• CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    I hated The Godfather. I don’t think I’ve seen any piece of media that hates women more than it. It felt disgusting to watch. It’s also too slow and boring, even watching sped up.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      247 months ago

      That checks out considering how much the “auteur” behind it still abuses women regularly and was a sex predator creep on the set of “Megalopolis.”

      It’s a treat I didn’t dare criticize out loud for a long time because of the decades-established “this is a masterpiece” social norm protecting it, but yes I always found The Godfather to be misogynistic hog slop for slop hogs. “It doesn’t condone the characters or what they do!” yeah yeah I think Coppola does, actually.

    • ashinadash [she/her]
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      87 months ago

      I don’t think I’ve seen any piece of media that hates women more than it.

      The Michael Mann directed movie Heat maybe?

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        77 months ago

        The Chris Pratt Jurassic World movies had some pretty heavy misogyny subtext, too.

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          7 months ago

          Luckily I hate Chris Pratt’s smarmy “white boy who can do no wrong (while assaulting everyone around him)” vibes so I just refuse to watch anything with him in it.

          Huh. Now that I put it together it’s probably some trigger. Well, back into the dirt goes that realization, I don’t have time to introspect about everything

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            37 months ago

            Well among other things one feeemale side character is “played with” by pterodactyls until she’s battered to death and the subtext is “lol silly female trying to be like Chris Pratt” and that goes extra for the “lol high heels, silly female” that’s mansplained to until she’s domesticated by the end and becomes a subservient waifu.

  • keepcarrot [she/her]
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    47 months ago

    What is actually the appeal of the godfather? I got very bored very quickly, and all I ever hear about it is complaints, but there absolutely is a sort of guy who Stan’s the movie

    • YuccaMan [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      The high drama of family strife, conspiracy, betrayal, and power, played out with life or death stakes. Or at least, that’s what I enjoy about it. It’s very operatic. Plus it’s got a number of excellent performances and an excellent soundtrack. And as an aside, it’s a rare example of a movie being far better than the book it’s based on. Fond as I am of the novel, there’s a lot of shit that the movie rightfully excises (in the novel, Sonny’s unnaturally large penis is literally an integral part of Lucy Mancini’s subplot.)

      Also, particularly when combined with the sequel, Godfather shows a mythologized, multi-generational rendition of the Italian immigrant experience. More broadly, it’s a cultural artifact of 70s America that reflected a growing sense of otherness among so-called ‘white ethnics’ from the socially dominant WASPs, and a rejection of the assimilationist tendencies that had supposedly characterized the immigrant experience prior to that point.

      None of this is to say you have to watch it. If it isn’t your thing, then it isn’t. I hate when people insist that a movie is essential somehow, and that there’s something wrong with you if you don’t like it. I just figured I’d share a bit of what I liked/thought about it.

      • keepcarrot [she/her]
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        27 months ago

        Nah, it’s worthwhile reflecting on things you like, even in public assuming no one is going to jump down your throat.

        The main recommendation I’ve gotten up to now is “Oh my God, you haven’t watched The Godfather?? You’ve watched so many movies” from one sort of person >.>

        • YuccaMan [he/him]
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          27 months ago

          Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. People do that with Star Wars a lot as well. Always gives me second hand embarassment.

          Plus like, leaving all else aside, I’ve never understood how peer pressure and making somebody feel lesser for not seeing a particular movie is supposed to make them enthusiastic about doing that (though of course much of the time that isn’t the point, it’s a mask for a smug sense of superiority)

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      47 months ago

      A lot of Burgerlanders really like the patriarchal power fantasy of being mobsters, especially mob bosses. grillman

  • Poogona [he/him]
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    187 months ago

    The sopranos has made the godfather a little embarrassing in 2024 tbh

    Sopranos killed mobster flicks like Monty Python killed the quest movie

  • Gorb [they/them]
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    147 months ago

    I don’t remember any of Godfather i just remember being really bored and wondering what the big deal was. It really does insist upon itself family-guy-death-pose

    Bocchi is no less than finely crafted perfection