• @[email protected]
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    188 months ago

    Yet more proof that Apple has ceased to be an innovator that adds features to phones and now takes things away and leaves it to fans to make up justifications for it.

    • @[email protected]
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      48 months ago

      Removing things is also innovation

      Or do you still miss the VGA connector? A floppy disk drive? DVD drive in a laptop?

      • @[email protected]
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        18 months ago

        I still use most of these regularly, because I don’t waste money on anti-green Apple products.

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        18 months ago

        Those were replaced with better tech that did the exact same thing. VGA - DVI - HDMI - Display Port.

        I don’t know about you, but I still have one DVD hooked up. Because I have the option to. Not because the motherboard maker took away all the SATA ports and told me I had to buy a special proprietary dongle or plug to fit the replacement.

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          18 months ago

          Multiple people were really angry when VGA ports disappeared, the amount of shitty corporate projectors with only VGA connectors was staggering and we had to resort to using adapters (“dongles”) for a long time until all of them were replaced with HDMI capable ones

  • @[email protected]
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    88 months ago

    2030: After headphone jacks, Apple removes USB-C charging ports in favor of wireless charging.

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    18 months ago

    Ok, let’s be real here. A charger can last a decade even if the charging speed slows…a cord will not outlast a phone. If it does, there’s a serious issue

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      8 months ago

      I see you’ve been using apple cables. Other cables will absolutely last ten years or more.

        • @[email protected]
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          18 months ago

          Huh, you’re right. I didn’t know about that. From Wikipedia:

          The Chinese startup claims to have the miniature device in the pilot testing stage. Unveiled in January 2024, it is allegedly generating 100 microwatts of power and a voltage of 3V and has a lifetime of 50 years without any need for charging or maintenance.

          Wonder if it microwaves your balls when it’s in your pocket too.

          Either way we can dream of a future where we never have to plug in to charge again.

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            28 months ago

            It’s old tech actually. They use it in pacemakers because it’s too difficult to replace or recharge the batteries. I guess you could do wireless charging now, but would you feel much safer with a lithium battery inside of you without a good cooling system? The body’s internal temperature is surprisingly warm when you start doing the engineering.

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      8 months ago

      No, it’s just that our energy is directed at the US election, and that’s not relevant to this community.

      We’ll get back to our normal tech angst sometime after November.

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      48 months ago

      I just don’t like how Apple spreads corporate bullshit like how they claim they do this to be more “green”

  • @[email protected]
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    48 months ago

    I’ve already got a charger for every room of the house and every vehicle I drive, so I’m don’t really care about that, but I’d be peeved if I didn’t even get a cable.

  • azuth
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    628 months ago

    As long as a standard “unblessed” usb-c cable will work fully with the phone it’s non-issue.

    • @[email protected]
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      128 months ago

      I don’t get why even use their “blessed” hardware.

      When I was at school, a few things made me want it:

      1. Apple was still kinda fine back then, playing nice with FOSS community;

      2. I had good memories from using QuickTime under Windows 2000;

      3. I’ve been Jobswashed by a few books for kids saying how innovative he was;

      4. I had a PSP, it was really cool to use for listening to music, playing games, reading books in the Web (over wi-fi) and even Skype, and I thought iPhones seem kinda similar;

      5. I was possessed by imitated (was bored, wanted to feel something real and heroic) romantic feelings and real (bright hair, greenish-gray eyes, warm smile, subtle voice, and at that moment she seemed intelligent and nice ; turned out not as honest though) sexual desire of one girl who had an iPhone, a perfect product placement, one can say;

      6. Apple’s UIs back then seemed very usable, only later I actually tried them and realized that even Windows makes me less furious;

      7. It still wasn’t today’s Apple, they seemed trustworthy.

      None of this applies today.

      • Encrypt-Keeper
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        68 months ago

        Because you’re getting a product that you know isn’t a cheap knockoff that will burn your house down, and you know it will charge your phone at the fastest speed it’s capable of.

        You can of course get the same experience buying third party, but then you have to spend time doing research on which one to buy for your device, and the reputable third party brands can cost just as much as the Apple ones anyway.

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          38 months ago

          and you know it will charge your phone at the fastest speed it’s capable of

          Are you really advocating for buying an Apple-branded USB-C cable?

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            Yeah, why not? A quick look at Best Buy and I can see that the Apple USB-C cable is $15.99 and the cheapest reputable third party USB-charger is $13.99. You save a whopping $2.

            So if you’re a deal-oriented shopper you’re probably not even going to buy from a reputable third party, you’ll probably go with the $6 one from the gas station of dubious quality. And you’ll probably be fine. Or maybe after 3 months it causes a short and burns your house down. Best $10 you ever saved.

            Or you can take literally all of the guesswork out of it and just go with whatever manufacturers cable, spend the extra $10 on a cable that will last you years. The point isn’t buying something Apple branded, they don’t even brand it physically. The point is to just buy something guaranteed to work.

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              I can get a Anker 2 pack 6 feet USB-C cable for $11 lol. Why in Christ’s name should I buy an Apple-branded cable?

              But then again, I don’t have anything from Apple, so moot point I guess

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                18 months ago

                If you can get a much better deal on a Belkin or Anker cable or anything you know is a decent brand then I’d say go for it. You don’t NEED an Apple cable. It’s just a fool proof way to get a cable that you know will work well.

                • @[email protected]
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                  18 months ago

                  Well, thx, but I already have a couple of noname Chinese cables with braided cover (to avoid breaking) which seem to be as good as anything else I’ve touched, and were kinda cheap.

                  No strategy was involved in buying them, though, so I’ll remember you advice.

      • aard
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        108 months ago

        One exception nowadays: Business notebooks - and that’s only because the rest of the notebook market went to shit. If you want a somewhat compact notebook with more than 64GB of RAM, decent CPU performance and good battery life Apple currently is the only one offering something.

        • @[email protected]
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          78 months ago

          A lot of people say that you can get X laptop with similar specs for $600 or whatever. But they usually have shit screens or are made from cheap plastic.

          I still think Apple is a bit expensive, but a comparable windows laptop is not too much cheaper in most cases.

          • @[email protected]
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            38 months ago

            Yeah it’s the package. The semi broken entryspec mbp from 2015 I got to repair and keep has a mousepad that is at least on par with my current 2 yo high tier thinkpad. Now take a laptop from that era and the difference becomes more noticeable.

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            58 months ago

            Screen is another thing - but I can live with that, mostly - it’s a bit hard to find x86 notebooks with decent resolution (not talking retina style, just better than “1080p on a 14 inch display”). And while the screen itself is nice on the apples I’d prefer a lower resolution one if I can get a matte screen instead.

            But fact is that nobody wants to sell you a proper x86 notebook. It’s almost impossible to find something with more than 32GB of RAM, and while there are a few with more than 64GB they’re all xeon based monsters larger than 16", as far as I can tell can’t really be ordered, and have a price tag equal or larger to a full spec 14" mac book pro. And obviously you can’t really think about battery life with intels space heaters.

            It’s especially sad as current mobile Ryzen CPUs could very well compete with Apples ARM CPUs - the one thing Apple is better at is the absolute low power state, as soon as it has too actually do something the power (and TDP) curve is very close to mobile Ryzen. But pretty much every manufacturer fucks up the thermal design, or gimps it in other ways.

              • @[email protected]
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                28 months ago

                Lots of chrome, 1 VM with 8 gigs of ram. I was using > 28 gigs of ram on my old laptop so when I got my new one I made sure to get 64.

              • @[email protected]
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                28 months ago

                Not the person you responded to, but my m1 max macbook pro is used to dry run changes to my kubernetes cluster by running 4 virtual machines and networking them. My previous pc could pull it off fine, but my macbook can run a virtual cluster for hours on battery.

                Because of the unified memory, you can use all of your ram as video ram for the purposes of running a massive LLM if you want local AI. there’s a plugin I run for VScode that emulates github copilot but runs entirely on device and offline.

                Apple’s ARM implementation is really nice for getting a lot of specific work done. Mine spends most workdays docked and being used as my primary workstation.

        • @[email protected]
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          18 months ago

          It’s just hard to trust them. So - buying an Apple laptop to install Linux there? Doesn’t seem to make much sense, though Linus Torvalds seems to be of a different opinion.

  • @[email protected]
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    308 months ago

    Now, Apple might argue that they’re being environmentally conscious by reducing packaging waste. That’s a fair point,

    It isn’t… That’s like not flushing the toilet in a public bathroom to “save water”

    • @[email protected]
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      78 months ago

      Flushing two toilets because there is all the packaging and shipping for the separate apple branded cables.

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    They are a huge tech company. They should have a checkbox in the checkout flow that lets you add a free cable if you need one.