Has anyone else noticed how prevalent Hexbear posters have suddenly become? Maybe sometime last week I noticed nearly every political post had at least one long thread of Hexbear users that do nothing but repeat CCP talking points while waving anyway anything even remotely reliable as Western propaganda. That or getting all excited about trolled libs. The way they tell it, you’d think everything from DW, to Fox, to Propublica, to straight up AP News articles, are all written by the same people.
Not to mention, their info on the Fediverse observer is either straight up wrong or there’s some serious botting going on. According to that, the instance is less than a month old, yet somehow they already have one of the largest, most active userbases, along with far and away the most comments of any instance.
Seems to me like Lemmygrad on steroids. Considering we defederated from them, seems like a no-brainer to block Hexbear as well.
So glad this thread could become such a perfect microcosm of why we need to defederate.
The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. But if the enemy of my enemy points out how stupid my enemy is I’m not gonna disagree
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You are forgetting the massive number of capitalists (and their rube supporters) who self-identify as liberal
Yeah I know they are a funny thing
Do you do anything other than these clumsy deflections?
You’re misreading, buddy!
Where does MLK fit in there? He may not have literally used lib as a slur, but he wasn’t shy about seeing them as an impediment to progress.
“White moderate” is basically equivalent to what we call a ‘liberal’.
“Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed.”
“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”
“I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits.”
“Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred.”
I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizens Councillor or the Ku Klux Klanner but the white moderate who is more devoted to order than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says, “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically feels that he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by the myth of time; and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
Excellent addition 👍
Wait is this generated by a bot? I’d be fascinated to know how your brain works. Can you communicate in full sentences?
None of this implies he’s more of a liberal.
Realize that “freedom” isn’t your side’s invention, and what do you have left?
Were you a redditor? If so, you might remember r/chapotraphouse getting banned - they had been quarantined for quite a while before that, so they were ready to migrate when the ban came down. Idk if Hexbear is the first/only place they went or just where most ended up, but it’s definitely the same vibe as the subreddit, with a little bit of discord thrown in with the emotes.
I will admit to being not the most observant person - especially as I’m in the process of switching medical providers right now, so I’m between ADHD prescriptions and definitely not as with it as I could be! - but when I poked my head in over there, I saw fellow anarchists posting, so I had consequently dismissed people saying they were churning out “CCP talking points.” It mostly seems to me they churn out bullying - for everyone to the right of Bernie Sanders (which I mostly approve of, or at least find amusing). And Pig Poop Balls, of course. What did I miss?
but when I poked my head in over there, I saw fellow anarchists posting, so I had consequently dismissed people saying they were churning out “CCP talking points.”
To be fair, our anarchists are tankies too.
Even our animal friends are tankies
Idk if Hexbear is the first/only place they went or just where most ended up
There was a discord server right at the start, but there was drama as there always is with discord and it quickly split into the discord group and the hexbear group basically as soon as the site went up. (this was like a week or two after the ban iirc)
It was Just the server for a good few months before the lemmy came up right?
I thought so, but I joined July 29, 2020, and that was just a couple days after the site launched, as I recall. I got lucky and saw a post about it on
I couldn’t remember when CTH got banned, but I looked it up and it was June 29, 2020. So just under a month, I guess. I’m glad I missed the invitation to the discord though–every time I try to use that thing it just makes me sad and angry. It isn’t just not user-friendly, it’s designed to be actively hostile to people trying to use it, I swear.
A number of people use both
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here’s how Bernie can still win:
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stay in line!
The folks in front of me have been sleeping for like over two years straight but I’m gonna politely wait for them to wake up so I don’t ruin The Democratic Process (but they smelled awful for some reason for the first few months after falling asleep idk what that was all abt
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I mean, he is a centrist. He doesn’t even want to abolish capitalism.
And his views on Israel, yikes
it’s more his support for the rest of US foreign policy. his views on Palestine are fine.
Bernie is to the right of chester the cheetoh’s cheetah wrt to “Israel” which means it’s the gulag for him.
waaait what on earth did I miss
What do you mean? He is like the only senator that mentions Palestinians deserving human dignity.
Well, yeah if you use the rest of the US legislature as a baseline sure I guess he’s not bad
But in absolute terms?
Look, I hate Bernie too, but most of the people complaining about his stance on Israel are claiming in so many words that he’s a “Bad Jew” for not being as zionist as they are.
Maybe, honestly it’s been a while since I looked at it - maybe I’m misremembering.
Actually we’re paid bot shills for the CPC, not the CCP.
ty, glhf, and all hail Xi
Yeah Idk what’s up with them either man I saw them in a cupboard making babies and one of the babies looked at me
Mention them even once and all of them show up spouting memes and essays and shit :-\ Some of their words sound great and even like that’s a place for me but somehow none of their attitudes do. Maybe at least they’ll help tilt the place a bit more toward actually-left (always good, as far as I’m concerned) if they truly are leftish but also hopefully they aren’t going to make every thread a mess of them all showing up and loudly sniffing each other’s emissions.
folks, we have some great posters. many would say they are the best posters. they say “hexbear has the most posting power.” our posters are big and strong and powerful. you wouldnt believe some of the posts ive seen. incredibleWe’ve been around for literally 3 years bro. You’re the new kid here.
Also lemmy was literally partially created by our users. You’re the one coming into our space.
i dont know where these people came from. Do they not know that lemmy was started by users of /r/fullcommunism after reddit banned it?
They think they just really like Mali over in lemmy.ml
wait is it not .ml cause the devs were from mali?
I actually didn’t know this, that absolutely rules, /r/FC rocked
Stalin defeated fascism
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 47 at paginateLlama.main(paginateLlama.java:28)Don’t know much about Hexbear myself, but wanted to add that it’s at least 3 years old since that’s the first post I see sorting by old under the featured section.
They used a custom fork of Lemmy that couldn’t federate with Lemmy, and was only recently was able to federate with vanilla Lemmy again, that’s why we’re only seeing posts from them within the past week or two.
I don’t know how accurate the user count is, but they do at least have the time to back up the numbers
Maybe sometime last week I noticed nearly every political post had at least one long thread of Hexbear users that do nothing but repeat CCP talking points while waving anyway anything even remotely reliable as Western propaganda.
Just curious, are you old enough to remember the media role in the run up to the Iraq War? The US media spread outright lies on behalf of the military industrial complex, to a degree that made it obvious to anyone watching once things started to go south after the war was well underway. It may not be quite as obvious these days as it was back then, but that kind of media manipulation is still very common. These days, you also have direct social media manipulation on top of that. In my opinion, it’s a terrible idea to accept the media narrative at face value, and you should at least consider other arguments and try to dig into the evidence a little more yourself instead of just saying someone is a shill. I think you’ll start finding the reality might be different than what you were initially led to believe.
Also on the topic of media manipulation, here is a GREAT video that everyone imo should watch: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2BO83Ig-E8E
It was absolutely not obvious at all to Americans back then. Or more accurately, they wanted to believe the lies so they did
73% of Americans were in favor of invading Iraq
Some of us saw right through that shit immediately though
Same thing happened in Vietnam. In fact, public opinion only really changed after the politicians started saying that it was ‘time to scale down US involvement’ or whatever, which only came years after many people in the Whitehouse realised the war was unwinnable. In the meantime, and despite all the famous protests and anti-war marches, the public was pretty happy to follow the official line that America was the good guy and that communism had to be stopped.
You could do an interesting analysis of this phenomenon using Gramsci’s idea of Cultural Hegemony as a framing device.
Yep, I also feel like many people have inserted their own reality of history where all the anti war protests and fraggings were because the Americans wanted to stop killing others
But if you actually read the sentiment from people back then, the seemingly strongest sentiment was to stop the war because too many Americans were coming back in body bags and American soldiers were heavily demoralized from the nightmarish conditions of guerilla warfare against the Vietnamese
They just didn’t want more Americans to die for a reason they’ve never been told about
Not sure if I made it clear enough, but I meant it became more obvious once the war started going badly and the weapons of mass destruction had not turned up.
Thanks for posting this. This is another great case that illustrates how western media manipulation happens.
Great video. Bless Boy Boy and their little cotton socks. The followup is a real one-two punch.
Please read Manufacturing Consent to learn why DW, Fox, Pro Publica, and AP News articles seem like they’re written by the same people. A very short summary is that only people that subscribe to viewpoints compatible with owners’ viewpoints are allowed to write for these organizations. If you’re familiar with the wealth concentration in the US, you know that the owners are a pretty small group of people and they share certain interests that inform their viewpoints.
