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We need to keep daylight savings and eliminate standard time. We’re on standard time right now. I hate it getting dark at 5pm.
For sure, it’s depressing as hell for it to get dark so early.
As someone in daylight savings time now, it’s still bright outside at 830pm and that needs to stop
As someone who doesn’t like the sun that thing needs to stop
Fuck DST. I hate it staying dark in the morning.
Fite me.
Seriously. DST fucks with my sleep schedule so badly when I have to get up before sunrise…
“Flying groin kick!”
While most people seem to say they prefer DST, research strongly supports permanent standard time.
I remember seeing some research draw this conclusion as well, but IMO it’s the wrong conclusion since a lot of the data in the studies I saw seemed to indicate the issues stemmed from the actual switch, not whether we did things an hour earlier or later. It’s that transition period that fucks things up. While I’d prefer permanent DST, I don’t care that much. I just want the endless, stupid dance to stop and never switch again.
2/3rd of the research in that link is anecdotal. Further, I still want DST to be permanent. I like it dark in the morning and light further into the day.
Exactly. I’d much rather have more daylight during “my” time after work than while I’m at work in the morning.
This has been bugging me of late so I’ll ask here even though FTR I hate that I agree with Trump:
Why don’t we just split the difference and offset by 30 min for the whole year/permanently?
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God no. The math with timezones is painful enough without having to deal with half hour offsets.
Actually, there are some timezones with offsets of half or even quarter hours, but the company where I work in software engineering doesn’t do any business in those timezones, so I’ve never had to deal with that particular brand of madness.
Just get rid of DST. It was never a good idea. “Noon” should mean that the sun is directly overhead (or at least directly overhead east-west-wise if not north-south-wise) and “midnight” should be the midpoint between any two adjacent noons. (Ok, yes, if you live on the extreme eastern or western edge of a timezone, then at noon, the position of the sun may be up to 7.5° off of directly overhead east-west-wise. But yeah.)
Because compromise makes neither side truly happy
We are already trying to compromise with switch back and forth.
30 minutes just makes it over complicated and satisfies neither side
30 minutes just makes it over complicated and satisfies neither side
What would be complicated?
Converting times to other timezones would be extra annoying.
It’s already too anoying to deal with.
Splitting the difference would be slightly easier, since it stops changing at arbitrary days of the year.It would still change at arbitrary days, because other countries will still use it.
Uhhh…the rest of the world being 30 minutes + however many hours different?
I personally don’t even care which one, I just want either of them and make it permanent.
Okay, I’ll choose, keep the sun up later. Make the day last till at least 7 PM in the winter. That way I can still see it after work. I don’t give a shit when I’m driving to work.
This would work great in some places, others might finish lunch as the sun rises.
I understand what you mean, BUT I live in AZ and Im not going to have AZ be both 30 minutes ahead of Cali, 30 minutes behind Utah, and an hour and 30 behind New Mexico. No, you all either fall in line with how time is supposed to work or you can keep doing your shitty Daylight Savings bullshit
I take it AZ doesn’t follow DST? I don’t see how springing ahead 30min instead of the hour next time and being done would cause that much of an issue
Im going to guess youre not from the US? Heres a Time Zone map with the States listed.
I got my own groupings of time zones a little twisted in my head, I didnt think New Mexico was Mountain Time. Regardless, Arizona and Hawaii dont follow DST. Shifting all the US states by 30 minutes for an arbitrary reason doesnt solve anything really and kind of just fucks with global time standards.
Just adopt GMT and make time meaningless.
Nah, not GMT. UTC. It’s the more accurate successor, and all computers already use it.
Not to mention, everyone will always know what time you are talking about anywhere in the world, and based on your own experience, you know if it will be during the day or not.
Timezones will no longer matter, making software handling time so much easier.
I support this idea however it will never happen.People are going to want 9 am to be when the sun comes up.
Switching to a different 24 hour clock won’t help. People are use to 10 being when the sun is up and 23 when the night is happening.
Having everyone on one time zone would be the best thing ever.
Having everyone on one time zone would be the best thing ever.
Have you really thought this through?
It’s 12 pm in New York.
It’s 9 am in California.
Sun rised at 7 am in NY today
Sun rised at 7 am in CA today
It was 10 am in NY when sun rose in CA
So let’s say we get on one clock.
That means sun rises in California at 4 am
So now everyone in California has to shift their whole schedule around that.
7 am sunrise, 9am-5pm work (Sun set begins at 4.5pm)
Would become 4 am sunrise, 6am-2pm work (Sun set begins at 1:30pm)
How is that the best thing ever?
This sucks because it means he absolutely definitely will not do this.
It’s just two weeks away bro, I swear
In other news, RFK has recommended extending this to eliminate both daylight and time.
It’s weird how I watched VEEP last year and here it is coming true.
Can we get rid of timezones and switch to UTC please
I don’t want it to ever be -03:00. That shit is confusing as hell.
Lol I think it would just be 3 am or 9pm depending on which way you are talking
God I hope he doesn’t ruin this long overdue improvement.
I want it to stay sprung forward, can’t remember if that’s DST or non. I feel like I’m in the minority, but fuck if I care if it’s dark in the morning I want sunlight for longer once I’m done working…
DST is sprung forward. It happens in the summer. Standard time is what the northern hemisphere is on now in the winter.
Fun fact. In the winter the sun is pretty close to its highest at Noon but I the summer that happens at 1:00 pm.
I suppose it makes some difference how far East to West you are in your timezone too, but this time of year I’m dark on my way to work and dark on my way home, if we were still in DST I’d have an hour of sunlight still after work. It’s only about 6 weeks that are that extreme for me but I’d still prefer DST. And I love the long summer nights when it’s light until almost 10 lol
Not just East to West but North to South too
I knew that in the sense of sunrise and sunset times, but thought maybe in terms of the sun being overhead at noon for example would travel north to South?
Same. This was part of Rubio’s “Sunshine Protection” think a couple years back, but does NOT seem to be part of that Trump has discussed so far.
The EU’s proposed DST abolishment proposal would go to permanent DST time, too.
Unfortunate that it has been in the back burner for so long. It would genuinely be a good boon for the EU tech industry to abolish DST lol.
Good
If he doesn’t, I’ll shoot him myself. Canada will probably come up with some other shitty excuse once they can’t say they do it for US trade any more though.
I don’t really like having clock shifts, but I will say that it’s less obnoxious in 2024 when most of my clocks update automatically.
In, say, 1990, it was an ongoing headache to have to manually fiddle all the timekeeping devices twice a year. Invariably, there’d be a timepiece or two that I’d forget about and not update until months later. Now I typically don’t even notice, just have one slightly-groggy day a year and one day a year when I wake up early.
I have that internal clock punishment thing going on. Since the last change I’ve been on time twice, and I probably won’t be on track until it changes back and ruins me again. I used to forcefully hack it by having energy drinks for a week or so but these days one or two of those and blood comes out. At least at my current job nobody will hassle me about my hours if I still get the work done, but I miss being able to maintain a schedule that makes sense.
Then there’s my animals. They will never understand and give me the look of “come on, this wasnt funny the last 5 years so why are you doing this again?”
I feel this (maybe not the blood part). My last job people really didn’t care, but now I’m on a stricter schedule and it’s rough. I can’t stand walking out of work to see the last rays of sun, assuming i get to see them at all.
Lol trump doing something i actually support
He was quoted out of context. He wants to separately eliminate daylight, savings, and time.
Works on contingency? No, money down!
Finally something even the left can get behind.
With all this insane shit going on, it might actually end up having one benefit
This has been in talks for years already. This is not a Trump thing The Senate passed the act that would have removed it unanimously in 2022
Didn’t that little rascal George Bush 2 try this and fail? Expecting the same results.
Biden did aswell
Good
