Making water into wine was not something all that special, it used to basically be like a concentrate that you would then add to water to consume. Shoutout to the history of Rome podcast. So he could make more and more deluted wine with more water but it wouldn’t become more concentrated.
this sounds sketchy - distillation wasn’t invented until well after the Roman era. how?
https://santoriniwinetour.com/why-did-the-ancient-greeks-drink-watered-down-wine/
I guess not explicitly a concentrate but I was trying to allude the fact it was used in a similar way.
Which podcast is that? You piqued my interest, but there seem to be a lot of podcasts about the history of Rome.
“The history of Rome podcast” is literally the name.
I may have found it. Cheers!
Water + Jesus = Wine
Wine + Jesus = Brandy
Brandy + Jesus = Twice-distilled Brandy? Cooking sherry? Idk
That next beverage is know as “sweet baby Jesus”
I choose to believe at this point, Jesus got so drunk he forgot to try it a third time.
Is this really the blood of Christ? Man that guy must have been wasted 24/7
bro do you got any snacks to go with this
All I can offer is some fish and bread.
It’s all you can eat though, so there’s that
You can have one tasteless cracker.
He’s 30 years old, still lived with his parents, and spent all day hanging out with his twelve dude bros in a time before XBox existed.
Of course he was fucking hammered all day.
I think he ended up being Rasputin and invented vodka
Mmmm pass me more of that wine powder
Wouldn’t it be an alcoholic paste?
If he indeed turned water into wine and made all things, why would he need to recurse as if he can’t get it right the first time?
because he works in mysterious ways of course.
The question isn’t why but if. Also how do we know that He didn’t?
You just have to find another bodily fluid with the same color as the target alcohol.
Jesus told me it doesn’t have to be alcohol. He once turned piss into Mtn Dew. I’ve only ever done the opposite.
So if I’m looking for Baileys…
That about as close to Baileys as I can get without getting my eyes wet
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No it is impossible for God to do that.
Can God create a brandy so concentrated he can’t drink it?
Yeah, I rolled a d20 and can confirm. Wow, critical miss!
"And on the third day, there was a wedding in Cana. Jesus’ mother was there. When the wine was drunk, Jesus’ mother said to him, ‘We’re out of wine.’ ‘Bruh… That’s a big yikes. But why do I care?’, replied Jesus.
Jesus mother instructed the servants, ‘you just do whatever he tells you no matter how stupid it sounds.’ Jesus sighed and turned to the servants saying, ’ Okay. You see those jars? Nope. Not that one. The big ones. Yeah. Those big ones over there. Go fill them up with water. All the way up. Then take some of the water and give it to the host."
The servants were more than a little skeptical but shrugged and did as they were told. When the host of the wedding feast tasted the water, it had become wine. And the host exclaimed, “Damn! That is some good shit. Where did you get that from?” And the servants were amazed because they knew from where the wine came.
And the servants implored Jesus, 'Do it again! No, wait. Can you make something stronger this time?"
– The Gospel According to [Skibidi] John
Is this that gen z bible paraphrase
Only if he concentrates
Take your upvote and get out.
I want to make a pun but I still can’t figure one out.
No, because then the ATF will show up and shoot him.
Certainly any dogs nearby RIP
I mean, given that Jesús would not only be a brown hippie moonshiner, but also probably a damn Mexican furriner to boot, he’d be lucky if they didn’t lay siege to the whole neighborhood, Waco-style.
In the Bible they wanted to kill him many times but he always slipped away. He wasn’t arrested until he gave himself to the authorities. The ATF wouldn’t catch him if he didn’t want to be caught. But I’m sure they’d destroy lots of people, animals and property regardless.
It already exists. It’s called “Brandy.” Reading more than watching videos helps.
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Yes. The power to do literally anything would allow one to do this.
Can he create a stone that is not liftable and then proceed to lift it?
Unironically the question by witch many Christian faiths differ: does God needs abide to the rules of logic or not?
For the Roman Catholic, yes, for Calvinists and a bunch other (ok, many other but I’m not an expert), no.
Calvanists the ones that say since god is all powerful there can be no free will/everything is decided don’t apply logic?
That’s the one, funnily enough in a perverted twist, they tend to see wealth as a sign that God has picked them as favourites (graced them) and they storically gravitated toward seeing poor people as, well, sinners, even thought their principles state that anyone could be graced or not no matter the more evident aspects of life.
This isn’t Calvinism. This is prosperity theology, which is it’s own thing.
Ah theologians. When we invented agriculture so that not everyone had to work on gathering food, this enabled some of us to specialize in advanced skills. But theology, wow. What a waste of time. Get those dudes out in the fields.
There’s a reason the French beheaded the clergy alongside the nobility.
Back in the days they were just philosophers aka scientists.
“aka scientists?”
Not sure what that means.
Also known as scientists.
I can understand calling theologians philosophers but being a philosopher does not make you a scientist.
Answer: whatever causes the person you’re arguing with to throw their hands up and storm off more exasperated…
No, not really, it’s mostly a matter of power.
The Church itself is rooted in the idea that there are autorities on matter of faith and they adopted the Platonical Agostinean idea that faith is empowered by reason. Reason being a valid tool means you have experts that reasoned a lot about religion and people that know less and needs to be taught, ultimately by the Pope.
The “other” side tends to reject authorities, and take the words of the bible as sobjected to personal interpretation or, to an extent, make it into some sort of magical object that the faithfull subjects itself to, without questions. Accepting the contradictions, the illogal parts, are what that kind of faith is about because to question (throught reasoning) God is a Sin.
The easiest answer to this is yes, he could create a stone he couldn’t lift. And then he could lift it anyway.
Actually the easiest answer is “no” because it doesn’t require cognitive dissonance.
There’s no cognitive dissonance in negating a false negative
What false negative? If he can lift it then he didn’t create a stone he can’t lift. Can he make one plus one equal anything other than two?
Well Jesus, yes. Because Jesus let Himself die as well.
But then he respawned
Mhm
I interpreted this as “having the basic ability to take as actions would allow you to do this”, which is also true, I can ferment wine and then gradually make it more concentrated
Your comment made me think of this scene from American Dad
Pretty much, and for anyone wondering if God could create a rock he couldn’t lift…
The answer is still yes, and he is then unable to lift the rock, but able to remove the limitation preventing him from lifting the rock at any time.
Kinda like how He let Himself be dead and then removed the limitation by rising again
Correct, he’s God, he can do anyhting in any amount of time and we can perceive it however he chooses.
Late one evening a boy and his father were accosted by a mugger. The traumatic moment unlocked some kind of latent power within the boy. Frantically he tried to intervene, skin touched skin, and the assailant’s blood turned to wine, fatal. But not before the cretin dealt a terminal blow to the father. And that night that boy became the hero we all know, Jesus Christ.
