• @pyre@lemmy.world
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    1199 months ago

    “no real kids”

    “no real bills”

    🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

    the fact that he added “real” to both means she has them but he somehow doesn’t consider them real, whatever the fuck that means. but this sounds like a total piece of shit and i feel sorry for the 24 year old.

    nothing like ruining the economy and the future for the next generation and then refusing to help.

    • @undergroundoverground@lemmy.world
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      “Can you describe the nature of the unrealness of these bills, as its own thing and not as the absence of something else?”

      Just thought the dissection of that particular “weasel word” might help someone out there at some point.

      “Brandy made in Germany isn’t “real” cognac. The nature of the unrealness is that it was made in Germany and not the cognac region of France.”

      You may disagree but my point here is, right or wrong, you can always describe the nature of the unrealness, unless its being used as a cheap, underhanded rhetorical device.

    • @Showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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      79 months ago

      I think everyone is misunderstanding the “kids” part.

      The daughter is a teacher, meaning she has “kids” (i.e. in her classroom), but not “real kids”, as in, kids of her own. A strange way of saying it, but I’m sure that’s what she meant.

      The no real bills part… that could mean anything. If she’s living with her folks and doesn’t have to pay rent, utilities, etc., then I can understand how a request like that could be taken poorly by the mother.

      Still, posting it on social media is Karen-like behaviour.

    • @Ostrakon@lemmy.world
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      I’m guessing the kids comment was about pets. ‘No real bills’ I’m guessing she still lives at home and pays some token amount towards rent/utilities.

      We can speculate all we like, but I could see this going either way, and I’d be frustrated if my 24 year old couldn’t support themselves too.

      • @Eiri@lemmy.ca
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        I mean she’s a teacher. A very hard job with lots of unpaid work that often offers downright sad wages.

        Being unable to support oneself despite a full-time job is a more and more common thing in our world.

      • @DillyDaily@lemmy.world
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        My cousin is a coparent in a polycule of 3, but she is not the biological parent of their children, she is the default parent though, as she is a SAHM and the other parents work. They’ve been together for 23 years.

        Half my family acts like she doesn’t have any children, and that she’s some sad single live in nanny. They will ask her how her “room mates and their kids” are going, even if the “room mate” is standing next to her with his hand on her arse and has just finished telling a story about how in love they are.

        My dad is also thinks I have “no real bills” because I don’t have a mortgage. He says rent isn’t a real bill because it’s not like the bank will take my house if I don’t pay. History opinion on evictions is “that not the same, because you can get a new place to rent that night, you can’t buy a new house in a day”

        My rent is 6x more than his mortgage and I don’t know anyone who could get approved for a rental the same day they get evicted for not paying rent, but sure dad, I’m rolling in expendable income over here.

        Some families are weird about denying how their relatives live.

        But it could also be that she calls her cat “her baby” and lives at home with only personal bills.

      • @pyre@lemmy.world
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        29 months ago

        i feel like if he’s frustrated about his kid and she only has pets he’d just say no kids. but people are weird with animals so who knows.

      • @fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de
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        I’d expect ‘no real bills’ to include rent for their own apartment (because the parent doesn’t get how much it costs nowadays), but no car bills for example.

  • Phoenixz
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    139 months ago

    To be fair… On the one hand, publicly complaining about the upbringing of your own daughter is just bad, but on the other…

    When you’re 24 years old with your own (presumedly good) income and you want a non critical operation done, shouldn’t you try and finance that yourself?

    • @uis@lemm.ee
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      139 months ago

      Shouldn’t goverment finance healthcare?

      Wait, wrong country.

      Finace yourself? In this economy?!

      • Phoenixz
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        Government should do that fully, even lasik, in my opinion, but this is the US, so yeah.

        I just tried to make the argument that the woman has a point, at that age you should show some responsibility for your own life

      • Tar_Alcaran
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        Shouldn’t goverment finance healthcare?

        Are there any countries where LASIK is covered?

    • @Crashumbc@lemmy.world
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      169 months ago

      Yeah there are a lot of possible nuances here.

      LASIK can be optional, but there are a lot of situations where it can make a huge difference depending on her eyesight issues.

      Teacher salary is NOT good in most places. And at 24 she’s entry level. Could be making less than enough to really live on, depending on CoL in her area.

      • @saruwatarikooji@lemmy.world
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        Add in that as a teacher she likely has student loans to pay on… At least until she can get through the system and get on the public service repayment option. I think they were trying to improve it but last time I tried to get on it the system was less than ideal to work with

  • @trumpetmouth@lemmy.world
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    Dammit Mom, my 56 imaginary kids cost me nearly my ENTIRE paycheck! Have some sympathy.

    But for real, what is “real kids?”

    • @yuri@pawb.social
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      because she’s a teacher she probably pays out of pocket for school/project supplies. i’ve known a good few teachers, and refereeing to students as sort-of surrogate children is very common. i’d put my money on the mom hassling the daughter about not yet having kids, and the daughter saying something like “i already have kids!” and this idiot is still bitter about it because she feels she is OWED grandchildren.

      i’m making a LOT of assumptions here, but like i said i WOULD put money on it. you hear enough firsthand stories and you start making these sort of assumptions.

      • @djsoren19@yiffit.net
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        69 months ago

        Yeah, I’ve met so, so many of these kinds of parents through my job, and you can reliably predict their behavior just by wondering “what’s the most selfish and entitled action they could take here?”

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    Someone tell them “i think i raised an entitled shit” isn’t the pwn they think it is

  • @Matriks404@lemmy.world
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    179 months ago

    Am I the only one who lives with their parent and helps paying bills? I am asking, because some people seem to be surprised that my father forces me to pay for the living in his house, but the truth is I don’t mind that, and I’d rather not be a freeloader.

    • @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      79 months ago

      It’s situational, but you’re not the only one.

      I lived with my dad for many years because he slowly lost the ability to take care of himself. My brother and I were there to handle whatever he needed and since I was working full time, I’d cover bills when it was required, either because he forgot or because he was struggling.

      We eventually made the decision to have him moved to a care facility where he could get the care he needed, and far better care than we could hope to provide. He’s passed on now, but it happens. That was a crazy time in my life. Now I live independently.

      For the record, I’m over 40 now, and I’m the youngest of his children. He died a few years back at this point.

    • Coriza
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      I think It is fair that the members of a family, that are a community living together or not, all share in the burdens of life so it is easier for everyone. But if the parents are like forcing you to pay rent, then I would just live somewhere else.

      Put in another way. It is fine if you have an adult children to say “hey, help out anyway you can so it is easier to everyone” and if they cannot figure out how to do that or they are like stuck and not progressing in life then instead of an ultimatum of “pay rent” better is a “I think you need the experience of living on your own”. Again I am all for money staying in the family and much prefer that or even better they saving money to buy a place than paying rent to some shitty landlord. But anyway.

    • @bitchkat@lemmy.world
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      79 months ago

      Setting an appropriate amount of contribution is between you and your dad. There is no wrong way except if a child truly needs a roof to sleep under and they aren’t a complete fuck up.

    • @Showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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      I mean, if you’re an adult with an income and living with anyone else (parents, roommate, etc.), you really should be helping with the upkeep of the place and bills. As well as paying for your own food, phone bill, etc.

      “Forcing you to pay” sounds harsh without context. You’d have to pay rent to live anywhere else, right? Perhaps, “expected to pay” seems more logical… assuming you’re an adult with an income.

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      If your parents want you to pay rent, while at the same time complaining that you still live with them(which is often the situation), they can charitably be called dumbfucks.

      • @Croquette@sh.itjust.works
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        I understand the need to privacy as people get older, but if my kids want to stay with me for a long period of their life, I will be pleased to have them with me as long as they like.

      • @IMongoose@lemmy.world
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        I really subscribe to the idea of the kid helping on bills + a little extra and the parent saving as much as they financially can of that into an account and giving it to their kid as a moving away gift.

        But yes, I think you are more talking about having the kid pay market price to live at home which is fucked.

    • @alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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      She’s a teacher, so she has kids that aren’t hers, and probably pays her phone bill and auto loan and student debt (and possibly rent to her shitty parents). Those parents of course don’t consider those real bills.

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        It’s worse when you consider that “real bills”, ie a mortgage, is probably out of her reach while he had it easy.

        He’s mocking his own daughter, when she probably got absolutely fucked by corruption and the economy, for not having the opportunity to indebt herself for housing, when he probably bought his house on a potato salary.

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        And I’d bet “real bills” are only bills that the parent deems worthy — mortgage, car payment, etc. I’m guessing teacher pays rent, utilities, pays for groceries…

        • @ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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          Nah. Rent and utilities are definitely counted as real bills by everyone. She probably lives at home, or at someone else’s house and just pays like $400 a month to stay there.

  • fatboy93
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    The fuck does no real bills mean? Does eating, rent and gas/insurance not count as real bill?

      • @PancakeBrock@lemmy.zip
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        29 months ago

        I got a pair of prescription glasses and sun glasses from Payne glasses for $80. I stopped wearing contacts a few years ago, and I work outside. I really missed having sun glasses.

      • Yep! You just get a prescription from the eye doctor and enter the values on the site. 20 bucks later and boom you have some very reliable and inexpensive glasses. I’ve been using these guys for years and had basically zero issues.

      • ɠισƚԋҽϝʅσɯ
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        Yep, also need your pupillary distance. i havent gotten an exam in so long i cant remember if thats included in the prescript. Luckily my eyesight hasnt gotten worse (yet).

        Wearing my 26 dollar photochromic zennis for this comment. Been using zenni glasses for the better part of a decade.

        • @Mushroomm@sh.itjust.works
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          It’s not usually but you can print out the little gauge thing or use their in browser tool if you have a Webcam and don’t mind your face being scanned by a discount glasses company in the decade of machine learning we’re about to go through

    • @Showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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      From what I remember, $20 gets you a premium pair! I was getting glasses from Zenni and others for <$10.

      If the daughter is looking at Lasik, it’s not out of necessity.

  • @Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world
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    159 months ago

    This is bad form all around… like, yeah, be a parent and love your kids more than yourself.

    Even if you are incapable of that, at least be smart enough to not be shitty to the people who will pick your nursing home.

    • @niktemadur@lemmy.world
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      If it happens, the following sentiment, a few decades down the road:

      “Look at this shitty nursing home my daughter shipped me off to. AFTER ALL I’VE DONE FOR HER!”

      And it could even be a good nursing home barely within the means of a son or daughter, suffering from some sort of Stockholm Syndrome sense of duty. The narcissistic, miserable, martyrdom complex is a goddamned guarantee.

  • plz1
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    My daughter that is under-paid because she’s a teacher and they are all under-paid is asking me for financial help, and I’m a scumbag outing her for trying to have a better quality of life with a medical procedure early in her working career.

    Man, I hate the internet sometimes…

  • @houstoneulers@lemmy.world
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    159 months ago

    Sad b/c teachers really don’t get rewarded monetarily enough, and OOP is acting like that’s some kinda lucrative career that would provide enough even for that.

  • @brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    Why would people want to be on Twitter for posts like this?

    It’s like joining a real life club where the more of a jerk you are, the more speaking time you get.

    • @uienia@lemmy.world
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      79 months ago

      Fuck of with that stupid generationism. This is narcissism, a mental illness which exists in people of all ages.

      Generationism is something that is made up to make people forget about the actual structural problems in society.

    • @AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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      Can confirm from the tail end of Gen X. There were some total cunts that called themselves neo-conservatives that I went to a Liberal Arts College, called Transylvania University with. One would have thought they would have taken even a cursory look at that school and declared it part of “The Leftist Elite,” but they still ended up there somehow.

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        No no no, you don’t understand! Liberal Arts colleges are infested with leftist agents and propaganda, and one could never gain anything of value studying there!

        Unless, of course, you’re a conservative man who studied economics there; then, your education makes you knowledgable and impressive. Of course, of course…

        • @AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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          Ok, but Transylvania University? Like even if you have any clue as to why a liberal arts university in Lexington, KY is called that, you have to know that some pretty weird people are going to be attracted to the name alone. Rocky Horror Picture Show fans, Vampire fans of a holy shit spectrum from Bram Stoker all the way to Anne Rice, while I was there. Not to mention artistic freaks of every single sort. I really don’t know what they were thinking.

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            Fair enough, my sentiment was towards liberal arts schools in general. Transylvania University is quite a name.