

      Right? I’m wary of chastising any first world country at the moment. The past 7 years in particular have been especially WTF

    • @Count042@lemmy.ml
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      12•2 years ago

      You know that America just… does this, right? No bill, no law… In fact it was the first to do this at all. It’s why in crime shows they remove the battery (from phone where you still can, of course.)

      • @angrylittlekitty@lemmy.one
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        3•2 years ago

        The movie citizen four did an excellent job detailing different ways a government (in this case the united states) can do this.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenfour

      • @AreYouNotEntertained@lemmy.world
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        6•2 years ago

        It is not legal for police to spy on citizens via their phone cameras in the US…

        • @foggenbooty@lemmy.world
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          8•2 years ago

          Police, no. Homeland security? crickets

          • pips
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            10•2 years ago

            Still no. Do they do it anyway? Probably, but that doesn’t make it legal.

            • @Zron@lemmy.world
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              8•2 years ago

              If I do something, people find out about it, and I don’t get arrested, it’s defacto legal

            • arcturus
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              1•2 years ago

              are they gonna get in trouble for doing it, even if the government finds out?

              probably not, so it’s practically legal; and that’s kind of the only kind of legality that matters in this case

      • @SheeEttin@lemmy.world
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        17•2 years ago

        No, the “Patriot” Act did authorize stuff like this in the US. There was also the “Freedom” Act, and generally this is all FISA stuff that has very low standards for what’s allowed.

      • @Serinus@lemmy.ml
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        2•2 years ago

        It would require a warrant signed by a judge with probable cause.

        Wiretap warrants aren’t easy.

        • @Count042@lemmy.ml
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          Sorry for the late response, but remind me again how many warrants the FISA court has denied?

          That’s an approval rate of 99.97%

        • @MrPozor@discuss.tchncs.de
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          1•2 years ago

          It will be like that in France as well. But once they have the tools, there will be abuse.

    • @BestBouclettes@jlai.lu
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      We elected him as the “last rempart to the extreme right”. Turns out he and his cronies are corrupted authoritarian fucks. Their shit social and economic policies are opening a highway to the actual far right in the near future, most likely 2027.

      • @baked_tea@lemmy.world
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        12•2 years ago

        Lmao bait and switch

        • @BestBouclettes@jlai.lu
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          13•2 years ago

          More like shitty electoral system that facilitates the choice of a lesser evil instead of the choice for the best candidate.

          • Fredselfish
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            5•2 years ago

            Sounds like the United States.

            • @BestBouclettes@jlai.lu
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              Definitely less worse but still shitty indeed

            • @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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              They have proportional representation and a ton of parties. It’s a completely different kind of suck. Although I guess they also are presidential.

          • @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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            So what would be a good system? FPTP also sucks, or at least does for local minority voters like me, or if both parties become weak for whatever reason like in the US.

            • @BestBouclettes@jlai.lu
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              1•2 years ago

              Maybe ranked choice voting, coupled with a parliamentary system instead of a presidential one ? I don’t think there is a perfect system but it would probably move things around in a better direction.

        • @Serinus@lemmy.ml
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          2•2 years ago

          Sinemaed.

  • @beard__hunter@lemmy.fmhy.mlB
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    16•2 years ago

    I am Indian. Even our douche bag of politicians will think twice before passing such legislation. Of course they will spy illegally on us but they won’t pass such obvious fascist legislation.

  • @Dr_Toofing@programming.dev
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    22•2 years ago

    The article does not mention, how will this be achieved technology wise? I don’t know of any universal way that a government might activate these features on a person’s phone. Unless network operators/phone manufacturers start installing backdoors. This does not bode well.

    • @Raphael@lemmy.world
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      Ohhh my sweet summer child. Who is it that is making those phones?

      Let me tell you, it’s Google.

    • @SheeEttin@lemmy.world
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      6•2 years ago

      Cell carriers can already push apps to your device.

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthickey/2014/12/01/carriers-can-now-install-apps-on-android-handsets-without-customers-permission/?sh=2f169ccc5dde

      • @Dasnap@lemmy.world
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        2•2 years ago

        I assume/hope this isn’t true if you bought the phone outside a contract?

        • pips
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          If you have a cell plan, they can push to your SIM.

          • @Dasnap@lemmy.world
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  • @ChronoPixel@lemmy.world
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    Wouldn’t this breach multiple EU privacy laws?

    • @Awthatsnotright@lemmy.world
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      7•2 years ago

      This is what I’m wondering.

      • @ErwinLottemann@feddit.de
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        I don’t think it does, as the GDPR does not protect ‘criminals’ or against the police using your data.

    • @Figaro2x@lemmy.world
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      There are exceptions for law enforcement/intelligence in GDPR. Those are particularly broad in the UK data protection act for example.

  • @Mongostein@lemmy.ca
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    32•2 years ago

    It’s almost like Macron wants to be decapitated.

  • @ebits21@lemmy.ca
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    0•2 years ago

    Ugh.

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