• @[email protected]
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      Raised Catholic, but half my family is Jewish. Almost a running joke at family functions when the conversation turns to religion and we’re all like “Yeah, you guys got close enough, idk at least we’re not Scientologists.”

      • Call me Lenny/Leni
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        Can relate. I was raised without anything specific in mind, one day came back to them (I spent my childhood in different places) having forgotten I am now denominational for a very not-very-discussed denomination, and they make the same joke, “well if it protects her from things like Scientology, it’s a godsend if you ask me.”

  • gabe [he/him]
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    uh… this is very much untrue for Jews. Judaism has the official religious position that its technically easier for non-Jews to get into the afterlife than Jews themselves. Judaism is fundamentally a different religion than Christianity…

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        who? I’ve never heard of him in context of studying world religions… i was quoting an expert on Comparative Mythology.

        “his views on cultural and political issues which have been described as conservative or right-wing.” - I don’t think “all religions are non-literal” sounds like conservative in any way, shape, or form.

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            giving any direct answer on his actual religious beliefs is to highlight how “true in a sense” the stories are.

            They are true, metaphorically. Just as much as Star Wars is true to the mass mind (hive mind, collective unconscious, whatever you call it) of the human experience. Just as much true as The Simpsons, Finengans Wake, Shakespeare, etc.

            I think a lot of people avoid very basic things about religions: 1) They are learned much like spoken languages. 2) people have trouble learning second languages much like religions. 3) You can translate religion to religion, there are a lot of common concepts, even if often inverted. Take marriage, funerals, and holidays for examples.

            “Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.” ― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

            It’s taking Fox News literally, it is taking Star Trek literally, it is taking fiction stories as fact / literal that’s the problem.

    • @[email protected]
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      Can you show me where I said that? You did say “every” I have been an open one for almost 5 years now.

    • Bappity
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      72 years ago

      yooo you just totally ripped them with that comeback bro this is you right now

    • @[email protected]
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      Atheists simply believe there is no strong evidence for all of the religions people tried to indoctrinate them into.

      But let’s say for sake of argument that we went with your straw-man: I’d love to hear any strong evidence that otherwise disproves your caricature of atheism. I’ll wait.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        Atheistic religions exist btw

        And they represent a tiny, tiny minority of the atheist community, so not sure what braindead point you’re trying to make.

        • Nora
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          That couldn’t be more of an oxymoron.

          • @[email protected]
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            ?

            It is without theism not without religion. If I am an anarchist does that mean I do not have citizenship in any country?

            • Nora
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              The hell are they believing in? Yeah there was a bid bang and magic is real but there is no god? No one uses the word that way.

                • Nora
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                  This is not the definition of religion I’d agree atheism references. Especially when one has secular in its name. This is just cultural practices. But if they believe in some deity they arent atheists.

    • Nora
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      Atheists aren’t claiming anything to be true. Many religions do however make claims about science and history that are most definitely wrong.

  • rustydomino
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    As a non Jew, this is one of the things I appreciate about Judaism. Y’all might believe this, but you spend zero effort convincing me this is true.

    • gabe [he/him]
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      You’re right. It isn’t true. Judaism’s official position is that Judaism is explicitly for Jews only. You’re welcome to join us if you do the work to do so and realize the difficulty it may bring, but it’s our thing and we explicitly do not try to try to convince other people to become Jews. We actively do the opposite, discouraging people to convert. Being Jewish doesn’t make us better people or worse people than anyone else, it just makes us Jews.

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          I have no idea where you learned that, but you are just patently incorrect. Judaism is a distinct religion separated from Islam and Christianity. It’s not those religions-lite, it’s its own thing. It is an ethnoreligion, with atheists who practice Judaism culturally.

          There is no “factually correct” means of Judaism either, the entire religion is based upon debate and discussion. If you ask two rabbis the same question, you will get four different answers. The word Israel directly translated to “to wrestle with G-d”

          Yes, Judaism has its issue but doing this nonsense only serves to harm us.

          There is a key religious philosophy in Judaism that athiests who do good deeds are potentially the most giving of all, as it is known for certain that they are doing good things for the sake of being good not out of fear or reward. That is the words uttered from one of the most important Jewish philosophers, ever.

          Jews are not your enemy, we are your allies. Evil people tend come for us first, and we will stand up for you when we need to as well. American Jews are extremely chill and extremely left leaning. We are actively pushing back against the US backsliding.

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              🙄 the chosen people think does not mean what you think it means. Jews disagree on more than just a “few miracles” the religion is literally completely different than other abrahamic religions

              Regardless I know there’s no point in arguing with you. It’s ironic you say that other faiths have those who still culturally practice when it’s clear you have internalized Christian hegemony towards Jews and still perpetuate it. You’re acting like a Christian atheist. don’t take your religious trauma out on Jews please

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                  the priestly class that governs the goyim

                  Hm… interesting. I dunno if you’re being truthful as that’s an extremely common antisemitic canard outside of very very fundamentalist Jewish groups. And calling Judaism supremacist is very sus 🤔

            • gabe [he/him]
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              I am understanding what you’re saying, and I am telling that you’re wrong. You’re understanding on what religion stands for is coming a very Christianized perspective of what religion is and isn’t and taking that approach towards Judaism is extremely harmful. Someone believing in Buddhism does not mean they explicitly think all religions are incorrect, that’s probably the worst example as Buddhists are explicitly religiously pluralistic. Jews do not see Judaism as being above all religions and that all others are wrong, it’s more nuanced. Judaism is perfectly fine with other religions for the most part in the modern day. Religious pluralism is kind of the general consensus amongst Jews. Philosophically in Judaism its easier for non-Jews to be righteous and enter the afterlife over Jews themselves.

                • gabe [he/him]
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                  Yeah, I know… Christian atheists stop perpetuating Christian antisemitism and culturally erasure challenge

                • gabe [he/him]
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                  Not believing in other religions does not mean that you believe all others are inherently incorrect. That is a very Christian thing.

    • @[email protected]
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      Except for orthodox jews who are currently legislating their ass-backwards practice in Israel.

      Every religion sucks, some just have the power.

  • @[email protected]
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    Zen Buddhist here. If your religion makes you feel a type of way then it’s working. I know this table is real because I see and feel it. Relationships to religion are a personal experience and I’m not here to tell judge you about the validity of it. We all good homie

  • @[email protected]
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    TIL that evangelicals who listen, in church, to the literal Sermon on the Mount are complaining to said preachers about all those “woke leftist talking points.” When reminded that these were the literal teachings of Jesus Christ, they double down about how it’s old, week, and no longer applies.

    Evangelicalism is running out of actual Christians in its churches. They’re so addicted to toxic GOP insanity that they’ve replaced their actual religion with insane political machinations in a silly hat.

  • RaivoKulli
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    Well yeah doubt they’d be into their current religion if they didn’t believe that it was true

  • @[email protected]
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    Christianity is the one true religion. Except for Christianity that is not the Christianity that I grew up with. That Christianity is false.