• AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    I’ve read the lemmy.world responses, and they’re all predictably trash. The real answer is there’s no good way to tell if someone’s a kid because they’re plenty of mature 12 year olds and plenty of dipshit adults with poor writing skills (ie boomers). To rephrase the question, what is a dead giveaway that someone is actually not a kid?

    1. They talk about mid- to low-tier shows that your average zoomer wouldn’t know about. So someone talking about The Simpsons or Batman: The Animated Series doesn’t mean much, but someone talking about Biker Mice from Mars or Extreme Dinosaurs means they’re some millennial.

    2. They namedrop social media sites that no longer exist. Remember Xanga and Vine?

    3. They complain about body problems. Knees that feel funny before it rains. Bad back. Nose hair that never stops growing. And so on.

    4. They demonstrate an understanding on how old and obsolete technology works (typewriters, payphones, VCR, floppy disks, Limewire, DOS, modems, Blackberries). Like, average zoomers don’t know how to use those map guides that are in the form of a book.

    5. They remember how the pre-modern web was like or life before the web was like. Someone who’s <18 years old was born after 2006, when the modern web was still being build.

    6. They remember ancient memes and fads that are obscure enough that it isn’t some zoomer looking up random memes on knowyourmeme.

    7. They’re horribly out of touch with what kids enjoy. Notice this is different from passing judgment on what kids enjoy because they’re plenty of things I thought was stupid when I was a kid. But when you say shit like “only 13 year olds like Tiktok” or “only kids like Minecraft” yeah you’re just out of touch.

    • Palacegalleryratio [he/him]
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      61 year ago

      Also Minecraft is old as shit, I remember when it was just creative mode, no crafting as an early beta on a web page back in like 2009. That’s 15 years ago, Minecraft is almost old enough join the British army!!

  • @[email protected]
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    Very confidently wrong, poor reading comprehension, poor grammar, limited vocabulary, emoji gore, catch phrase/pop culture quotes/talking points repeated with no comprehension of what they’re saying, clearly not aware of how many things in life work, religious regurgitation while being surprised everyone doesn’t agree with them. Very easily impressed with basic factual statements, clearly thinking confidence is the main thing that makes someone correct. Thinks their mom telling they they are handsome is a valid point. Idk, that’s all I got.

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        It’s like I tell my kids, an adult is just a child who got old. It’s also why a lot of cultures have a concept of adulthood that has nothing to do with reaching sexual maturity alone.

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      231 year ago

      This is like reading a reverse horoscope - you’ve just thrown as many negative traits as you could think of at the wall, knowing at least a few will stick.

      Nothing on your list couldn’t also apply to an adult, especially those most privileged and entitled in society.

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      21 year ago

      Those first two…and a couple others, also apply to a lot of adults I have had political conversations with the past several years…

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      very confidently wrong

      Lmao dude that’s just people in general especially on forums

      There’s also nothing wrong with people learning new info, no matter how simple it may seem. That’s kind of a pretentious/egotistical way to operate.

      Most of this list is actually pretty garbage. Emojis? Using slang/catch phrases? This is basic social stuff.

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        What I wrote – Very easily impressed with basic factual statements

        What you think it means – there’s something wrong with people who are learning new things.

        Does ‘‘basic factual statements’’ mean ‘‘new information that someone is just now learning’’. Can it also apply to information they already know, or believe is true? Can it also be referring to basic knowledge nearly everyone knows?

        Does ‘being very easily impressed’ include a situation where someone reacts to information in a typical fashion? Does it exclude adults learning or recognizing factual information and responding with a simple agreement, such as ‘yeah that’s true’? Or is this an indication that an overreacting response is the dead giveaway?

        1. Did the sentance make a claim something is wrong with being a child?

        2. Did the sentence claim that learning new information is likewise something wrong?

        Please write one 5 sentance paragraph explaining your opinion on the above two numbered questions. Proofreading will not be necessary.

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      Depending on what you meant by “very easily impressed with basic factual statements” it could go either way. I’m an adult and I’m happy to admit I don’t know a lot things, sometimes I’ve been stunned that what I believed was totally wrong and all it took was some to give me a basic fact to make me realise.

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    331 year ago

    I honestly can’t tell. Whenever I see a dumb outrage for video games, I tell my self that it’s a kid, but deep down I I really don’t know

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    I don’t really know, but when they have weird illogical views that they defend with trump like arguments, I think they are kids. They might not be 10.

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          That was really interesting. I had a friend who’s brother killed himself when he was a young teen. If things didn’t go his way or he was overly irritated, especially when he was drunk, he reacted by destroying things like a pubescent boy might. He also came from a wealthy family so I always thought that contributed as well, like not caring if he breaks something just buy a new one. But he didn’t just break his own things. I had to end the friendship when he drunkenly threatened a woman who lived in my building with a gun. I hope he’s ok.

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            Sorry to hear about your friend. While I’m no doctor, that seems to fit the bill to me. I’ve known people that had other trauma when young, and yeah, maintaining healthy relationships seems to be the hardest thing for them. Your story reminded me of a lot.

  • Count Regal Inkwell
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    Excessive edginess

    It’s important to differentiate it from like. Having extreme opinions. There are plenty of adults with extreme opinions and they are a whole other conversation. – But only people under a certain age (not strictly kid, mind, though most people have shaken this off by their mid 20s) have a penchant to arrive at extreme opinions specifically because they are “edgy” and “cool”.

    This tends to also come with a particularly needless hostile attitude, where they very quickly and easily start with the verbal abuse.

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    Unable to understand and/or admit that both sides can be bad. It’s ok to admit the “your team” did some nasty shit and it doesn’t in any way cancel out what the other “team” did.

    Also, Winning an argument doesn’t in any way make you a winner. Actually, an argument that someone “won” often doesn’t lead to a change for the better or even make anyone convinced that your arguments were valid.

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    When they’re adamant that voting third party in the United States will be useful in some capacity, I assume they’re 13

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      131 year ago

      Conversely: when they say this is the most important election of “our lifetimes”, and the world will end if we lose.

      (Doesn’t mean they’re wrong)

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      I know a full grown adult that does that in every election. Local elections, sure, I can understand, but he does that with all of them, Basically a card carrying communist that’s a useful idiot for right wing politicians.

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      I don’t assume they are 13, but they at least aren’t old enough to remember what happened in 2016.

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        81 year ago

        Or any other election year, for that matter. I don’t think a third party candidate has gotten a significant voter block in 100 years.

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          Yep. A third party candidate hasn’t gotten a single electoral college vote since George Wallace, and the only time a third party has done better than either a Democrat or a Republican was with Theodore Roosevelt and his Bull Moose party, which crushed Taft but got absolutely obliterated in turn by Wilson due to the spoiler effect.

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          Ross Perot got 18.9% of the popular vote in 1992. While he didn’t get any electoral votes he likely prevented a second HW Bush term.

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              Source on this? I was young but I remember that election. Perot seemed to be like some kind of ultracapitalist “run the country like a business” moron that people respected because he was rich. My grandpa loved him and I rarely heard him talk politics. He was also only educated to the sixth grade for what that’s worth.

              Seems like the kind of guy to take a bite out of the conservative vote.

              I’m gonna fix my ignorance and go look him up right now though.

              Edit-- I’m back, learned a lot. I love that he supported electronic direct democracy way back in 1992. He was in favor of gun control and money for AIDS research. Openly supported gay rights in 1996 but notably not until his second campaign when he really had no chance.

              He didn’t believe trickle down economics worked. Was a billionaire who spoke against greed which is really strange. But me calling him an ultracapitalist is probably misplaced. Also not a moron. He was into taxing the wealthy, starting to like this guy, but balancing the budget by cutting social programs, nevermind do not like.

              He opposed outsourcing factory jobs and favored environmental protection. He wanted to decrease the budgets of both the military and NASA. Wanted to cancel the space station.

              Quite the complicated guy. I love some of his policies and hate others. Seems like a weird mix when viewed through a modern lens. I think I’d have considered voting for him if I was ten years older in '92. Probably would have voted for Clinton though who notably achieved one of Perot’s primary goals, which was to balance the budget.

              So I ended up researching Clinton’s campaign and it was straight up racist against black people. He also pledged to end welfare “as we know it”. I think I actually would have voted for Perot! Maybe there’s something to what you’re saying about reducing Clinton’s margin of victory.

    • @[email protected]
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      81 year ago

      Almost anyone with an irrational political stance betrays their youth.

      Political ideology has always captivated the passions of youth, but isn’t successfully implemented or even internalized except by people with age and experience and emotional regulation.

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        I agree with you. Do you think people become more conservative with age or is it society becoming more progressive and leaving them behind? Obviously ignoring the current regressive times of the last eight+ years there.

        To contribute an answer to the original question I offer this post as evidence of age- thinking about how much has changed during my life may have come through above.

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          Do you think people become more conservative with age or is it society becoming more progressive and leaving them behind?

          I am getting up there in years and seeing this play out over and over.

          I think every generation wants to be more progressive than the last, but we tend to carry baggage of fear and insecurity through the generations. Or more specifically, older people tend to gain the political and monetary capital needed to affect policy and shape our societal outlook and attitude. They will always be more conservative than the younger generation who will want more freedoms and personal rights, inherently, and as the ruling class will clash with newer sensibilities, over and over.

          What we’re asking here, is the conservatism reflected in our elders and leadership now broadly more harmful or helpful? Are we out of the touch or is it the kids who are wrong?

          I think it’s a mix but mostly it’s not our real problem. Our real problem is that no matter what our age, we have greatly misunderstood how our own existence works. Most people have been taught that they have brains designed to exercise logic and reason and that brains are the best thing ever if you use them and make them smart.

          No, our brains are not logical tools. We are not a rational species. There was no “age of enlightenment.” It’s all a hoax. Our brains are tools designed to write a story to explain how you feel. And that’s it. It doesn’t even have to make sense. When we all learn how our brains actually work we will collectively make better decisions, have more compassion for each other, and likely sink into even deeper despair as we all start to realize we have no free will.

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      Why not vote 3rd party in states that only go one direction? Take NY for instance. What the fuck harm comes from voting 3rd party assholes for president? One time the state elected a republican candidate and it was (still is I think) the largest landslide in history. I’m 36 and have always hated the 2 party system. It’s been easier and easier as I got older too with increasing political polarity.

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        Because if enough people do that, it actually can result in that state not “doing what it always does.”

        Assuming voting for X is going to result in Y getting elected over Z “anyways” is not a good strategy for getting what you want.

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          What I want is more than 2 fucking options. What you are assuming is that I wouldn’t get what I want if a conservative won NY. For this to happen there would need to be a mass exodus of democrats abandoning their party to vote conservative. So for that to happen either the democratic candidate is God awful or the conservative is a homerun. Either way I dont give a fuck.

          I vote for my interests in state and local elections. Presidential elections in NY are the least concerning elections as they should be for every fuckin American.

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            41 year ago

            If you want more than two options vote for Democrats in primaries that support ranked choice voting initiatives. As it stands, you realistically have a binary choice and until you have ranked choice voting that will continue to be true.

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            This, comments like “Presidential elections in NY are the least concerning elections as they should be for every fuckin American” is how you know someone is a kid. Saying the presidential election is the least concerning election? The guy who appoints Supreme Court Justices that shape our laws and lives? The guy who basically runs the country, don’t worry about that one. What the actual fuck lol.

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      521 year ago

      The youngsters are downvoting you, but what you’re saying is sad but true. It’s the reason Bernie never ran as an independent, he knew it would hand the victory to republicans on a silver platter.

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      You would need some real insurance that others were commuted to vote 3rd party no matter what. Otherwise the real benifit is just getting to that 5% mark where third parties get some bennies like federal funding and automatic ballot access in some places. Which is minor vs say stopping a campaign of vengeance from a candidate who has acted feloniously already and has abused his position to black bag political opponents before.

  • verity_kindle
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    Too much emotion in their writing. Personal attacks. Doubling down in the reply. Support for the Chinese Communist Party.

    • @[email protected]
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      151 year ago

      Lol, comment removed. It ended with, “…support for the Chinese Communist party” as a way of finding out someone is a child.

      Which was then removed in a, dare I say, childish act of moderation.

      (Which is fine, the folks at .ml are welcome to censor as they see fit, of course, and I’m sure this comment isn’t long for this world.)

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      Support for the Chinese Communist Party.

      Imagine thinking everyone in China is 15yo. It says a lot of you.

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    They’re the ones who are not obsessing over children’s toys or saying “adulting is difficult!”.

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    Specifically in games: constantly repeating the flavor of the month insults. Typically some influencer comes up with a funny insult then for the rest of the month some kids use that one singular insult for every situation