Is Biden too stupid to realize that helping Bibi helps trump? Or does he just not care because supporting genocide is more important to him than the election?
I think the most reasonable assumption would be that the Democrats reckon that coming out against Israel will lose them more zionist votes then sticking with Israel will lose them anti-genocide votes. And given the amount of money AIPAC has been throwing around against anti-zionist candidates in primaries, that might not be an incorrect reckoning.
its about money not votes. Usually whoever gets the most money wins.
Which means they’ve made the calculation that they don’t need or want the anti-genocide vote.
So don’t blame this anti-genocide voter for not voting for a candidate that doesn’t want me.
And in doing so, you are hanging out to dry LGBTQ+, women, racial minorities, anyone working for minimum wage, anyone with health insurance, thousands of federal employees, the people of Ukraine, and when it really comes down to it, the people of Gaza.
There is no anti-genocide option on the table. Not in any meaningful way. It’s not a real choice at all, to be honest, but the direction is clear.
There is no anti-genocide option on the table.
If you find yourself writing this, then stop what you’re doing and re-evaluate your entire ideology.
There is no anti-genocide option on the table. That’s not ideology, it’s reality.
There is an anti-genocide option on the table, but neither democrats nor republicans are willing to use it. You should stop defending people who support genocide by pretending genocide is the only option.
It’s not anything I can vote for, and not voting doesn’t get us there, either. There is no real choice.
If you hate imperialism hard enough, a viable third party candidate will emerge. You just have to try harder. /s
Imagine if all those people stood together against genocide instead of dividing over it. Women alone are like half the population… Why are they siding with genocide? They could elect anyone they want. Anyone with health insurance? That’s almost everyone. Bam, anyone they want. If a gay person votes for genocide how much should I really give a shit about them? There’s no “meaningful choice” because the libs get out early saying so… But if it’s not this election then certainly by the next one, millennials and zoomers are gonna be done with the old boomer parties… And good riddance
I can imagine. Let’s say all these groups unanimously decided not to vote for democrats. Then they ask who they do vote for.
Feminists vote for the best feminist candidate they can find. BLM votes for the best civil rights candidate they can find. LGBTQ people vote for the queerist person they can find. None of them support genocide, but none of them are voting for the same person.
Now Trump wins with the vote split 40/20/20/20. Great job, we overwhelmingly voted against genocide and it only got worse.
There is no anti-genocide option on the table. It is not a real choice.
Ugh… We need ranked choice so bad
They’ve probably also figured out how many people saying that will actually fold with a little arm twisting. Would be super interesting to see those numbers.
Don’t worry, I’m sure in a few years he’ll be indicted, and then a few years after that there will be a trial, and then a few years after that he might be forced to grift his followers to pay a fine.
Technically I don’t even þink ðis would get a trial, since Israel, unlike Iran and ð Vietkong, are not enemies of ð US at ð time of ð act in question.
Meaning what would normally qualify for an open and shut case for treason doesn’t apply since ð aiding and abetting isn’t happening to a technically hostile power.
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Because they’re awesome
Because (based on their post history) a few weeks back they had a crisis of identity and needed to do something - anything - to feel seen.
Sadly, they chose an annoying as fuck thing to harp on about in pursuit of being a special butterfly. Normally I’d just block and move on, but I want to observe this particular slow-motion tragedy as it unfolds.
Shit, he probably won’t last long before senility or old age gets him. Then we have old president JD to look forward to
Senility and old age have already “gotten” him. He’s basically an animated carcass.
I can’t even understand what this is supposed to say.
Quoth the tankies, but Dems same tho
They’re using old English characters that used to mean “th”
Damn, Trump must be making Biden and Harris give unequivocal support to Netanyahu’s genocide too! The conspiracy goes deeper than I thought.
Quote me if I’m wrong but isn’t this fucking illegal to have a private citizen act on behalf of the United States government?
Nixon did it with the Vietnam War. Reagan did it with the Iranian Hostage Crisis. Trump did it with Putin in 2016 (and then Pardoned Michael Flynn for taking part in it).
Surely this law will apply to him.
he will write it in his CV under the list of convictions
Add it to the pile. He’s above the law
Logan Act
Only applies to Little People
It really applies to nobody. The Logan Act might be the most ignored and pointless law in US history. Even stuff like Operation Red Dog was prosecuted under a totally different law.
Of all the Not Happening in stuff Trump could get prosecuted for, this is the most Not Happening.
If you’re going to use eth I just wish you’d use a vowel for ‘the’. No other consonants imply vowels in english.
Borrowed from Shavian, where ð equivalent letter, as well as four oðer consonants, actually do imply ð full word.
Used for words wið specific grammar purposes, n for and, f for for, v for of, and t for to.
Interesting. Shaw specified that shavian alphabet should be a complete replacement to avoid the jarring appearance of misspelling though right? Porting those conventions into standard english orthography seems to violate that.
Meh, why waste a perfectly usable convention when you’re not gonna use ð alphabet it was originally used in?
Fair enough!
It’s because language changes gradually over time. Most people who aren’t English Majors or have a Linguistics degree don’t even know what a Thorn is, and I don’t even blame them. (Also the fact that no Middle English characters are on my keyboard, closest I have to a dead symbol is ‽)
I actually use þe interrobang quite frequently!
Same, personally I find it quite hilarious ðat people bitch at me about how “th” is mandatory because linguistic development and ðen in ð same breaþ condemn ‽ as quirky bait.
I þink it’s important we have some fun wiþ language. Using historic letters is fun! So is þe interrobang! Who cares about þe people bitching‽ Language development doesn’t need to be homogenous
What makes you choose þ or ð? In Icelandic it’s the difference between voiced and voiceless.
That seems to be what they’re doing here too. It reads almost normal to me except for not writing out “ðe” fully which is pointlessly jarring.
What ever makes them feel better than everyone else at the current moment. Nothing else matters.
Stop trying to make Middle English happen.
NAY I SAY!
Based as hell.
A thorn in your side?
A thorn in my ash.
Surely we’ll sing
of no little thing
In Oak and ash and thorn
No. Language is dynamic by design. If þey/þem wish to be diacritical fluid, who are we to deny freedom of speech?
You’re right, it is. But language shifts in populations in ways that enhance communication. One person using letters that nobody else uses makes communication of ideas more difficult.
Not only that, but they’re only choosing to use some Middle English letters, and not any other rules of Middle English grammar or spelling.
They can use whatever language they want, but if it’s too much effort for people to understand, they’re more likely to be ignored.
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You’re right, it is. But language shifts in populations in ways that enhance communication. One person using
letterspronouns that nobody else uses makes communication of ideas more difficult.Not only that, but they’re only choosing to use some
Middle English lettersenglish pronouns, and not any otherrules of Middle English grammar or spellingdifferent types of english pronouns.They can use whatever
languagepronouns they want, but if it’s too much effort for people to understand, they’re more likely to be ignored.Doesn’t sound so reasonable now, does it? If language that mildly inconveniences others is an acceptable way to express your gender identity, then why not also to express yourself creatively?
One, pronous are not letters, and letters are not pronouns. I’m not offending anyone’s gender by suggesting that using “þ” instead of “th” when trying to communicate in English on the internet in 2024 is counterproductive.
Two, gendered pronouns are some of the very oldest words in English, and they are used very regularly. They are engrained in native English speakers from birth. Each of us has a very long history of thinking in terms of these gendered pronouns, and I will grant that those who are younger have an easier time of making gender shifts with pronouns than those who are older.
There’s a reason people aren’t using xe/xey, for example. Somebody just made it up and said “use it.” Language doesn’t work by fiat (unless we’re talking about a colonizer eliminating indigenous languages by literal force). In terms of gender neutral pronouns, we already have the singular “they,” which has been in use to some degree since at least Early Modern English.
I can wholly respect and support someone’s gender and refuse to use nonsense words at the same time. Think about where gendered pronouns are used: when one person talks to a second person about a third person. If that third person is genderfluid in some way, I’m going to use “they” when referring to them (see what I did there?), because the second person is most likely to understand what I’m saying.
And before you get all fucking uppity again, I’ve had many lengthy conversations about this and so many other gender issues with my son, who is, among so many other things, trans.
You aren’t owed prescriptive compliance just because you’re used to a worse system.
Let alone if you feel like going out of ð way to justify shitting on oðer people’s innocent fun.
Why are all thornies I ever saw complete nutjobs?
Because you’re on Lemmy and no one here seems to be, you included.
^ What did he mean by this?
Thornies is a pejorative I’ve never seen before, who does that refer to?
There’s unfortunately more people like this very guy
That didn’t really answer my question.
can we just go back to Homestuck-esque typing quirks?
Why? This is their post and they wanna use middle English. It’s not that big a problem for anyone else.
Are you just worried that it’ll become a more common trend? I don’t think that’ll happen. It’s just gonna be like scrolling by a ich iel post every now and again.
Drag likes the middle English. Drag thinks you just hate fun.
I think the assumption that people who engage in unconventional means of expression are attention-seeking speaks to a common insecurity people have about receiving negative attention themselves. They’re reflecting the social pressure to conform that they already surrendered to.
You can strap a watermelon to your neck and call it whatever you want, but don’t expect others to mistake that for a personality.
Referring to yourself in the third person is cringe as fuck
Agreed, but I also kind of like it? It’s a fun cringe, if that’s a thing.
Drag isn’t referring to dragself in third person.
What do you call it then? Because that’s what’s happening here
Unless “drag” refers to someone/thing else entirely, which context heavily implies otherwise
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It’s a person independent neopronoun
Cute, but no it’s not
Its a nickname, your username shortened. That’s a proper noun whether you pretend to use it otherwise elsewhere or not, as context is important in communication
I do like the trolling effort though so keep on keeping on
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while i appreciate your random internet stranger opinion, I fail to see how dragonfucker hurts or inconveniences any of us 🤷♀️
like yeah i get you dont like it but isnt your comment just a teeny bit more cringe as fuck?
They’ve been inconveniencing me by following me around and harassing be because they didn’t understand my simple point that ‘they’ applies to all humans.
They harassed me over calling Caillou ‘he.’ As in the cartoon toddler. Seriously.
They also object to people using the word ‘you’ to address them, which is fucking stupid.
No.
If someone is so socially inept and surrounded by equally socially inept people who don’t call out this behavior, then it’s possible they don’t have anyone who is part of society at large that would inform them of how their actions will be perceived by most members of the public.
I’m not commenting because it hurts me in any way. I’m commenting because this person is going to have a relatively difficult life socially if they continue with the behavior they currently exhibit.
The gut-reaction to call someone cringe is a natural expression of the human desire to conform to social norms. They are insecure about their own differences so they enforce conformity in others by trying to humiliate them, the way they have been. In a strange way they could see it as helping them to avoid further humiliation. They’re saying “cut it out” with an implied “or else people will not accept you.” It’s pure instinct.
You complete me.
Does the ceasefire involve taking over Gaza and turning it into Israeli settlements? Where would the people be moved this time? It was the last part of Palestine that did not get governed by Israel. Biden caused so much destruction to the Palestinian cause.
It worked for “Tricky Dick”. He just didn’t feel the need to go blabbing it to everybody because back then you couldn’t get elected without at least pretending to have morals.
Worked for Reagan, too.
This would normally totally annihilate a presidential run. Fucks sake, they were ended by a guy saying “please clap” or having a weird laugh.
But then again, only cultists vote for this man.
Trump does something of this nature every week and I read this same comment every week.
Nixon did the same during the Vietnam war. He just wasn’t public about it. Same with Reagan during the hostage crisis.
There are no rules if there is an “R” next to your name.
It’s not just the Maga hats. There is a substantial amount of the population that thinks claims like this are just muckracking by “the other side”, and that he is really the better candidate in terms of economy, border security, and traditional values.
This would normally totally annihilate a presidential run.
What annihilates a Presidential Run is heavily predicated on the propaganda machine surrounding the candidate.
In this case, you’ve got an American media that is fully in bed with the MIC and a big client state of the MIC generating enormous returns through procurement.
Why would a conglomerate that profits off sale of arms to Israel want a ceasefire? Why would media owned by these conglomerates bad mouth a candidate that promises to increase military aid and Pentagon spending?
For the same reason you see glowing coverage of Saudi Arabia, Dubai, the Philippines, and India, you’re going to keep seeing us love bomb our favorite genocidal dictatorship in the Middle East.
Will Dems hold Bibi accountable?
Oh they won’t?
Worse than same.
worse than the same? this must be a mental lapse or just bad faith. I mean I would totally understand “not enough” but “worse than same”? Are you living in a parallel universe? The moment Trump is elected you will start seeing people rallying for more support to Israel and probably sending American troops over there.
"Mayor Quimby even released Sideshow Bob from prison!
Vote Sideshow Bob."
I’m not supporting Trump, I’m wondering why Israel is so central to democratic policy when they have literally done everything in their power to elect Trump?
I can’t imagine anything besides corruption or kompromat at this point. Literally nothing else makes sense.
I’m not supporting Trump, I’m wondering
Just Asking Questions, is all
It is old geopolitics.
Israel, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, etc. benefit greatly from doing things the way the US likes. They make massive amounts of money, get a massive military to keep enemies at bay, they get to keep deciding how much crude oil costs, and they get massive amounts of weapons. In return they all spy for the US, allow the US to put massive military facilities in their countries, and protect the petrodollar.
It is that simple. The Palestinians have very little wealth, military, and political clout. So they get run over by the machine. Is it horrific? Yes. Is it easy to understand? Also, yes.
I’m not supporting Trump
That comment you made above is supporting Trump. You saying you’re not supporting him makes no difference.
Criticizing Dems cowardly weakness isn’t supporting the thing they’re afraid of.
And criticizing spoiler third party shills isn’t supporting genocide.
They aren’t a spoiler where I’m standing. Undecided voters aren’t here. You have a lot of nerve to call anyone a shill with that rhetoric.
They aren’t a spoiler where I’m standing
Cognitive dissonance will do that to someone that chooses to forego critical thinking.
You have a lot of nerve to call anyone a shill
Thanks friend!
Calling them
Worse than same.
Is.
You’ve literally said they’re worse than Trump.
Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, at least it’s an ethos.
Cool. Completely irrelevant to what I said.
Reported.
So your reaction to learning that Trump is actively sabotaging peace talks with Israel is… Blame the Democrats?
Seriously smooth brain conservative take, holy shit.
White American College Socialists have NO RIGHT to call ðemselves allies to my people while ðey fight like ðeir life depended on it to go unjudged for ðeir consistent and strident efforts to assist ð cause of ðis genocidal bastard who has now blasted out on live TV he is actively hindering ð effort to stop ð bleeding because Israel knows who will be more amicable to ðeir efforts to continue ð genocide.
Ðere is no excuse to hide behind any longer. To defend letting Trump win, be it by þird party voting, be it by not voting at all, be it by being ð ultimate accelerationist copium inhaler and voting Trump directly, is to actively sanction ð continued and accelerated genocide of ð Palestinian people, among countless oðers.
Vote for Harris, or be counted wið ð rest of ð collaborationists when ð people who actually need revolution rise up against your mess and begin instituting justice.
Ð cause of ð Palestinian people is singular, wherever in ð world we walk. To support ðis man and his allies among ð genociders is to march against our cause.
Our cause: Bedna N3aesh. We Want To Live.
Why write “the” as “ð” instead of “ðe”?
Maybe they pronounce it “ðə”, and they’re implying the schwa by default
Kinda, but also it’s a shorthand borrowed from similar spelling reforms, namely Shavian.
Makes sense like how you would say “B makes the bə sound” implying schwa. If “Ð makes the ðə sound” already, it can be substituted.
Borrowed from oðer writing reforms in which ð equivalent letter is also shorthanded for “the”
I have a whole load of ðem, but stick to just using ð and þ because ð prescriptivists would never shut up if I brought out ð whole bag of fun.
You don’t feel like bringing a massively distracting schtick to a political post detracts from your point? Trump is openly rætfuçking the election, lóók at mï!
What fucking point? The whole personality is engagement farming. The title is “hey tankies, look at me”, the text is “everyone, I’m special”, it’s like the relaunch of the PenguiN OF d00m holds spork !!1
You get away from reddit, and they just remake it from first principles, I swear.
Capturing the lucrative Lemmy market, lol
Please please please continue to not let anyone give you shit.
Seconded. I’ve considered trying this out myself.
A desire to be arbitrarily special
He can say what he wants. He can endorse Adolf Hitler and nobody will bat an eye. Meanwhile Kamala has to watch every letter that crosses her lips.
He said himself, in early 2016 I think, that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and he wouldn’t lose any votes.
But why is that actually? It baffles me.
It’s all propaganda. Biden gave the terrorist state of Isreal $18 Billion in American tax dollars this year alone. That’s $13 Billion more in a year than the average of $5billion per year for the last 75 years.
I don’t know wtf Dildo Tramp’s angle is here, but both parties are Zionist boot lickers who’ve continuously funded genocide. I don’t know why he would try and make his opponents look less evil than he is, and also piss off his skinhead supporters.
Edit: to be clear, you should still vote Harris because it’s the lesser evil option in this fucked up circus. But denying reality makes you just as bad as air-headed trumpets. Both sides are owned by the same corporate interests and mega-rich, and we need to abolish this 2 party system, not make-up fantasies that one side is actually good.
Nobody is debating the fact that Trump is 1000x worse and also has and will continue funding Isreal if elected.
That’s how you know the downvotes aren’t from the progressive side. We don’t downvote facts or minimize genocide.
Biden did? I thought Congress made decisions involving the purse?
It’s all propaganda. [5 paragraphs of propaganda]
Welp, you got that right
I presented facts, that’s all.
I challenge you to find any inaccurate information in my comments.
I said multiple times I’m voting Harris, but that’s not good enough for fascists and zionists, you need to re-write history to fit your narrative.
Some gifts just wrap themselves, don’t they?
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What exactly do you mean by “controlled opposition?” Be very clear on this.
Waiting for you to find any inaccurate information in my original comment and elaborating why you think my fact based comment is propaganda, and not the corporate media story I’m commenting on.
Immediately trying to change the subject and cherry pick other parts to argue about.
Sexism.
I keep forgetting that there was never a female president before. I’m German and 16 years of chancellor Merkel are pretty fresh in my mind still. I was 11 when she got into office, kinda crazy to think about.
Tbf, ð role to role equivalent of ð chancellorship in ð US would be speaker of ð house, and we had Nancy Pelosi for almost just as long before she retired as well.
Only reason we don’t þink ðat way about her is because ð independent executive has inflicted upon us a grievous insistence on still existing.
There is more to it than that. It definitely plays a part though.
True, it was the same for Biden. I also don’t think this only applies to Trump and America. I live in Europe and saw it happen in my own city. The right-wing sitting mayor was framing his opponent for being a communist supporting the Taliban, which was an absolute lie. Buddy only advocated for affordable housing and public transport. Though there was something to be said about his lack of plans to achieve that, it’s probably better than just letting the free market do its thing. Anyways the media framed the sitting major as the sensible one, regardless of the lies he told, and he won the elections by a mile.
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Calling dissenters fascists and Zionists violates rule 1. Please keep it civil.
People can disagree with your view, or your delivery of your view. That doesn’t make them s Zionist or fascist. They just means you’re failing to communicate. In communication, the onus lies squarely on the sender.
This is a friendly warning.
Because Republicans have chosen Trump as the leader of their in-group, and everything they say and do is just sound bytes for getting him in power and abusing the out group, no matter how inconsistent, hypocritical, or false it is. They don’t actually think what they mock the left for is bad, but if they can use it to justify being against them, they’ll use it.
It’s actually worse than that IMO, they’ve imprinted on him as a surrogate for themselves. To attack, challenge or abandon him now would be to do that to themselves.
He definitely represents their animus. A projection of their perverse fantasy of disrupting the “corrupt government” sold to them by decades of hate radio.
If you ever listened to Rush Limbaugh you already know how these people think. They have been spoon fed lies their entire life.
Feeling even an ounce more assured in getting away wið saying ð N-Word wiðout facing social consequences is a potent enough high for ðese slimeballs ðat ðey will literally hand him ðeir newborn child to rape on national television so long as he keeps ð supply coming.
Harris followers are better people with higher standards than Trump followers.
Fuck both those zionist bootlickers.
That said, I’m voting Harris this time, since the alternative isn’t an option, but, we still have to destroy this 2 party, oligarch ruled system and start from scratch. Enough is enough. Time to eat the rich.
These are good opinions, but can you say them two weeks from now? Drag doesn’t think they’re productive right now. They’ll be great in two weeks.
Has he not literally been doing that? I’ve been seeing articles about how much he looks up to Hitler. And he quotes him. He’s not being subtle, at least.
Videos talking about building a unified Reich, talk of immigrants polluting the blood of the nation, a lot of talk from his orbit about cultural Marxism, all the shared enemies (other than Israel, who are now the genocidal fascist ethnostate he aspires to), Nazis consistently turning out to support him… It’s straightforwardly Nazi bullshit. At least Hitler did prison time for the beer hall putsch - Jan 6? Fine, apparently.
In his first campaign it was said that the only book he kept and actually read was the English translation of Hitlers speeches. He has never really shied away from his adoration of the mustache man.
Is there a real citation for this? Something that’s not on Twitter? “The Daily Edge” doesn’t even have a website of their own.
I’m going to assume these daily conversations are still unproven, unless someone shows me a better citation.
it looks like he Said he spoke with him 2 days ago, and a couple times. besides that, the “daily” conversations are extrapolated from him having talked to mentioning out how a few times just this week and him saying that “regularly” talk, as far as I can tell, or it’s just referring to their near daily talks this week.
and the video does have him saying bibi calls him and talks to him a lot and maybe biden’s going to drop a bomb on Israel so they don’t talk to Biden.
