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On one hand, the gameplay doesn’t usually change so drastically that a new version matters too much.
On the other, if they did dramatically change up the gameplay it might suck.
So even though they have a decent track record and I love Civilization, I would never pre-order or buy day 1. I’ll wait and see if it’s actually worth getting. I will also say, in my experience, like 90% of games that used Denovu have not been good in the first place. I can name only 1 I thought was worth its cost, and I only got it after they removed the DRM.
Judging from the gameplay reveals it seems that they changed some pretty fundamental stuff that makes CIV, CIV. So it will be interesting to see what it’s like.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there it vanishes from my Wishlist. Thought after Civ 5 it might be actually something potentially worth buying, but nope. Removing the Launchers just to add Denuvo… What an absolute dumbass move.
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With what?
A DRM that usually adds annoyances to the end consumer so that the developers don’t have to worry about their IP getting pirated for a few months to years.
Then the pirated version still slows your system down because it bundles a crypto miner
There hasn’t been a need for a new Civ since IV so I already wasn’t gonna buy it, but now I’m gonna not buy it even harder.
Yeah… Civ 1, 2, 3, and 4 were all good - for different reasons. Civ 5 was where the design decisions stopped being about gameplay and started being about maximising profit. Making the game functional and fun was lower priority to making paid DLC. Players buy the buggy and unfinished game… then pay more to fix it piecemeal with the DLC. Such is the power of brands and advertising.
I play freeciv (an open source civ 3.5 clone) much more often than civ 5 which I bought. I’ll agree with you. Newer civ isn’t all that attractive.
Civ 6 seems kind of dumbed down to me from previous versions. Besides, I’ve been having more fun with Crusader Kings 3 lately.
And the excitement I had has gone. Removed from wish list and added to ignore list.
I’ve also removed from my wish list - hopefully they reverse the decision and I can add it back.
Thou Shall Not Preorder
Good. Preordering games is the dumbest fucking concept. People need to stop doing this.
But what if they run out of digital copies?
But what if they offer a limited edition Gandhi skin
Was looking forward to buying this on release day, but won’t if it has that bullshit.
Ha ha ha…no
I don’t like DRM on principle, but I have not noticed any issue with Denuvo and I have never seen any of my friends say anything either. The way people on Reddit and Lemmy act make me think I’m in the minority. What issue do people see that I’m completely oblivious to?
Many games launch with improper implementations, causing problems. Is not denuvos fault but it is one more thing to go wrong
Resources used for implementing denuvo and funds for ongoing support take away from the game development itself creating the possibility of less of a game. Denuvo is a subscription, so companies have to keep paying for it. Now they have to charge more for DLC to recover those costs. In both situations, the gamers suffer more than the companies.
DRM in general means you can’t own that thing. Steam is easily cracked if steam went out of business but firaxis or denuvo? If they go under without patching the game then it’s dead forever.
I don’t know if anyone has done a study on denuvos effect on game sales, but there have been many studies on piracy itself that show not only does piracy not steal sales, it helps promote good games through word of mouth and the demo->purchase pipeline where users want online features after trying the game. Bad games don’t get any boost but i think civ7 is safe there.
I don’t know why my brain just forgot about ownership/preservation, that really is huge deal. Thank you for educating me.
I’m gonna wait for the platinum ultimate mega collector’s anthology edition at a 90% discount after 7 years.
I’m still only on turn 270 in my first Civ3 game, don’t have time for a newer version, Ghandi’s bombers have almost all finished moving this month.
Ghandi must be taking it easy on you.
Oh. Well I was excited about Civ 7 right until this moment.
Anti-tamper = no mods worth your time = only worth playing a handful of times. Also may have trouble working on Linux.
Hahaha no.
That’s one way to get people to turn to piracy.
Most denuvo games don’t get cracked.
That was true for a little while around 2016 I think. If it’s temporarily true again now I don’t expect it’ll last very far into the lifetime of a civ game.
Maybe, maybe not. HiFi Rush hasn’t been cracked, even after Microsoft became theevillain of the week for the whole internet, because they closed down Tango Gameworks.
Empress was the only denuvo cracker, and she’s gone.
She’s actually not gone. She’s just picky with what games she cracks.
Nah man, she’s gone. She hasn’t cracked anything in over a year, and the “one game” she’d be interested in cracking she won’t crack?
Until she actually releases a new crack, I’m not going to believe that post was even actually from her. Either that or it is her and she’s unable to crack the newest denuvo and is blustering to keep her cults attention.
Fair enough!
Is that really true? I guess I’m not up to date enough, but I think most modern games make their way to the modern seas.
It’s true. There was only one person willing and capable of cracking denuvo, and they’ve been a total ghost for a year now. Possibly a literal ghost now, considering they’re Russian.
DOA
Civ 7: “No more turns” living up to the name
