That’s it. That’s the post. I can’t stop making the connection to those songs. 
This is why I call my partner “babe”, so people think I’m just calling them a pig.
Let me just grab my glasses real quick
“Bring Ms. Piggy in for questioning, too.”
That’ll do pig
Things to say at a cop’s funeral
One of the main arguments for why ”cancel culture” is bullshit is that all of this still gets played, even from people like Steven Tyler who we know for sure are pedos.
How many rich predators on
's guest lists have seen a day of prison for what they did?
Ted Nugent LITERALLY has a song called “Jailbait” and yet he’s supposed to be saving the democrat sex trafficked children with Trump.
“She’s Only Seventeen” is another well known and horrible song from creeps.
i worked at a place that had boomer rock on all the time and one song i hated was what’s your name where the chorus is literally LITTLE GIRL WHAT’S YOUR NAME
Then they died in a plane crash
Happily ever after.
Except the one who survived, and then got shot by a landowner who thought he was trespassing
FUCK that’s gross, especially looking back.
Gary Puckett and the Union Gap.
The song is delivered from the point of view of a man who has become distressed upon finding out that the girl he is with, contrary to the first impression she had made upon him, is actually younger than the legal age of consent. He is asking her to leave before things go any further: “Get out of here / before I have the time / to change my mind / 'cause I’m afraid we’ll go too far”.
It reached #2 on the charts. #1 in the UK.
Nonce Island stays noncing
I was talking about this with a friend years ago how fucking common it was for the classic rockstars (mostly of previous generations to what we listened to, but sadly some more recent too) to be full on pedos. I did a little bit of reading on the subject and it is gut-churning. Not just how ubiquitous it was, but also how largely accepted it was (and continues to be), and also how severe so much of it was.
Content Warning on the rest of this comment from here on out. Gary Glitter is probably the most egregious and well known as far as like Epstein level offenses, you can look him up if you want the sickening details. Obvious huge CW if you do. There’s another name that always comes up with this stuff that I’m hesitant to even mention because he was more of a nobody than a true rockstar and became famous more for his crimes and how extreme they were than for his music, though his band did have a following that he drew his victims from. NSFL kind of shit.
If we were to make a list, it might be easier to name the major classic rock stars that weren’t creepers in some way. Like Mick Jagger and Jimmy Page “dating” the same 14 year old girl Lori Maddox (major CW here: common term for her was that she was a “baby groupie”) at the same time, and like David Bowie was involved with her too somehow? The bassist for the Rolling Stones (Wyman) was 47 in a “relationship” with a 13 year old. The drummer for the Eagles was in legal trouble regarding a 16 year old. Then there’s Pete Townsend of The Who getting caught paying with his credit card for CSAM but used the excuse that he was trying to catch the predators and do “research” regarding his own abuse. I don’t know enough about that one, maybe he doesn’t belong on the same list, but it seems pretty sus. People in the thread mentioning the “Little girl, what’s your name?” lyrics and that’s Lynard Skynard. And of course My Sharona. There’s a bunch of songs I can’t remember atm saying the same kind of thing. I think Iggy Pop also has some lyrics about some of his known underage fans. Stephen Tyler (Aerosmith) and fucking Ted Nugent both became “legal guardians” of underage girls for the reasons you are correctly assuming but wish you weren’t. Jerry Lee Lewis famously married his 13 year old cousin. Elvis Presley and Priscilla was like 14. List goes on.
I never really knew anything about Gary Glitter, so I assumed he was some beloved glam rock star with tons of songs people recognize, when in reality he’s closer to a one hit wonder (and they still play that song at sporting events).
There’s another name that always comes up with this stuff that I’m hesitant to even mention because he was more of a nobody than a true rockstar and became famous more for his crimes and how extreme they were than for his music, though his band did have a following that he drew his victims from.
I can think of one guy, although he’s definitely not ”classic rock”.
I was talking about this with a friend years ago how fucking common it was for the classic rockstars (mostly of previous generations to what we listened to, but sadly some more recent too) to be full on pedos. I did a little bit of reading on the subject and it is gut-churning. Not just how ubiquitous it was, but also how largely accepted it was (and continues to be), and also how severe so much of it was.
“Separate art from artist” mantra chanting isn’t new, though it got reworded a few times. In my youth I was told that in “different times” (often “better times” according to not-as-old boomers around me!) that was normal and cool and good and “political correctness” (what is now called “DEI” and used to be called “woke” and before that “SJW”) is the reason that they can’t have as much “fun” as they used to, like when Playboy Magazine had articles where predatory old men described, openly, how much they wanted to violate child actresses of that current time.
Your list of musicians that I didn’t yet know were predators will take some time for me to sort through. Fuck’s sake, even the Eagles…
Fuck’s sake, even the Eagles…
It’s so wild how normalized that shit was for so long. A cursed fact I know off the top of my head is that CP wasn’t criminalized in the US until the 70s, so the boomers grew up with it being totally legal.
I did not know that and now I’m horrified retroactively, like finding a hook-hand on the car door handle.
Back in the 70s all this pedo shit was just out in the open in the West. I once saw an old US lip gloss ad targeted at young girls, which had a sexualized pre-teen girl wearing make-up in her undies with some very creepy “baby girl” marketing surrounding the whole thing.
At least in here in Europe, there were also movies released in theater back then that had CP in them. I remember reading about one movie that was eventually banned in some Western countries after people complained, but you could still go to any West German theater and watch your Italian kiddie porn there.
I once had a boomer tell me that back in the day you could just walk into a video rental store, and it would have a dedicated CP section. All very normal!
When you notice the sheer number of “classic rock” songs that are explicitly about creeping on children it’s hard to go back. The stories about groups like Led Zeppelin are disturbing
I may have to give up entirely on the genre; there just isn’t much left that I wouldn’t feel disgusted by listening to it and picking up the subtext that was always there.
And then I came of age listening to metalcore and deathcore. Lotta similar shit. Just SA and DV allegations/charges left and right. Warped Tour was a mistake. They knew and they didn’t do shit. Not to mention so many of the lyrics were about raging at your ex girlfriend or some similar implied relationship.
Not to mention so many of the lyrics were about raging at your ex girlfriend or some similar implied relationship
Early 2000s emo stuff was similarly
to me because a lot of lyrics had a misogynistic aspect.Not entirely relevant to this, but I remember when the singer of the band Champion was revealed to be a child predator.
“Woodstock 99” was a nightmare of utter fucking hogs being SV enjoyers and blatant misogynists, even outright attacking women on stage, too.
Did you watch the documentary about WS99 from a few years ago? Riveting, in a sort of train wreck way
Let’s just say I had a close enough experience at the time that the documentary would be a very hard watch, full of reminders.
Anyone know if prog rock has any problematic elements? I already know Rush are turbo cringe libertarian Ayn Rand
Filmmakers, too.
Oh yes, especially some kinds of filmmakers: the “auteur” creeps that get special cultural license to be creeps for decades with no consequences as an assumed cost of doing business with them.
I’m just happy that Kubrick seems to not have been one of them. Even when adapting very dark stories where he could have tried to get away with “but that’s the age of the characters in the original” he had the good sense to age-up troublingly-young characters. There’s a particularly notorious scene in the original A Clockwork Orange novel that he handled perfectly in the adaptation. Anyone familiar with the movie knows the scene where Alex has a consensual threesome with these two adult women.
But in the original novel, they’re both 10 years old and not consenting whatsoever.
As far as I know, David Lynch was the same way: I read that he was kind and patient with anyone that was going to be in a scary scene and only took actors as far as they could handle and they spoke well of him after those movies.
Fuck Hitchcock though.
Fuck Hitchcock though.
Uh-oh. What’s the context?
It was no secret (and he actually bragged about it “auteur” style) that he abused and tormented people on set (in particular women) to ostensibly get them emotionally shaken enough to suit his “vision.”
During “The Birds,” for example, he arranged it so a frozen chicken was thrown at the car window of one of the lead actresses as she was rolling up to the set!
David Lynch unfortunely also signed the letter in favor of Roman Polanski (No idea if he regrets supporting it like Natalie Portman did).
FUCK. I had no idea.
He’s also adamently a proponent and supporter of Transcendental Meditation and has converted half the actors he’s worked with. Which as an individual practice isnt’t a problem, but the organization behind it is a huge scam started by a predatory rolls royce yogi who Lynch personally knew. The same guy who made The Beatles leave India because he creeped on their girlfriends.
I half forgive him for this because I think he probably doesnt read literally anything on the internet and has had the privilege of the organization sheltering him from any of their wrongdoing. Unless a friend of his personally told him, he might not have any idea.
Don’t listen to ‘je suis un rock star’ dawg
Assuming you’re talking about the Bill Wyman song, that isn’t even the worst thing about him.
I remember “je suis” being said by edgelords in reference to specific underaged anime characters for a while in the internet wild.
Damn, I hear “je suis” and think of the Jonathan Coulton song, “Je Suis Rick Springfield.”
It just makes the boomers whole “forever young” ethos all the more creepy. They really did become the generation that had a mid-life crisis that never ended and made it everyone’s problem.
Oh yeah, and with all the shit about Diddy, Drake, Epstein, Mike Jeffries, (probably) Trump and Musk. How many of these creeps are our neighbors but the only thing that ultimately stopped them is the fact they know even they would be caught?
It just makes the boomers whole “forever young” ethos all the more creepy. They really did become the generation that had a mid-life crisis that never ended and made it everyone’s problem.
I used to think “mid-life crisis” was an inevitability when I saw it presented on screens when I was a kid: that someday I’d be in my 40s and need to be in denial about it and have a convertible and a leisure suit and try to hit on women half my age.
That was just boomers telling on themselves. I’m well into my 40s and that didn’t happen, not even in a “wearing neon and spiking my hair 80s style” way.
Can’t blame you. Feel the same way when I hear “babygirl” in a song
It’s very offputting to me too.
I immediately thought of Jethro Tull’s Aqualung
