Has anyone else noticed how prevalent Hexbear posters have suddenly become? Maybe sometime last week I noticed nearly every political post had at least one long thread of Hexbear users that do nothing but repeat CCP talking points while waving anyway anything even remotely reliable as Western propaganda. That or getting all excited about trolled libs. The way they tell it, you’d think everything from DW, to Fox, to Propublica, to straight up AP News articles, are all written by the same people.
Not to mention, their info on the Fediverse observer is either straight up wrong or there’s some serious botting going on. According to that, the instance is less than a month old, yet somehow they already have one of the largest, most active userbases, along with far and away the most comments of any instance.
Seems to me like Lemmygrad on steroids. Considering we defederated from them, seems like a no-brainer to block Hexbear as well.
So glad this thread could become such a perfect microcosm of why we need to defederate.
So glad this thread could become such a perfect microcosm of why we need to defederate.
You asked about us. We came out in force to answer you. Why is that surprising or evidence of anything? We don’t have a downvote feature, so we’re used to responding when we disagree. And of course we’re going to defend ourselves.
Its so funny how you guys became so used to being able to live in an echo chamber of western capitalist propaganda on reddit, then moved here, then had that bubble popped by us and lemmygrad, then became INCREDIBLY DESPERATE to get away from opinions you previously were sheltered from. Its just a funny reaction to witness. Meanwhile, liberalism is something I can never really escape. Because its everywhere. I dont actually have the option to completely unplug.
Anyway, if your instance defeded lemmygrad I have no doubt you’ll get your way with us sooner rather than later.
You are forgetting the massive number of capitalists (and their rube supporters) who self-identify as liberal
Yeah I know they are a funny thing
Do you do anything other than these clumsy deflections?
You’re misreading, buddy!
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Where does MLK fit in there? He may not have literally used lib as a slur, but he wasn’t shy about seeing them as an impediment to progress.
“White moderate” is basically equivalent to what we call a ‘liberal’.
“Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed.”
“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”
“I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits.”
“Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred.”
None of this implies he’s more of a liberal.
Realize that “freedom” isn’t your side’s invention, and what do you have left?
I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizens Councillor or the Ku Klux Klanner but the white moderate who is more devoted to order than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says, “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically feels that he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by the myth of time; and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
Excellent addition 👍
Wait is this generated by a bot? I’d be fascinated to know how your brain works. Can you communicate in full sentences?
The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. But if the enemy of my enemy points out how stupid my enemy is I’m not gonna disagree
We’ve been here for 3 years, before 99% of lemmitors even knew what a Lemmy was. Chapo trap house got banned from reddit, so we made a site here. Our site’s code diverged from og Lemmy so we could add things like pronoun tags, and only recently had been made into a version compatible with federation. We’ve had time to make our own site culture of posting, whereas the rest of lemmitors are fresh off of reddit. Being suspicious of hexbear posting a lot after federation is like being suspicious of water flowing after a dam bursts.
water flowing after a dam bursts
Seriously just click on the profiles of every pisspants liberal complaining about us and the longest they’ve been on the site is usually 2 months.
American tourists rolling in and demanding everything be how they like it.
All that media is owned by capitalists
Some is owned by states owned by capitalist
Reddit is a disinfo network staffed and mediated by intelligence and defense consultants. The accusation that anyone who disagrees with the narrow set of acceptable ideology allowed on reddit is a paid shill is an intended side effect of routine exposure to it.
Its because thats when the federation happened right? no big question we can see the posts now is all
Also, Ive been posting on hexbear for 3 years so from my perspective all of y’all came out of nowhere not us lmao
The way they tell it, you’d think everything from DW, to Fox, to Propublica, to straight up AP News articles, are all written by the same people.
They are, it’s called the capitalist class.
And your information is incorrect, hexbear is one of the oldest Lemmy instances, and we’ve always been among the most active. My account is over 3 years old. It’s just that we only federated recently.
I, for one, welcome our new HexBear overlords!
And we welcome our new peons
We’re not overlords we’re just comrades in arms
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hi comrade we love you fr
Welcome! I love your Super Monkey Ball pfp :) we have one site tag line (a little funny sentence or paragraph at the top of page which changes every time you load) and one of them is shit talking SMB so I hope you don’t get it and get turned off.
and one of them is shit talking SMB so I hope you don’t get it and get turned off.
Oh did I mention I’m also the admin of this instance? DEFED
I have done my home instance a great dishonour
Ah yes, the classic wealthy journalist. Everyone knows that reporting is where the big bucks truly lie. I guess it’s impossible for literally anyone living anywhere but the like 3 countries that pretend to be communist to report on anything accurately.
class is about your relationship to the means of production, not your income
Like have you never had a job before? Like if you’re gonna accuse people of being out of touch, stop buying $10 bananas
Ah yes, the classic wealthy journalist.
Ah yes, the classic wealthy Amazon worker. Everyone knows that having a logistics and retail monopoly is where the big bucks truly lie.
Obviously because the lowest level worker in this industry is not wealthy themselves, it means that suggesting the industry as a whole is both owned and serves the interests of entrenched power and wealth IS BIG DUMB LOL
I’m glad there are liberals like you around to tell us communists who is really communist
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Ah yes, the classic wealthy journalist.
Do the journalists you read personally hand their writings to you? Or is there some intermediary that gets them to you, some wealthy entity that handles the publishing of those writings?
the like 3 countries that pretend to be communist
You sound like an immensely condescending chauvinist. Does Cuba not live up to your very informed view on communism?
who pays the journalists? who sets editorial policy? who prevents the journalists from unionizing?
Who fires them if they disobey orders, and shuts down the whole paper just to prevent competition from the rags they outright own?
Ford Foundation Carnegie Corporation
Lmao you just owned yourself with this link. I love when libs link wikipedia links they havent actually read.
Fair enough, I was wrong about ProPublica.
I’m sure you’ll find this quote from the Wikipedia entry on the Ford Foundation interesting:
“John J. McCloy, the architect of Office of Strategic Services that would later become Central Intelligence Agency served as the chairman of the Ford Foundation.[74] The CIA would channel its funds through Ford Foundation as a part of its covert cultural war.[75][76][77] John J. McCloy, serving as the chairman from 1958–1965, knowingly employed numerous US intelligence agents and, based on the premise that a relationship with the CIA was inevitable, set up a three-person committee responsible for dealing with its requests.[78][79] Writer and activist Arundhati Roy connects the foundation, along with the Rockefeller Foundation, with supporting imperialist efforts by the U.S. government during the Cold War.”
This is indeed interesting. What does that tell you about the state of western media?
Former CIA Agent John Stockwell Talks about How the CIA Worked in Vietnam and Elsewhere https://youtu.be/NK1tfkESPVY
Obv the military industrial complex grew significantly since the release of this
What does that tell you about the state of western media?
Trying to generalize based on a single example is poor reasoning.
YouTube: I don’t do YouTube, sorry, no offense to you or whatever you’re trying to convey.
Oh shit, a Wikipedia page.
While the Sandler Foundation provided ProPublica with significant financial support, it also has received funding from the Knight Foundation, MacArthur Foundation, Pew Charitable Trusts, Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Corporation, and the Atlantic Philanthropies.
Lol u can’t be serious
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I just want to point out how funny it is that you have zero points on this post considering none of the hexbear bRiGaDerS have the ability to downvote
Friend here really thinks we’re going after journalists for making imaginary bank, and not Murdoch and his mates.
The idea that media companies in the the west are subservient to the interests of capital and the military industrial state isn’t even a “tankie” take on the left. Similar ideas have been espoused by many people across the left, the most famous of which being Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky.
Is the executive of the media company that owns the news outlet also a journalist? Is the financial conglomerate that owns the media company as well as the missile company, also a journalist? Come on, you must have thought at least once in your life about this actually existing hierarchy of capitals and how it influences what news gets published and who gets to work as a journalist.
It’s so strange how all the rich news companies would report in a way that supports the interests of rich people. So weird!
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tankies trying to spread pro-Russian/Chinese propaganda.
Please read Manufacturing Consent to learn why DW, Fox, Pro Publica, and AP News articles seem like they’re written by the same people. A very short summary is that only people that subscribe to viewpoints compatible with owners’ viewpoints are allowed to write for these organizations. If you’re familiar with the wealth concentration in the US, you know that the owners are a pretty small group of people and they share certain interests that inform their viewpoints.
folks, we have some great posters. many would say they are the best posters. they say “hexbear has the most posting power.” our posters are big and strong and powerful. you wouldnt believe some of the posts ive seen. incredibleSo many visible pronouns to upbear in this thread.
We say things that you think are untrue because reddit has been aggressively sheltering you from the truth. Lemmy is not controlled by the US State department like Reddit is. That is a big part of the reason Hexbear exists. When you step out of the censorship zone you meet ideas you haven’t met before.
We were exiled from the censorship zone. We made a home out here in the wilds where we were challenged every day. We helped each other. We taught each other. We sharpened each other’s posting skills. When you stepped into lemmy during the spez revolt (or whatever that was I dont know why reddexit happened) you thought it was an empty land but we were waiting out here.
Recently our admins figured out how to bridge the gap from our custom fork back to lemmy proper and so we came to see if there were any new Ideas to test and any new minds to spread our ideas to.
We are like Fremen but we post.
We sharpened each other’s posting skills.
your reply comes off so edgy that at least this part must be true
We are like Fremen
As in Fremen from Dune? But they were fooled into a religion and belief by a powerful political organization, and then manipulated again by their messiah. I’m not arguing with you, just noticed the comparison with fremen. lol
No, we’re like Fremen cause we drink our own piss
they mean we do cool drugs and have sweet orgies and drain outsiders of their precious vital fluids for sustenance
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Riding the lib brainworms,
getting high off the poop dust (dunking on their dogshit posts) 
Almost any analogy can be taken to an extreme where it ceases to make the point it is intoned to illustrate.
We’re posters. We’re active.
Honestly if reading views that are different to your own in posts that reach the federation /all/ page is a problem why leave reddit? One of the best things about this place is it NOT being a bubble of liberal-only thought where people jerk each other off all the time. Have conversations with us, realise that we have evidence for everything we say. I’m happy to chat to anyone.
Don’t know much about Hexbear myself, but wanted to add that it’s at least 3 years old since that’s the first post I see sorting by old under the featured section.
They used a custom fork of Lemmy that couldn’t federate with Lemmy, and was only recently was able to federate with vanilla Lemmy again, that’s why we’re only seeing posts from them within the past week or two.
I don’t know how accurate the user count is, but they do at least have the time to back up the numbers
