• rem26_art
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    75 months ago

    you come across headlines nowadays and have no clue this was even a thing people were grifting children about, man…

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    Man those parents. Oof.

    I do not wanna be in their shoes.

    Telling your kid that needed an emotional support robot friend that the robot friend is going to take a nap for a long time and might not wake back up? Ooo boy.

    Helping a kid through a divorce is hard enough. This seems like a terrifying nightmare.

    • GHiLA
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      105 months ago

      A parent with autism is probably seeing it as another “could’ve been” that they get to toss out now, likely paid for by insurance.

      I wonder how big that pile of products is, failed crap marketed to insurance companies and parents for autistic kids.

      Big business.

    • @[email protected]
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      385 months ago

      To be fair, electronics break all the time, and living pets die eventually - both things everyone needs to learn how to cope with, including children. This is just the Venn Diagram of those two pieces of reality.

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        65 months ago

        I imagine the children with these things are emotionally disregulated in some way shape or form. A small group of children sometimes don’t learn to self soothe when they are very young, others in ASD struggle with it for a lifetime. Some with ADHD have a very difficult time when their medicine wears off and their emotions kick back in to overdrive.

        For all those groups I mentioned, the whole concept of this thing was almost brilliant. Something that they can go to knowing it will be able to help them guide through emotions while mom and dad are doing something necessary like cooking or fixing something outside, or in the bathroom.

        If you haven’t had to deal with a child that has emotional regulation problems, then it is hard to explain the difficulty that the failure of this device will make. It is true that they will adapt it, they always do, that’s how things work. The problem is that the emotional disregulation leads to broken things at home, aggressive behaviors with peers, getting kicked out of preschool and day care, etc.

        It truly is a nightmare scenario. The parents have to prepare for all of these things and a new way to help their child through the limited existing means.

    • @[email protected]
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      Careful with that one. Big pharma killed my cat once.

      My cat came down with Feline Infectious Peritonitis which is a coronavirus that is lethal to cats when the virus mutates and becomes FIP. FIP is 100% fatal without treatment, and there is now a treatment (originally developed at UC Davis) that is now owned by a big pharma company. They shut down the feline clinical trials in 2020 because they also make Remdesivir, and there was a concern that if there were any problems with the feline drug trial, the FDA might not approve Remdesivir for COVID. You can buy the drug on the internet from China, but it’s a 12 week course of twice daily injections, and you’re gambling on whether you got a good batch every time you get a shipment.

      By the time we found this out, it was too late to save our kitty, so he crossed the rainbow bridge.

      • @[email protected]
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        I’m sorry to hear about your cat. 🫂

        Just to add on about FIP treatment— if your cat ever gets FIP then on Facebook look for “FIP warriors” or “global fip cats” (iirc) to find volunteers who can help supply medicine

        Also note that there IS an FDA approved compounded version but many vets aren’t aware about it, and even if they were aware since it is compounded they won’t have it in the office. This means that it will take a few days for you to order and treatment is often time sensitive from what I’ve heard.

        • @[email protected]
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          115 months ago

          FIP Warriors is who we went through, but it progressed too quickly because the fluid accumulation was in his lungs, not his abdomen.

          That medication is quite new to the market and wasn’t available when this happened about 4 years ago, but I will mention this to our current vet so that she knows about it.

      • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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        55 months ago

        A clamp (padded, preferably) on the scruff of the neck will temporarily brick a cat.

        Try this only with familiar cats with whom you have rapport.

        Don’t leave them for too long. A few minutes at most.

          • @[email protected]
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            15 months ago

            But he only said he scruffed them (if I am reading it right), not that he grabbed them by the scruff, is this apparently something that is considered abusive or something? If a cat claws at my leg and I pinch there to make it stop that is absolutely not the same as grabbing them there. I would never actually try lifting them that way.

            • lad
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              It doesn’t work on all the cats, though. Also, I heard that it’s not painful for a cat to be lifted that way, but I would prefer not to.

              Edit: I was wrong

          • Pennomi
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            45 months ago

            That’s where the term “catatonic” comes from, or so I’ve heard, and it’s a reflex because mother cats carry their babies by the scruff of their neck. From what I understand it’s totally harmless.

            Someone who actually knows these things can correct me if I’m wrong of course.

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        It’s not even a challenge, one drop of rogaine will brick any cat. All you have to do is touch them with it.

        Edit: don’t fucking do this you sickos.

        • @[email protected]
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          85 months ago

          oh my fucking god. is this why when I was a kid my friend’s cat went from super healthy to extremely sickly and died the next morning? his dad definitely used rogaine

        • @[email protected]
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          65 months ago

          I’m unclear, and I’m not going to do this, but what does that do? Is it poison to them?

          • @[email protected]
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            115 months ago

            It contains an enzyme their body cannot process and it effectively poisons them to death. I believe it attacks the nervous system.

            • @[email protected]
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              105 months ago

              Oh. Damn. Good thing I found this out.

              I mean, I never have actually touched rogaine, but this is kinda like when I was 4, and I was going to feed a dog a piece of chocolate. The dog wanted chocolate, I wanted to share, suddenly I’m getting my hand slapped and yelled at.

              Like c’mon! We JUST watched a seseme street last week about how good sharing is! Now my wrist hurts!

              THEN she tells me dogs can’t have chocolate! Like I’m just supposed to just KNOW a dogs digestive system! I’m still learning colors and shapes, and you’re asking me to know biology of dogs!

              So, no dogs have died from chocolate from me, and now I know if I lose my hair, and have a cat, I can’t have rogaine. Because I assume I’ll be sleeping, and you just KNOW my cat is gonna be the weirdo cat who licks people in their sleep. Suddenly I wake up with a dead cat.

              So good thing I learned now.

              • @[email protected]
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                75 months ago

                Turns out dogs are perfectly fine eating milk chocolate. I know this because I had a dog who jumped up on a table and ate an entire package of Hershey’s kisses once. We thought she was a goner, but poison control said she’d be fine and she was. High quality dark chocolate is what poisons dogs

                • @[email protected]
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                  25 months ago

                  Chocolate is what poisons dogs. There’s just a much higher concentration of it in dark chocolate than milk chocolate. Too much milk chocolate can still kill a dog, and “too much” isn’t even all that much. 8 ounces of milk chocolate for a 30 pound dog is enough to be concerned about.

    • GreyBeard
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      135 months ago

      you can’t brick my cat

      Have you tried putting socks on it?

  • The Infinite Nematode
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    15 months ago

    Read the title as “Starbucks will brick…”

    I was thinking that there’s a lesson here in not buying things that are non-core to the companies operations

  • @[email protected]
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    55 months ago

    Its 2024 and you cannot use a product the way you want to. Can’t you just use openAI api as the backend??

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    Buy anything that must login to a web server not located at your house and expect it to get bricked when that server doesn’t work anymore. Simple…don’t. Plus they are clearly gaining something from you.

  • @[email protected]
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    65 months ago

    Sorry Sally, Geoffrey has to die because a company wanted to make their products utterly dependent on their servers. We’ll bury him in the yard next to Gertrude.

    • @[email protected]
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      345 months ago

      It sounds like they literally can’t refund people because the company completely ran out of money and is gonna be liquidated. Sucky situation for all parties involved.

        • @[email protected]
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          25 months ago

          And who is going to pay for that? If they could afford to refund all their customers they wouldn’t be going bust.

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            Liquidatoon doesn’t mean they have no money. And they still have some assets.

            Also that’s why we should apply mandatory copy laws to software too.

          • @[email protected]
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            25 months ago

            The law would probably make sure customers whose products are being bricked are counted as creditors. Ideally after employees (unpaid wages) and before investors. They may not get full refunds, but they’ll be entitled to something if it’s possible.

        • bizarroland
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          Or a law stating that in the case fair refunds can not be provided that the software needed for running the hardware becomes public domain and is published and released on a git maintained by the library of Congress.

      • @[email protected]
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        35 months ago

        What they probably can do is issue an update that lets owners point it at third-party servers, and publish the API. They might even be able to publish the source code, though there’s a chance they don’t own all of it.

      • @[email protected]
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        45 months ago

        Surely in that case they could open their software so the community can figure out what it would take to keep it running.

          • @[email protected]
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            25 months ago

            Yeah, likely true without some sort of legislation.

            Well at least there’s a business opportunity for someone to reanimate these things and use them to push gacha games and energy drinks on the innocent children they’ve bonded with.

    • @[email protected]
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      75 months ago

      And Google refunded everyone who bought Stadia.

      But they both have deeper pockets than a startup.

  • @[email protected]
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    195 months ago

    I guess this device needed to connect to some remotely hosted server that enabled its functionality. And the company was losing money and hoping that sales would eventually pick up enough to make them profitable. But their latest investor decided not to put any more money in, and the company ran out of cash and can’t pay its bills anymore.

    The entrepreneur thought he could get more investor cash and ran the business in such a way that it would fall off a cliff if he didn’t. And… He failed to secure more financing.

    I have mixed feelings about products like this… If the device somehow needed to host an entire internet’s worth of data to function, it certainly wouldn’t have cost only $800. But when you buy a product that depends on the ongoing viability of the seller, you’re in a position of caveat emptor - You better vet them out yourself, especially if they’re new.

    Hopefully the founders feel some emotional attachment to their product and the trust bestowed upon them by their unknowing customers, and release whatever on the back end makes the thing work so that motivated customers could reactivate their devices somehow.