I was sure it was going to be professional genocide ghoul Shapiro. Color me surprised.

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        A somewhat progressive governor (who has photos with zionazis) is getting neutered andnthey are trying to dupe “the left” into voting for top-cop

        https://jewishinsider.com/2024/08/minnesota-gov-tim-walz-veepstakes-bid-progressive-kamala-harris/

        Walz also spoke at AIPAC’s 2010 conference, underscoring the importance of the U.S.-Israel alliance to the pro-Israel group. “Israel is our truest and closest ally in the region, with a commitment to values of personal freedoms and liberties, surrounded by a pretty tough neighborhood,” he said in his address that year.

        honk HOW’S GENOCIDE GOVERNOR?! IS GENOCIDE AND APARTHIED YOUR PERSONAL FREEDOMS AND LIBERTIES?

        EDIT /r/TheDeprogram is white knighting this guy. He’s a DEMOCRAT EVERYONE. Moderate wing of fascism yadda yadda… get over him yesterday.

        Ok maybe not totally, but stay woke sicko-hexbear-woke y’all

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          As an aside, I saw video of him speaking for the first at the campaign event in Pennsylvania, and he has Nixon face/jowls and a thick Minnesota accent, which made me sad imagining the alternate timeline where the Dem and GOP VP candidates are Jesse Ventura and Mike Pillow respectively

          sicko-wistful

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    Thank fucking god honestly. Shapiro pick would have been a nightmare regardless of your thoughts on voting. An arch-zionist who volunteered for the IOF one assassination away from the presidency.

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      Also literally helped cover up a Murder and had sexual harassment allegations in his office. I wouldn’t be surprised if that played more of a role than the zionism.

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      Yeah, Walz is far from a lefty candidate, but given the track record of the dems, I thought when it came down to him and Shapiro, they would make the same bad choice they’ve made basically my entire life. Not a victory by any stretch, but at least not the worst option for a change.

    • Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]OP
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      Yeah that’s exactly why I was sure they would pick him. Astonishing to see the Dems not go with the worst, dumbest option available to try to appeal to the worst people in the country.

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        It’s so funny that they are going to handily beat trump by simply not making the exact worst decision possible at every turn (like second or third worst maybe idk).

        Such a contrast from picking Clinton and Biden twice.

        • Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]OP
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          He’s an astonishingly bad and unpopular candidate, and losing to him once (plus almost losing again) required Mission Impossible levels of threading the bad planning and performance needles. It would be super funny if they just blew him out of the water by making a few choices that weren’t the worst available options and calling him weird a few times.

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              I’m trying to imagine Clinton’s reaction of this happened and it’s absolutely hilarious. Just makes my day lol.

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              Especially if it’s the same congressionally and they have to innovate new ways of obstructing their totally progressive goals.

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    Kelly made more sense imo. He could totally take the wind out of the Republicans’ sails on the attempted Trump assassination because he’s married to Gabby Giffords and she got way worse than a free industrial ear piercing, and they could go on the attack on gun control and make it personal. (I know the Dems would never go on the attack other than “sir have you no decency” and “he did document stuff wrong” but still)

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      The outcome should be extremely funny either way. Either they beat Trump handily and both Trump and Hillary Clinton immediately explode, or 2016 2 happens and libs immediately explode. Looking at lots of the world’s worst people being super mad no matter what happens.

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      Yeah it will be shocking because there is no possible surprise left. Trump was an outsider, he campaigned on so many different stances that are completely different from how his own base see him now. Who exactly is embarrassed to say they’re voting for Trump now for example? Look at that RNC cult shit with them all wearing the ear bandage or whatever. Absolutely pathetic but also a glimpse of how completely proud they are.

      Also Hillary was definitely far more like Biden’s path, even he could have had a better chance if he wasn’t such a deranged out of touch nazi and zionist. Fucking talking about Bidenomics and NATO while people can’t afford rent lol.

      If the new team is even remotely more competent, which seems like it, its realy hard to imagine this being like 2016 at all.

      Also while all this happens Trump fumbled with the Vance shit already. He can’t even be as competent as he was in 2016 anyway.

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    Love me a super-progressive ticket where both candidates are in bed with gig economy ghouls and enjoy siccing the police state on people. Can’t wait to hear how excited my maybe-later-kiddo maybe-later-honey friends are!

    (This was the lesser of four evils, or however many people she had on her shortlist, and it’s still a guy who teargassed his largest city. The Democrats, folks!)

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        True. Would like to see a comparison between the worst abuses of the National Guard in Minnesota and Trump’s Bible photo-op.

        • Chronicon [they/them]
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          seeing as the deployment was way more widespread it’s bound to be way worse. they did a lot of sketchy shit in MN, maybe portland’s feds black bagging people would be the better comparison

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            Afaik people were very cowed during the national guard occupation. At that point everyone was waiting to see if Chauvin would walk. Walz sent in the military pre-emptively and people were scared enough by all the soldiers to mostly stay home. And then Chauvin was convicted so we didn’t get massive street actions.

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              I mean, people were pretty cowed by the natl guard coming in with live ammo, yeah: they didn’t want to get shot. In part they were given a bit more respect since they weren’t literally the same department people were there protesting (plus a lot of people have a military fetish and didn’t see them as the glorified cops they are).

              But I think you’re conflating two different time periods, chauvin’s trial/verdict was like a full year later. The national guard deployed a full day before Chauvin was even arrested or charged, though they amassed much larger numbers/presence in the following days.

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                But I think you’re conflating two different time periods

                My memory of about three years around 2020 is totally fucked by trauma. I had thought there was a massive national guard deployment when the Chauvin verdict was to be read. Did that happen?

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                  oh yeah there was actually, I kinda forgot about that since they weren’t, you know, shooting at people (that I heard about anyhow). I was talking about the first time around but they actually spent like twice as much money on it the second time in 2021, just to have them lingering around random businesses, precincts, etc.

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            This is the main one I remember from Minnesota

            Police officers and National Guard forces in Minneapolis shot paintballs at residents standing outside on their porch, as a curfew was enforced throughout the city.

            A video posted on Twitter on Saturday night appears to show the Minnesota National Guard and state police ordering the residents of one street to go inside, before they turn their weapons on a group of residents.

            The footage captures people rushing inside the property after shots are fired and shows where one member of the public has been hit by a paintball.

            Armed officers can be heard shouting “light ‘em up” before the shots start.

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              that one got lots of attention because it was totally unprovoked and aimed at bystanders in their own home, but was far from the worst they also shot live rounds at a car out past curfew, along with tons of less lethals, and linda tirado is currently dying from health struggles initiated by her losing an eye to a baton round (iirc)

              a pawn shop owner shot someone too. maybe multiple people?

              They also arrested a CNN crew live on air, that was wild but obv way down the totem pole from maiming and killing.

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                Anoka County deputies fired less-lethal munitions at the car before the National Guard member fired live rounds from his M4 carbine rifle.

                “You told me to shoot! He told me to shoot. He said, ‘Shoot!’” the unidentified guard member said.

                “It was less lethal, dude,” an Anoka County deputy responded.

                Death to America

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                  if this is what they were doing to journalists you can imagine how well they treated people that didn’t have camera crews and press passes

                  death to america indeed

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      I’m still kind of surprised they didn’t go with Liz Cheney or something. Didn’t Matty Y float Mitt Romney? That’s the level of decision making I’ve come to expect from the Democrats.

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      He did the brutal crackdown on Minneapolis.

      Governor Tim Walz activated the Minnesota National Guard in response to civil unrest. The 7,123 troops activated represented the largest deployment of the state’s forces since World War II.[35] By early June 2020, violence in the Minneapolis–Saint Paul metropolitan area had resulted in at least two deaths,[36] 604 arrests, and more than $500 million[7] in damage to approximately 1,500 properties, the second-most destructive period of local unrest in U.S. history, after the 1992 Los Angeles riots.[37][8][38][39] Violent protests in Minneapolis–Saint Paul over Floyd’s murder largely subsided after May 30, 2020.[30][40] The Minnesota National Guard and a multi-jurisdiction government command that responded to the riots demobilized on June 7, 2020.[41][35]

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          walz isn’t a cop just a liberal bootlicker

          Not that the distinction is really that meaningful here

          Edit: oh right he was in the national guard. Not deployed to civil unrest that I’ve seen but yea

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              governor but same same. jacob frey is the mayor in this case and is somehow worse than walz (well and whoever was in st paul at the time). Also Minneapolis is literally set up where the mayor basically gets sole control of the police iirc, city council gets nothin

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      I think he’s definitely the least bad of the options she was picking from (which is, again, shocking), but he’s still no leftist or even SocDem. His handling of the George Floyd protests in Minneapolis was abysmal. He’s just not a rabid genocide cheerleader or a finance ghoul.

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      look up his record on uber/lyft driver protections, hospital staffing bill, calling in the national guard after george floyd

      Nothing any other dem wouldn’t have also done, tbh, but he is still a dem, there’s plenty to be mad about

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          Walz was IN the national guard for like 25 years and had them fuckin occupy minneapolis for ages afterward (I saw online claims that they demobilized within 2 weeks but I visited during that summer and they were still shacked up outside the convention center which I think was their base of operations.)

          libs and chuds alike have no conception of reality on issues like this unless they directly experience it. It’s all vibes based and heavily influenced by right wing news

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    Look it’s probably the best outcome possible for the Dems.

    As communists the result of this election simply alters the nature of the fight, not the difficulty, but this makes all our enemies mad and may wrest some small concessions so it’s fun. Let’s just enjoy the moment.

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      I’d rather struggle against ruling class representatives who are willing to negotiate to some extent, instead of ones who want to throw us all out of helicopters. I haven’t been this close to engaging in (national) electoral politics since Bernie. Which means the controlled opposition is doing its job very well, kudos

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    lathe-of-heaven There will be widespread vandalism on their yard signs to be some variation of Harry’s or Harriest Balz. The media will try to spin this as misogyny

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      Well, misogyny is pretty fundamental to capitalism, and therefore the US. The only spin the media is making is that misogyny is some special conservative problem and not a liberal problem too.

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    Hmm, they’re actually trying to win and it seems like Trump is kinda floundering currently. 3 months left but it’s looking up for Kamala. power-stride

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    What the White House needs right now is a nice heavy pair of Harri(s) Walz