Luigi Mangione shouts a message to the American people on his way to court:
“This is completely unjust and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and their lived experience.”
Obviously they want to make an example. They’ll drag him through the mud in court, reveal that he was sexually deviant, claim he cheated on tests in school, played video games, played d&d, worshipped Satan, on and on. Then, when they’ve dragged the court out long enough to bore people, they’ll execute him publicly and call it justice.
They won’t epstein him, too obvious and likely to generate martyrdom. Killing him like a “common murderer” shows that “the system works” and that the machinery of the state’s actions are natural and inevitable.
Or maybe they’ll try to just lock him away forever and get him to write some books to make the prisons a little more money. Works for serial killers, and sales of “How to murder a CEO” will help to defuse revolutionary sentiment by recuperating the murder as an exotic one-off situation. He’s gonna get simple-ricked.
played video games
I know you’re joking, but there’s already articles claiming him playing Among Us was proof he was a bad egg.
i am sure boomers will fall for it lol
but do they really expect that to not backfire with anyone who with two brain cell esp considered the game itself.
this guy played a game for kids!!! RHEEEE
He played as an ASSASIN in his college ESports team, terrible right? This tells you everything you need to know so don’t do any more research and certainly this video game was his motive.
That’s a great fantasy, but New York doesn’t have the death penalty, and he didn’t commit a federal crime. He won’t get the death penalty, he’ll likely get first degree murder and serve 30-life assuming they can show he targeted the actual victim and it wasn’t just the first person he saw that looked like they might be a UHG executive.
You think they’ll put him on death row?
not in NY state.
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He shouted to the media. Dumb editor.
What is the the punishment when a Duke’s son kills a Baron?
Mangione’s grandparents may be rich, but they’re nowhere near the level of a national company CEO rich. So you’ve got it backwards; this is like a Baron’s grandson killing a Duke.
People coming from privilege can still be progressive and want to enact change. I’m not sure why you’re denigrating this man and his actions based solely on the circumstances of his birth.
Ironically, they’re the ones with the most time and education to figure out the truth. Then their own (wealthy) family will turn on them when they try for change.
When it comes to class struggle, the best education is lived experience.
If that was true, the american working class would be more class aware.
Good point. Although in my experience rich people with good education are generally very bad representatives for the working class. The people I’ve met that do the best work regarding unionisation and organising are people who learned about class struggle through personal experience.
“And yes, I recognize the irony that the very system I oppose affords me the luxury of biting the hand that feeds. But that’s exactly why priviledged fucks like me should feel obliged to whine and kick and scream - until everyone has everything they need.” - Propagandhi, “Resisting Tyrannical Government”
No tea for a week?
Jihad.
(I don’t think enough people understood your comment, well done)
And then the golden path
They are going to crucify this guy.
Time to build some guillotines.
The class war is here, if you are not fighting you are bending over
The corporate media is in the manufacturing business…
They’re setting him up to be too scared to face trial, so he killed himself. They talked about how much he was shaking since he got approached by police, he’s pissing himself apparently. Dude is gunna get killed so he can’t talk on the stand. The last thing the oligarchs want is for this guy to have more of a platform.
Well the swine killed George Floyd.
If they kill him, protest is the only thing working class can do practically so gonna need to hit the streets.
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If they kill him they’ll have begun another American Revolution, this one freeing Americans from the evil capitalist scum.
Did you forget that an evil capitalist scum who’s only claim to fame is that he’s rich just won both the popular and the electoral vote?
I think a lot of you have forgotten who won the election.
Did Lee Harvey Oswald have kids?
Yes. Two. It would have taken you seconds to find that out.
Is there a point to your question?
Woosh. Forget it
Lenin’s coup needed 40k people. The Russian Republic had a population of 161 million people.
On a happier note, a single university protest against Stalin’s imperialism spiralled into events that briefly established an independent democratic socialist Hungary free from Soviet-Russian domination.
The question, if it gets to societal collapse and revolutions, is not “how many people can Trump get to vote for him”, but “what military strength can he get to Washington on short notice”. And it doesn’t matter “who has the guns”. It’s the US. Everyone can get guns at a moment’s notice.
Are you really comparing the conditions Americans are living under to the feudalist absolute monarchy under the Czar?
People in living memory were serfs at the time.
Lenin didn’t coup the Tsars, he couped the fledgling Russian Republic. The Tsar has been in prison for more than six months by then.
Nevertheless, the point still stands, a small amount of people can successfully overturn a government. If you need a more recent example, Jan 6th almost succeeded. Imagine if they were just as organized as Lenin’s people.
Not saying it would be a good thing.
Many revolutions and massive nation changes have happened so quickly that many never saw them coming. The Berlin wall coming down, the Duvalier’s and Assad’s reigns ending are three in relatively recent memory.
The thing is that the rich and powerful often miss the signs, if for no other reason than they fundamentally believe they are untouchable … because they are, until they aren’t.
What I find amazing is that the rich and powerful continue to be blind to the history of inequality and how many elites are killed, been overthrown and/or have to beg for asylum in foreign nations.
As measured, obtainable, and realistic as your goal is, I fear it will be ineffective. Protesting is practical, safe, and easily ignored. One CEO gets popped, and suddenly there’s murmurs, unified, across the political spectrum. The elites need to know the sheer terror of writhing masses, wielding blunt and rusty tools, awash with unabated malice.
The next protests won’t just be people holding signs…
The Americans typically do not protest like the French. There are moments in US history with violence and I wonder how many people will continue to fly the The Thin Blue Line because the police protect the property and interests of the wealthy.
So we didn’t get justice system reform after the George floydd protests. This is the 1% telling us the next one will have to be even bigger.
They could be setting up to test their response. Floyd protests caught them by surprise.
I was always wondering how Floyd’s death got picked as poster child when there were matter candidates from PR/narrative perspetive for the working class.
Taylor was a nurse murdered in cold blood due to botched warrant by local PD when they were going after her ex boyfriend. There was nothing bad to spin about her unlikely Floyd. Floyd did get liberal site going but official right narrative worked on critical of right working class. It was divisive.
Something tells me the protest would be far less organized and far more violent.
If Luigi is killed cities will burn
Please stay alive, Luigi. Regardless of whether what you did is right or wrong, and whether you actually did it or not, everyone needs you there (including both prosecutors and your defense).
Keep your message consistent, and any correspondence with the courts and police vetted by a lawyer so that it doesn’t get misconstrued.
Please have someone you trust by your side 24/7 or a live feed at this point. Please report any detainment conditions that might intentionally drive someone towards self-harm to the public. People everywhere are counting on you.
Has a comment ever been so close to an eternally echoed prayer as this?
Amen.
R’amen!
Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn!
That’s not dead . . . which can eternal lie, and with strange eons even death may die!
Hey I’m just saying, if any of y’all have family members who are currently incarcerated in NY or something, get them to protect him while he’s in the slammer.
I think they want to go through this as quick as possible, so they can lock him forever out of sight so people start forgetting. Kind of what they did with the Unabomber, although here people side more with Luigi, so who knows.
The absurdity of this guy getting a court hearing a day after his arrest, and Trump getting slow walked through all of his indictments over the course of four years is overwhelming.
You can tell who is really in charge when the system is so scared of this guy and his message that they feel the need to put him away as fast as possible while the media drags him through the mud along the way. The oligarchs are scared.
They are treating Luigi the way they should have treated Trump, they treated Trump the way they should be treating Luigi.
I think they could go through it, since one version of what is alledgedly his manifesto suggests he was not intending to make federal investigators’ jobs difficult so more or less willingly gets caught? I’m not sure. But I won’t forget, at least with my efforts to prevent corporate-owned healthcare from seepjng further into Canada.
Then why the monopoly money? This story doesn’t make sense. The government is lying to us.
Epstein was killed because he knew things and was still a threat to the rich. Luigi doesn’t have anything to say that would hurt the rich anymore. In fact, killing him in prison would be incredibly short sighted by the rich - they need to stop the rest of us from mobilizing in his honor - which killing him out of revenge would not accomplish. The same news sources that tried to make us care about the evil assassin and helpless CEO will now try to character assassinate Luigi and make him a pariah. He can’t galvanized a generation if he’s a weirdo.
Well we don’t know if Luigi is the actual assassin or not, a lot of reason to Epstein him if you know itll be obvious he didn’t do it, but still need a fallguy so you can maintain the illusion of control.
This makes me think of a fact I heard the others day; the reason “heretics” used to be burned was so that there was nothing left to have as artifacts to be worshipped.
Ie the ruling class was trying to avoid martyrdom of the burned.
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I agree they are already desperately trying to paint him as a bad person, but so far it had the opposite effect. They will probably come up with some definitely not made up “revelations” about him soon.
He was at the Diddy Party where he penned the script for Velma
There was already an article about him playing Among Us, and how he would play as the “assassin”.
Sooooo… They are already trying, even with the dumbest shit.
I read that, it was stupid and seemed to imply you opt in to be the imposter instead of it being randomly assigned, which would completely destroy the point of the game if it worked that way. Since the point is you don’t know who the killer is.
Completely nonsensical article, like it was written to cater to idiots who think video games cause violence.
I had thought that stupidity was thoroughly smashed years ago, especially with the rise in video game Ayers and decrease in violent crime, but… You know… Stupid finds a way I guess.
As citizens we can respectfully request the ACLU and NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund to get involved to ensure his human rights aren’t violated and he stays safe.
It’ll be harder for bad things to happen to him with non corrupt watch dog agencies keeping and eye on things and hopefully showing up in person to see he’s okay.
Might as well empower the few agencies who have our backs while we’re at it. Attention to prison reform is a good thing that can grow out of this too.
Edit - adding the aclu website link with the contact us page. I’m pretty sure we have to select Pennsylvania and contact the branch closest to Luigi.
What he did was right. Yes, much like how Hitler’s death would’ve been sad for Eva Braun had she still been alive, Brian Thompson’s death is sad for those who survive him, but the world is a brighter place for it.
Right, and I share your opinion, but even for those people who think any death is bad, would not be happy with Luigi dead either.
How’s he gonna have a 24/7 live feed from jail?
The US is disgusting. I hate this country so much.
What does he think is unjust? Hopefully he has some prison writings later that can be analyzed.
You wrote two sentences. The 2nd answers the first.
I don’t believe it does. It’s fairly clear he was the shooter, and shooting someone typically comes with a prison sentence. Care to explain your reasoning further?
Direct video clip https://imgur.com/mJbwzpQ
He definitely says “completely out of touch” (in an italian accent) and I think the fact that he’s saying that to a camera means he’s targeting the CEO-favored news coverage. I’m surprised not more people are picking up on that possibility.
So they did arrest the wrong man. How long before they “sucide” him?
Why would they do that? What would be the point of killing an (presumably) innocent man if the killer is still on the loose?
The Adjustor had 1 target (so far as can be told) and it took almost a WEEK to “catch him”, which took a tip in to police to manage
It wouldn’t be too out of the question to assume he won’t strike again and that any random fall guy is safe from a repeat attack blowing their plan to shit
Case closed, no loose ends
If the killer is still on the loose, the case is not closed and there is literally still a loose end.
They asked why they would kill a patsy. In theory it’s just to placate the public and reduce likelihood of copycats.
But if the killer kills again, the case is not closed and it is a loose end.
It is only closed if this was a one and done.
The ‘killer’ died in prison, therefore and new incident must be a copycat by someone who happens to look a lot like him. That’s a brand new case. /s
No that’s just a “copycat” who should be shamed for wanting to be like the “Evil” Luigi
To send a message and to look like they solved the crime. They feel confident the real killer will stay hidden or has left the country.
He killed for most likely ideological reasons, just cause he got away doesnt mean he is gonna stay away. Hell with these actions id say its entirely possible he may target someone sooner.
I hope he does get a few more, to also send a message.
Part of me hopes this happens before EOY, because I think it’ll really strike some fear into CEOs.
But, one can dream
This is America. We build whole industries (the insurance industry) around killing people for profit.
Won’t someone think of the GDP?!?
Who cares about GDP? The company board are the real victims here! Their profits are not minmaxed enough!
Buddy if you think the system is about “justice” I’ve go some news for you
Simple, they want the public to believe that if they follow in the killers footsteps, they will be caught and go through hell in order to dissuade other people who might do the same. There are obviously a lot of people who applaud his actions, so to try to prevent them from getting the idea that they can do this too, they make a show of force to make them think twice.
In the end it doesn’t matter if Luigi did it or not. As long as people are scared of the pinishment, they will hesitate to imitate.
Not true justice, but they never really cared about that to begin with.
The wealthy elite want an illusion of consequences for attacking them more than they need actual justice. They didn’t want the plebs thinking they can get away with attacking them, or else more will happen.
When police think they have right suspect they often do everything they can to prove that person did it. Essentially, once they have their targets set on a suspect, they shift from trying to figure out who may have done it to putting all their resources into finding evidence against the suspect and building the strongest case they can against them. This includes ignoring evidence that is counter to their theory and discontinuing investigation of other leads.
Their goal at that point is to convict. Because, to them, getting a conviction is success and the person going free is failure. Alternately, getting the person to “commit suicide” is success because they can claim that they were guilty and no trial is necessary.
It’s all about winning and getting a conviction because conviction=justice=case closed. And that means the public can rest soundly knowing “justice” has been served. Especially after PR has done their work.
Prosecutors are the same. They treat their job as finding anything and everything to get the conviction. Exculpatory evidence is ignored and buried. If “evidence” is planted/manufactured, they do their best to ignore and hide that fact and make said evidence look real. It’s the defense’s job to prove innocence. In theory, the police should be working to find and provide evidence for both sides, but the police and Prosecutors anre working toward the same goal, leaving the defense severely hindered.
This is the system that railroads people into conviction. They use the media to amplify their story and make it look like they are infallible. When information comes out that counters the police/prosecutor story, they circle the wagons to protect each other and discredit the information that contradicts them. Because they think that they are the good guys and even if they got something wrong, their original hunch must have been right.
This guy understands what Phoenix Wright is REALLY about.
OBJECTION!
In his mugshot they put him in a vest reserved for people who are a suicide risk. He is definitely going to get Epsteined
a vest reserved for people who are a suicide risk
I haven’t seen the picture but… Straightjacket?
No, it’s got like velcro on the shoulders or something from the look of it. I guess the idea is you can’t strangle yourself with it? I don’t know.
Not a straightjacket. More like a shitty shirt made from fabric you can’t tear to strangle yourself with. The real problem could be the conditions of suicide watch. Those can be torture and drive you insane, depending on the place.
Just saw the pic, they fucking turtled him?!
Someone called it like a turtle suit. Cuz it’s so cold in prison with it you have to curl up like a turtle to stay warm. Which is terrible because he has huge back issues.
them thicc piggies all got the same haircut that’s adorbs
American police once again showing to us how unfit for the job they are.
Mm 3,
I think the issue here is what you think the job is, not the other way around.
Maybe the (mostly) professionalism from other countries has poisoned my mind and the police should indeed treat everyone as vermin.
Whether they treat you professionally or not is irrelevant to the fact that their primary mission is upholding the state.
They are there to enforce the law and serve citizens. They are public servants. But in the US they are mostly there to protect the state and uphold their own ideals, yes.
However I was pointing out the lack of proper training, they immediately rush to get physical and grab the suspect by the neck as soon as they get a chance.
But in the US they are mostly there to protect the state and uphold their own ideals, yes.
Why do you think this is exclusive of the US?
I don’t, but the US is the topic of discussion here
You’re literally the one who brought up the comparison to other countries, buddy.
The police in the US are there to protect and serve the 1%, AKA the Oligarchs. It’s be wonderful if they actually wanted to serve and provide safety for their communities. I’m sure there are a few in every city that actually want to do the right thing but as a whole, police are basically only around to protect property and harass anyone they think might be a threat to said property, especially when said property is owned by one of the Oligarchs.
'“This is OCP property!”
Almost like the original RoboCop was trying to warn us about something. I had a thought but got distracted and can’t remember what it was.
Oh well, I’ll buy that for a dollar!
Well … um … you reported that he shouted in your headline but didn’t see the irony in what he was saying as you reported it. Nice job, Newsweek for supporting his statement through your actions.
I’m unsure if he means his arrest is unjust due to the order of magnitude worse injustice of the healthcare system or Luigi stating he’s not the culprit (vigilante, hero, The Adjuster - whatever noun floats your boat).
It seems like the former? Annoyingly unclear.
He’s claiming the police planted evidence on him as a attempt to justify denying bail. Specifically he says they planted a large amount of cash that he didn’t have on him ever and has no idea where it came from, and they lied about a waterproof bag he had for his phone, saying it was a faraday cage, and claiming his possession of such an item means he’s too sophisticated a criminal to be allowed bail.
He knows what’s coming. They aren’t gonna want him to get to speak to a jury because it’s not gonna be a guarantee they convict him. If he gets a not guilty verdict, that would be VERY bad for the ruling class, so that’s not gonna be allowed to possibly happen.
Yeah, I’m already extremely suspicious at the convenience of his arrest, given that there has to be a repercussion shown to the ‘plebs’ - can’t have them getting ideas now about the ease with which they could depose their ruling oligarchs and actually get away with it.
I didn’t know about those details regarding the evidence being planted, so his statement makes much more sense with that context, thank you.
I was suspicious the instant they called out the 3D printed “ghost gun”. While certainly possible, it was waaay too convenient an excuse given how that may have swung some opinions about gun safety and control. Now they’re rushing this.
Keep an eye out for thinly veiled attempts at obfuscation.
Whatever happened to it being a Welrod?
Goddess these news outlets don’t know shit when they publish shit.
The “3D printed gun” trope was taken back I think. They now claim that he only 3D printed the silencer. Some gun lobbyist probably donated a wad of cash.
They now claim that he only 3D printed the silencer.
It’s shit like this that reminds me how stupid cops are…
You can’t “3d print a silencer” it would just explode from the pressure.
I still remember when they tried to claim a plastic bag seen on footage of Rittenhouse was a “makeshift molotov cocktail”
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A Molotov Cocktail is already a makeshift weapon, that’s the point, the poor will always have access to alcohol and fire so it’s the one weapon the state cannot take from you.
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A plastic bag would make for a terrible molotov considering it can’t be thrown far and would just burn up in your hands if you tried.
A plastic bag would make for a terrible molotov considering
Gasoline melts plastic and would eat thru the bag…
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That wasn’t a 3D printed silencer in the video.
If it was, that material is way stronger than anything I’ve worked with.
Nowadays, you can print guns out of basic PLA. At least in .22 caliber, I don’t know about anything larger, though I do know 3d printed Glock frames are definitely a thing. A 3d printed suppressor is definitely feasible, as I’ve seen at least 1 design for PETG.
Now, as to whether or not that’s what can be seen in the video? Who knows. I certainly can’t tell.
So I’m not into firearms. Guns aren’t reaaally my thing. However, I imagine with quality material you need a larger silencer for a larger caliber, or a modified design to rapidly reduce pressure. It stands to reason then that with a design less capable of withstanding that pressure, you must then compensate with a larger design even at lower calibers. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, though this then stands to reason that even a .22 would need a much larger design, or a modified design which would by nature increase noise via gas release.
That said, a silencer doesn’t silence, it reduces. If he was as prepared as we think he was, he’d know that.
To be fair, I’m not sure if “just arrest anyone convenient and frame them”, is entirely in the wealthy’s interest here. Making an example is one thing, sure, but if you do that and dont get the guy that actually did it, then you have a guy out there who has proven themselves willing to go out and assassinate CEOs, who may well decide to do it again. If you do have the means to catch that guy, then what motivation is there to not just send him through the court system rather than framing someone else? Less risk of a frame up being discovered and sparking even more resentment if you have at least some genuine evidence, after all.
Could be both. They may know he is the guy, but they might not be able to say how they know it and by what means (extreme surveillance…) so they just frame him.
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The cops leaked/released a picture of him in jail after he peed his pants, likely from being teased or something.
And multiple of him in the suicide prevention room, which notoriously doesn’t prevent suicides, and is complete 24/7 isolation with only a weird smock.
It’s not to prevent suicide, it’s torture. So he’s likely screaming about how he’s actively being tortured.
He’s rich tho, his lawyer will likely get him bail.
It’s like insane this is the standard and no politician ever wants to address our system.
He’s rich tho, his lawyer will likely get him bail.
His grandparents are wealthy. His parents may be rich but might not be wealthy (they may or may not be, we only know about the grandfather’s extensive holdings and the expensive schooling).
It may sound like bullshit to people stressed about making rent, but middle aged people worth a few million aren’t wealthy. Like if you’re super lucky you can work for 20-30 years and own a house in or near a major city and have a enough of a retirement or pension to quit working when you’re old and have a reasonable lifestyle. I’m in a mid tier city and even here paying off your house or condo means you’re worth at least 500k. That isn’t “buy a politician” money. That isn’t “live in any country I want because I’m rich enough that everyone gives me citizenship” money. That isn’t “immune from health insurance fuckery” money. That isn’t “get away with murder“ money.
Anyway. A wealthy grandfather may be willing to help out with or pay for schooling. But it’s a coin flip on whether he’s gonna shell out hundreds of thousands or millions for a legal defense (and if he did, would he pull funding if the defense wasn’t to his liking?). From the granddad’s perspective, the kid is a class traitor.
I mean shit, GoFundMe is trying to stamp it out right and left, but there was donations for Kyle Rittenhouse…
Luigi is going to get a shit ton of money for legal fees, from pretty much every demographics. His generational wealth and connections mean he’s not going to get some ambulance chaser, he’s going to get an established law firm that will tear the state to shreds.
Honestly, this might be what finally pits the 1% against the 0.01%…
They’re not used to their own being mistreated, and (most likely correctly) assume if they unit with the other 98.9% of the country the wealthiest don’t have a chance.
When people like this are bucking the system, it’s not a good sign
I don’t have sources on me. But I’m fairly certain that in the French Revolution you had upper class supporters of the revolution, and maybe even some nobility. Most of the revolutions did, and they provided support to the revolution usually through some supply chain they had access to.
That being said, I could be entirely making it up, because that would have been more than a decade ago I learned it.
Well, I was sort of hoping for a happier ending than that, but they didn’t call it the reign of terror for not beheading 16,000 people.
Just because his grandfather was wealthy doesn’t mean that he is. Not destitute like so many, sure, but that’s not the same as being the 1%. I think I read that Luigi is one of like 37 grandchildren. That’s spreading things pretty thin.
I hope you’re right, but I’m just not as hopeful anymore.
Media will now work hard to turn him from hero to zero.
They gotta protect those sponsor dollarsp
Free Luigi
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