Mine is when a lib says that a socialist leader is filthy rich because le ebil dictator owns literally everything in the country.
Calling you a “single issue voter” when that issue is genocide.
Calling third party voters “single issue voters” when their main objection to third party voting is that they are extremely unlikely to win. “Likelihood to win” isn’t an issue I care about but that seems to be the biggest issue to them. A singular issue, one might say.
“The fact that you can criticize the government proves that we live in a democracy!” (especially funny when it happens on self-hosted fedi platforms deliberately operated in third-party jurisdictions due to censorship on Silicon Valley platforms).
Reminds me of that joke where the CIA agent says to the KGB agent “Here in America we’re free to criticize our leaders. I can call Ronald Reagan a bastard and face no state persecution.” And the KGB agent says “In the USSR we can also call Ronald Reagan a bastard without state persecution.”
It was worded a lot better when I saw it, but I forget the exact joke.
It’s especially funny because they can turn around and make the “CIA excellence in journalism award” joke to refer to journalists said government killed, all without a trace of awareness
If it were a democracy wouldn’t those criticisms be able to amount to more than nothing in terms of policy?
I like pointing out that calling Mitch McConnell a turtle ten billion times hasn’t removed him from power.
I think mine is “socialism might work in theory but it’s never worked in the real world.” Like, motherfucker, tell me how infinite growth with limited resources is supposed to work in the real world. Because that’s your fucking “theory”. And regarding socialist theory, please enlighten me on what all you know about socialist theory, since you know it “only works in theory”.
Theory.
THEORY.
GAHHHHHHH.
“the system just needs some better rules!”
Rules-reformism is the final stage of liberal cognitive dissonance to the horrors-of-the-empire bargaining stage in my experience.
They either recognize that these reforms are intentional structural impossibilities then logically actually move towards some form of anticapitalist thought or disengage entirely if they’re privileged enough to shrug it off. I’ve struggled helping friends at this point make the final step. It’s extremely difficult to achieve in the imperial core which can be incredibly disheartening.
Anytime they bring up “culture” to explain why the global south struggles
Always press these people on what aspects of culture and within 3 replies you’ll have them showing their entire ass.
It’s worse with claims about how you can’t trust anything out of China. What makes the Chinese less trustworthy? Tell me, honkey.
these people would 100% have said something racist if the conversation climate was different. using “culture” as a blanket term, and dividing the world into big cultural groups, is almost always a dogwhistle
Something something corruption and warlords
“You’re one of them gays aintcha? [insert resistance movement/socialist state/ect here] would kill you for that dontcha know?”
It feels like the people who say things like that are deeply queerphobic and they would be would be utterly delighted to see LGBT+ people dealt with of in such a way. I don’t think they would bring it up otherwise.
Mine is a statement that takes many forms but usually boils down to the exact same mindset – namely that the current “villain of the week” is always assumed to be the most primitive simpleton imaginable.
It’s not even limited to leaders of foreign countries. Somehow, liberals are incapable of attributing any strategic ability to their enemies.
For example, they will see a corporation get into a legal fight, where it is quite clear that the corporation is morally in the wrong, and they will immediately claim the corporation is going to lose because of some supposed foolishness by the corporation.
If you ask them about their reasoning, it usually becomes clear that they are actually completely clueless about the topic. Confusing patent, copyright and trademark law is a classic in this area.
But they just can’t imagine that these corporations, who regularly exploit the system to their advantage, and have highly paid teams of lawyers doing this for them, might know what they are doing, and might very well succeed.
Maybe it’s because even the acknowledgement of this possibility is already interpreted as support for the villain. You can’t claim that the Russians aren’t losing, because if you do, you must obviously support Russia.
Liberals would rather delude themselves with boundless hubris than correctly assess the situation.
“Look, I’m as left as they come, but…” proceeds to deliver a take that Reagan would’ve thought was a little much
it’s especially funny because it happens a lot on sites w/ a public post history. like, i think
libs are largely why looking at someone’s history was perceived as such a grave offense. like, you wouldn’t know a leftist if there were a dozen squatting at your place, the only person you’re deceiving is yourself 
Cut them off and say they absolutely aren’t.
I’m a staunch pacifist and also 100% behind helping Ukraine.
Co-opting of pacifism is peak liberalism, it’s such a blatant example of liberals trying to paint themselves as “peace-loving” while being imperialists and accepting none of the flak that actual pacifists receive, and even readily engaging in that flak. “Oh, but I only support defensive wars,” motherfucker, it’s called the “department of defense” because every fucking side in every fucking war post-Ghengis Khan always frames themselves as “defending.” If you accept that you can still be a pacifist while saying war is acceptable if you believe it furthers the aim of peace, then you could be a full blown neocon and still call yourself a pacifist.
Actual pacifists may be cranks, but I have some respect for them for having actual principles that they will stand by even if it means incurring a personal cost. Liberals want to steal valor(?) for their own self-aggrandizement while believing in nothing and sacrificing nothing. And that’s not even getting into, “I’m a pacifist, so I just got out of the situation and called the cops.”
While we are at it you aren’t a pacifist if you don’t support police abolition. You aren’t opposing violence if you are too cowardly to do it yourself but support the state doing it on your behalf.
Wow. That lib is an expert in cognitive dissonance.
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You can pressure democrats left after voting for them unconditionally
I mean you can but it’s just not effective.
What is their incentive to listen to you if you make it clear you’ll vote for them unconditionally
Most are terrified of their constituents. If there are mass protests and people pressuring constantly they will listen even if this vote was unconditional.
But this is why they work so hard to keep us just poor enough we can’t afford to revolt but not so poor that we have nothing left to lose.
Like I said ineffective but not impossible.
I feel like the systemic response to BLM completely negates your assertion. If mass riots don’t get even token police reform as a result, then it’s pretty clear that our leaders don’t give a shit about anything short of someone putting a gun to their head.
Compare the civil rights movement vs BLM movement. That was not sustained protesting, it was not constant and real pressure. It was a flash in the pan, and worse, it showed that the citizens of the US dont have the stomach to do it for real again.
Until we are willing to disrupt the whole economy, and shut down suburban white America, approximately jack all will be done.
I think if anything BLM proves my point because the fascists actually had to show up and use violence and false flags to try to subvert the success that was happening. If BLM had gone on longer and wider I really think congress would have shit a collective brick because o shit were they terrified.
Hey the NYPD created that discipline matrix in response to it to hold cops accountable. Why yes it is in the news recently because that corrupt police chief just weakened it, why yes he has already weakened it before and yes Garcetti had whined about how unfair it was and weakened it already before that, and yes both of them are alleged to have ignored it and let cops get away with things on the matrix.
Oh Hrm forget I said anything
They’re terrified of their electorate not voting for them. If everyone has already committed to voting for them regardless there’s no leverage to exert pressure
Idk but recently my favorite is the person that is losing their shit about getting banned from c/games and for some reason tried to complain about Russia and the news mega in the same post.
WHY DOES EVERYONE CRITICIZE BIDEO BAME I COULD CARE LESS WHICH IS WHY I HAD A MELTDOWN ABOUT BIBEO BAME
any rambling paranoia about russia tbh
its just stupid and im sick of it
There is a Russian propaganda in my closet
a socialist leader is filthy rich because le ebil dictator owns literally everything in the country.
I like to hit em with this graph when they try to suggest socialist governments are new boss same as the old boss.
Liberals will trot out decades old propaganda as gospel, not realizing that their unwavering, unshakeable belief in this dogma is precisely the reason why they are incapable of changing the system in which they live, and in which they, their friends and their families suffer.
They are fundamentally incapable of identifying the sources of their problems because of this. If you base your logical calculus on contradictory axioms, nothing will make sense as a result.
Mine is every variety (and there are many) of “you can’t have (society improving somewhat) because that’s not how things work, sweetie. This is the grown-ass adult world where (society improving somewhat) can’t happen because (sophistry here).”
Where did the pics of those libs in the emoji come from? I’ve seen it used a lot but don’t recognize the people in it.
No idea, but back where I came from, a lot of liberals looked just like that.
the guy on the left is lin manuel miranda and given the cringe he posts i imagine its taken straight from his twitter account, but idk who the other guy is
