• @[email protected]
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    What a shocking surprise. Why stop there? Why not charge him with genocide? Bring him to The Hague and charge him with war crimes?

    • deaf_fish
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      Billionaires are reading this post and thoughtfully taking notes.

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    As a person who grew up in American schools post-Columbine, with kids in schools now, and none of us are CEOs, this is probably the take that saddens me most about this whole event. It’s our kids, and the argument used to be about freedom. Soon, we won’t even have that. What was the fucking point? (Rhetorical: profit)

    I know we’re all alive at a special time in humanity. We think we’re so civilized. Then I look around, and it’s the same history playing on repeat. When do the monkeys figure out it’s one species? (Rhetorical again: 😬)

    • Dragon Rider (drag)
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      People aren’t all the same species. People with human bodies come in lots of species on the inside. For example, drag has a pet dragon whose body is human. The world is much more interesting after you realise everyone’s different.

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                That’s a really weird and gross way to talk about drag’s fiance.

                I agree.

                It was drag who first described drag’s fiance as a dragon in a human’s body (weird but cool), and as an owned pet (gross and toxic). Weird-ass dragonfucking I’m fine with, but ownership is gross.

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                  So you’re a vegan, then?

                  Or do you only think ownership is wrong when it’s consented to?

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        For example, drag has a pet dragon whose body is human.

        Yeah, I’m all for pronouns and shit, but no. You don’t.

                • Dragon Rider (drag)
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                  Well you see, drag is a dragon rider, and drag the dragon rider rides a dragon. If you’d like to know more about this kind of relationship, you should read Eragon.

              • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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                They said they have a pet dragon whose body is human. I’m not sure how to parse that, but it could be quite disturbing.

                • @[email protected]
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                  It is disturbing to have a body that doesn’t align with my species. If you mean my very existence makes you uncomfortable then kindly shut the fuck up and live and let live.

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          Because this multiple species take has been a basis of slavery in the past.

          people aren’t realizing this is that crazy guy who thinks he’s a dragon and refers to himself in third person.

          • Dragon Rider (drag)
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            Drag doesn’t use he/him pronouns, and doesn’t identify as a guy. You’re allowed to disagree with drag’s gender identity and think trans people should only be allowed to identify as genders you approve of, but assigning an entirely new gender onto drag is taking things a bit too far.

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            No one’s enslaving anybody. Dreg’s just being a based otherkin and living beyond the limitations of human existence.

    • @[email protected]
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      On the plus side, maybe this will actually result in some kind of reasonable gun legislation that will trickle down to a reduction of general gun violence. Maybe. Hopefully. Sometimes all it takes is showing the leopard party that their faces are also in danger.

  • @[email protected]
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    I love how they media seems shocked whenever they find Americans who have been radicalized, when one of their counterparts have been radicalized Americans for the last handful of decades.

    • @[email protected]
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      That’s on purpose - by acting shocked they expect viewers to react the same way. It’s essentially telling their audience how to feel about the story without outright saying “you should feel like this”.

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        The same way the laugh track in sitcoms ques the audience to know that something was supposed to be funny. Try watching those shows without the laugh track and see how funny they feel or how often you laugh

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    That might be a good thing, because making a terrorism charge stick is going to be should in a just world be really really difficult.

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    It pretty neatly fits the definition of (individual) terrorism (which doesn’t really exist). It was an act of violence, not based on personal grievance with the direct victim, but based on grievance with the system he represented. But, yeah, they probably wouldn’t ever pull that when someone gets murdered for racist reasons, which you could also classify as terrorism.

    🎶 Because it’s about class and not about justice. 🎶

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      Seemed pretty personal to me. The ceo was directly responsible for years of painfor this man.

    • @[email protected]
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      For what it’s worth, we do have hate crime laws that are supposed to be used in cases where racism is at play. I’m not saying it’s always used, but we do have additional penalties for it.

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      This is kinda the OG definition of terrorism actually. Back when 19th century anarchists invented this hot new direct action political tactic called terrorism. It was all the rage, for a while, but it backfired and increased public sympathy towards the bourgeoisie and the nobility.

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      You know that the gun was printed right? You could ban all guns and you would never stop someone from making a homemade gun.

      There are people in European countries where it’s completely illegal to even own ammunition, they are perfectly able to make fully automatic rifles.

      I don’t say any of this as a bad thing btw

      Unless there is a plan to strip violent people of firearms, I’m going to continue to make my own and train twice as much as they do.

      ARM THE LEFT

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          Dude there’s an entire community of people reloading their own cartridges. You will not legislate your way out of this.

          There are people creating 50 cal rail guns that use only electricity. No explosions, infinitely reusable

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      Nah, CEOs dying is beautiful.

      Defending CEOs is awful.

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      Too many guns, too many people willing to shoot those guns, not enough politicians prioritizing mental health

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        Gun was printed. Do you realize that there is no stopping 3D printed guns now?

        I’ve been in the community for many years, reluctantly due to their right wing tendencies. People are making 50 cal sniper rifles, 38 mm grenade launchers, and fully automatic submachine guns.

        My little AR pistol runs at 10 rounds per second. Legally

        All at home.

        The Glock used by Luigi is an old design. He just made the most reliable one (ignoring the silencer issues)

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          One can be pro-gun and for regulation at the same time.

          Disarm the violent, arm the nonviolent. For life.

          If you so much as strike another person in anger, instantly banned for life.

          Luigi was a non-violent person, he didn’t do what he did to watch a man’s head explode. He did what he had to do

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              I wonder how long it’s going to take for you people to join the right side of the class war.

              You are not one of them. The second your child gets sick you will understand

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                  You are right, wars are not one-sided.

                  Every single year 15,000 people die just because of the claim denials from United healthcare alone. Under the leadership of Thompson, UHC committed five times the death toll of 9/11…each year

                  1 vs 15,000. Do you attribute more value to the life of a CEO then a working class family?

                  More and more people are becoming suicidal because of the way that this country is turning into the hopelessness that it drives into their souls.

                  Mark my words, this is just the beginning. Why kill yourself when you can take out someone evil beforehand?

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        Mental illness like forcing your employees back into the office when they did the job remotely just fine for two years

  • @[email protected]
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    I mean, terrorism is just politically motivated violence.

    This country was founded by terrorists.

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    Yeah, trying to upcharge this from murder to “terrorism” is going to backfire spectacularly in the prosecutor’s face.

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      Let’s hope. But as we all know truth is financially dictated in our “justice” system, so it is a gamble.

  • @[email protected]
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    Who do we charge with terrorism for people being forced to watch their loved ones die from preventable causes that were denied treatment and cures by insurance companies? Asking for some revolutionaries I might or might not know.

    • @[email protected]
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      Your request has been received by Lobbying, Inc. For fastest service, please have proof of funds available.

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    Rumor has it, if you say, “deny, defend, depose” in your phone 3 times, you’ll get charged with terrorism too. Hopefully you’re an American citizen or else it’s off to Guantanamo bay for you.

    • @[email protected]
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      If you say “Gitmo Bay” three times in the mirror, a dark universe Obama appears and snatches you.

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          They just call it “interrogation.”

          (I just felt I had to add the “dark universe” because here in ours he’s comparatively pretty fucking alright when compared to the current leadership of the states. I criticised the US government back in his day as well, but the president isn’t a magical dictator and the longer it goes the more I miss him.)

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      The unconstitutional Patriot Act says they can do that to citizens too, as long as they’re suspected of terrorism. That’s why everything is “terrorism” these days, because under that accusation they’ll strip you of your constitutional rights and do whatever the fuck they want. It’s tyranny.

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        Still, as a person not interested (usually) in agreeing with my counterparts, notice how this is a “good guy with a gun” situation. So maybe militia movement has a point. They just don’t know how to use their correctness outside of their one part of society’s fabric, but that’s up to those who know those other parts. Cooperation and collaboration, all that.

        And almost any “good guy with a gun” can be called a terrorist formally. It’s an arbitrary separation.

        So maybe gun rights really are human rights.

        You’ve probably noticed how in any group the best decisions are made when every opinion is respected, and if it’s incomprehensible, made comprehensible with good and kind effort, and where aggression and expulsion are minimized.

        It’s the same in politics.

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            Yes, my aunts, uncle and cousin live in a country reproducing “Animal farm” the last 6 years, with the end goal of being occupied and turned into a reservation. That book is more like reality than many would think.

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        For the ones in the back: the presidential elections aren’t the only elections.

    • @[email protected]
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      If only the American people weren’t addicted to republicans and democrats. This might not happen.

      • @[email protected]
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        Our election system mathematically guarantees there will be only two useful choices. Any attempt to swap one of those out requires years of transition in which you are actively helping the side who agrees with you even less to win and move you further away from what you want.

        Until we have more ubiquitous ranked-choice-esque systems, that will not change.

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          Step 1 is voting for people who want to change the system - and they do exist

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            Yes, but this has to be done in a more local level. Trying to force a new party into existence starting at the federal level is not planning for success

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              Exactly, from the bottom up. Local candidates are probably the only ones you have a real chance of meeting and engaging with more often.

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      The death penalty is outlawed in New York, isn’t it? Not that he can’t have an “accident” or some shit in prison.

  • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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    They want to make Luigi an example. “Don’t do what he did, he’s being quickly processed with terrorism added to the charges. You don’t wanna be a terrorist do you?”

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      The complete lack of understanding someone who is pushed into a corner and has nothing to lose. Someone who expects the worst anyway.

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      … and in other news: Insurance CEOs are some of the best human beings walking on this Earth! Just this morning, one of them gave $50 to a homeless person who lost everything paying a hospital bill. What a golden heart!

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      It’s not that what Dylan Roof did wasn’t terrorism, it’s that he wasn’t in New York state. Same with that case involving Trump and property values, never would have been charged in Montana for that, everyone knows assessed value and real value are two different things.