The subjects that you can’t even bring up without getting downvoted, banned, fired, expelled, cancelled etc.
Communism & Palestine
Anything pro-suicide
Medically assisted suicide is pretty widely accepted in Canada, in my experience. Pro non medically assisted suicide or young suicide is different, maybe.
Non medically assisted
Oh that is a good one. Thanks.
All drugs should be legal and regulated.
Is it worth it, drug warriors? All the unnecessary deaths at the hands of police/gangs/cartels and unregulated drugs of a unknown potency? Was it worth sacrificing all our civil liberties on the vain funeral pyre that is the United States of America?
When humanity is victorious in the drug war and all drugs are legalized, will drug users criminalize sobriety?
Will people high as fuck demand everyone to piss in a plastic cup to make sure they are high?
Will drug users ruin sober people’s lives with felonies and time in prison with hardened criminals?
Will drug users dissolve civil liberties and prop up a bipartisan police state that gives cops a license to kill?
NO!
Who would want to do that to someone? To a fellow human for doing what they want with their own bodies? Prohibitionists… that’s who. And we are not them
Nothing lasts forever drug warriors. Tick tock. We will be free one day, and you will wail and moan and your cries will fall on deaf ears.
Get fucked prohibitionists. Feel fortunate we want justice, not retribution.
Now playing The War on Drugs - Red Eyes
But jobs
I know it’s very on the nose and has other themes in it. But the root cause is all the same. Reagan. This is the song I thought of reading the post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lIqNjC1RKU
I don’t necessarily agree with everything said in the song, but I think we can all agree (to quote the song) “I’m glad Reagan dead”.
Is this not a relatively mainstream belief?
Very much not the case, no
They’ve caused a lot of damage though restricting access would likely help with that. (Things like this usually get quite a few downvotes in my experience tbh so maybe it goes both ways)
My pretty spontaneous solution compromise would be to legalize more things but keep them well regulated to avoid addiction and transition to similar regulations for already legal drugs. This seems like a solution that more people would be happy with. Obviously there would need to be help for people already addicted at least for drugs with similar withdrawal symptoms as alcohol.
“I’ve asked ChatGPT about xyz” , and “how to use chatGPT for xyz” in my experience gets me downvotes fast.
People are quick to presume you have no ability to fact check anything and that you will be following its advice blindly, (which mind you - you were never asking for in the first place) instead of asking a human, ever ( for example about medical conditions but not limited to that topic). People presume you are trying to eliminate the human factor out of the equation completely and are quick to remind you of your sins, god forbid you ever use a chatbot to test ideas, ask for a summary on a topic so you can expand your research later or get creative with it in any way. If you do, most people don’t like to know.
and are quick to remind you of your sins
On the other hand, it’s totally cool and good to drag around a big cross of contrarianism in a totally-not-self-righteous way because your treat printers were criticized, amirite?
I think the bigger problem is that each answer it gives basically destroys a forest
Okay that’s a valid point and one so far nobody comes up with. Congrats
To be fair: “For each answer it gives”, nah. You can run a model on your home computer even. It might not be so bad if we just had an established model and asked it questions.
The “forest destroying” is really in training those models.
Of course at this point I guess it’s just semantics, because as long as it gets used, those companies are gonna be non-stop training those stupid models until they’ve created a barren wasteland and there’s nothing left…
So yeah, overall pretty destructive and it sucks…
Training a model takes more power than what? Generating a single poem? Using it to generate an entire 4th grade class’s essays? To answer all questions in Hawaii for 6th months? What is the scale? The break even point for training is far far less than total usage.
Have you ever used one locally? Depending on your hardware it’s anywhere between glacially to a morgue’s AC slow. To the average person on the average computer it is nearly unusable, relative to the instant gratification of the web interface.
That gives you a sense of the resources required to do the task at all, but it doesn’t scale linearly. 2 computers aren’t twice as fast as one. It’s logarithmic. With diminishly returns. In the end, this means one 100 word response uses the equivalent of 3 bottles of water.
How many queries are made per hour? How does that scale over time with increased usage of the same model? More than training a model. A lot more.
Yeah you make a really good point there! I was perhaps thinking too simplistically and scaling from my personal experience with playing around on my home machine.
Although realistically, it seems the situation is pretty bad because freaky-giant-mega-computers are both training models AND answering countless silly queries per second. So at scale it sucks all around.
Minus the terrible fad-device-cycle manufacturing aspect, if they’re really sticking to their guns on pushing this LLM madness, do you think this wave of onboard “Ai chips” will make any impact on lessening natural resource usage at scale?
(Also offtopic but I wonder how much a sweet juicy exploit target these “ai modules” will turn out to be.)
It’s really opaque. We won’t know the environmental impact right away. Part of the larger problem is, while folks like you and I make a sizable impact, it’s nothing compared to enterprise usage at scale. Every website, app, and operating system with an AI button makes it even easier for users to interface with AI leading to more queries. Not only that, those queries and responses are collected and used to further make queries.
Should the usage of AI stay stable, improved hardware would decrease carbon output. We should be cautious coming to that conclusion. What is more likely is that increased efficiency will lead to increased usage. Perhaps at an accelerated rate with the anticipation of even more technological breakthroughs down the line.
All that said, I’m really not a doomer. It’s important we all consider the cost of our choices. The way I see it, we are all going to die eventually. I’m old enough it will probably be from something else.
I think the bigger problem is that each answer it gives basically destroys a forest
That, and it’s filling once-useful search engines with useless and even dangerous gibberish.
Yeah, that’s a big one. Search engines had been getting worse, but the decline was turbocharged after all the LLM hype. Search engines are practically unusable now
LLMs, in their primary and most common uses, are planet-burning trash, but the important thing is the contrarian in this thread found a way to feel superior to those that don’t like when material conditions get worse.
well then its all been worth it
If you have fact-checked it, why not just say that wherever you did that is where you got the answer from? People are right to be skeptical of “ChatGPT says so”, and if you’ve used it as the start of your research rather than as your entire research then just saying “I asked ChatGPT” is no different to “I googled it”, and nobody would much like you saying that either. How you found the information is less important than where you found it.
This are precisely the kind of presumptions people make. I’m never making an argument “because ChatGPT says so”. And yes you are absolutely right - chatbot answers are on par with search engine results if not even less reliable in occasions. My point is that I’m not using any of the information as evidence, counterpoints or even advice. People take a stand as if I were.
For example, once I asked ChatGPT about a sensation I feel on my skin after heavy exercise, because googling didn’t give me satisfactory results. GPT didn’t either, but it gave me a list of close matches. The sensation itself was never a problem for me, never something I intended to change, was never something I would consider going to a doctor for and if I never knew what was causing it my life would carry on just the same. I was simply curious. And out of curiosity I asked here, and the majority of the answers were “you shouldn’t be asking to randoms online, how dare you”, “this is a question for a doctor, don’t ask for medical advice to a chatbot” - both stances baffled me. Never in my post I said anything that suggested I was in pain, discomfort, or that I wanted to change anything about it, or that I was expecting people to tell me how to make it go away- nothing. I just wanted to know what it was, period. People presume.
ChatGPT is awful for the environment and should not be used
For legal reasons I cannot have any opinion on the following: Gestures broadly at everything in the Middle East
You are more than welcome to choose from one of the pre-prepared opinions that we have on offer here… no need to bring anything new to the table and confuse such an obviously binary subject.
I hesitate to say
Close enough. Ban him.
“ChatGpt is really good if you use it properly”
Gets torrents of down votes every time. But I literally use it a lot at work and it’s brilliant.
This is my answer too. It’s crazy how much hate a tool can get
I’d probably also develop a short temper about spanners too if they were being shoved in my face by tech companies as hard as chat bots are
Spanners?
Wrenches ig
British English term for wrenches.
North American term for English Wenches. I think Hoe’s are another tool misused in this manner.
We’re excited to announce the new Sony WH1000XM6 headphones, enhanced by the power of spanners!
I don’t see why my headphones need a sp-
Conveniently built in to your headset, you can use the spanner to adjust bolt tightness on-the-go!
Okay, but that’s not wh-
We’re proud to be leading the market in spanner-augmented products to bring a new level of convenience to your life.
…
Spanner may sometimes only appear to tighten bolts. Please don’t ask us the energy cost of manufacturing the spanner.
If you only use it for cheating in work that won’t be read by a human anyways, it’s great!
Depends what you use it for. If you are trying to provide something informational, I do not trust chat gpt.
If you use it to respond to work emails because they force communication for the sake of communication, then its fine.
So, if you use it properly. Just like you wouldn’t use a fork for soup despite it being a utensil and food. Using a tool for what it’s good at and avoiding using it for things it’s bad at is part of using it properly.
I used it to help me create a level 10 DND character for a one shot and it was great for that
Pineapple on pizza.
Add some jalapeño as well to take it to another level
approaching literally any ideology from first principals
Oh good one!
Women create most of their own issues and then blame men for not fixing them.
Obviously I’m not saying all their problems cause men are pretty fucked but most of the problems women complain about are because of other women.
Especially when it comes to beauty standards.
I wouldn’t have realy thought so, but since you are getting the downvotes, I guess you are right! I’ll upvote you since you’ve apparently found a taboo subject.
People presumably aren’t downvoting because it’s a taboo, they just think he’s wrong. Because that’s a fucking idiotic take.
I was really tempted to stop reading after the first sentence - this sounded like it was going to be an incel thing. That’s probably part of it.
Yes, toxic femininity is a real thing too. Many women are willing to acknowledge that in my experience, though.
Some do, but not nearly all of them. The block button is very effective against that. Especially if you’re on an instance that has downvotes disabled
Religion, Politics, Political Genders, and…maybe Football. The real football.
What makes a gender political? First I’m hearing that term.
It’s a play on the joke “There are 3 genders, male, female, and political”
The real football
The nuclear one?
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People of color seem to perform amazing in athletics compared to other races in America (see: American football, basketball). Makes me think that Americans hyper-evolved their slaves by selective breeding. Unfortunate and extremely unethical, but maybe possible? Idk.
That breeding programme called natural selection is what got us all here.
It’s possible it’s for other reasons, though. Black Americans are generally poorer than other Americans, and success in sports is a ticket out of poverty that is accessible to people in that position. It could also be a cultural thing; I doubt Finns are genetically predisposed to be exceptional drivers, but they are still wildly over-represented at the top level of motorsports for such a small population
I heard that a similar breeding program happened in some African cultures back in the day. Like you could only breed if you were an alpha hunter or somesuch.
So that’s how you get a race of 7’ tall dudes
I’d believe it if a good portion of black americans I’ve seen are tall and muscular, but I’d say their proportions are similar to their white american counterparts, i.e. a spectrum.
I think they just want it more, and its one of the few paths to success they have.
That actually can be explained by the slaves that used to live in the farmhouses. They were treated as an elevated status and allowed to eat more. Think like the “aunts” for the children; caretakers.
But they were exceptions, not the majority who were slaves/workers. You’d still expect a heavy selection bias for good body attributes if you sampled them at random, assuming OP’s hypothesis is true.
I feel like I’m not good with words, so when I criticize popular things like Baldur’s gate 3 or Witcher 3 I usually get downvoted
People put BG3 on a massive pedestal and any sort of valid complaint around launch was heavily downvoted. It’s not quite as bad now, thank god. I got gaslit so much. Everything was my fault supposedly, not their perfect, polished game.
I don’t remember the exact complain, but I think I said something about battles taking too long and someone ratio’d me with a comment “skill issue”
That’s how I feel with nearly any online conversation. I’m on the spectrum and have social anxiety. Not a fun combo for trying to be understood when being critical about anything really. Let alone someone’s favourite game.
