Probably fake, but a therapist should never say anything like that. I’m in my 30’s and a virigin, and no doctor, therapist, etc., has ever asked me anything close to that. And if they did, I’d be searching for a new therapist. Wouldn’t even finish the session.
The older ones tend to still think that way.
One of my previous psychiatrists got kicked out being the head of his department because he was using his position to lobby heavily to keep Asexuality in the the DSM.
Mine was 30 maximum, I was 20. It’s not about age, it’s about always getting what you wanted when you wanted it; then you don’t understand how it might not work like that for others.
Even if it’s not fake, in every other instance, if you have a bad dentist who says shit that makes you uncomfortable, you get a new dentist, happens every day, bad dentists get bad reviews and open shitty practices in bad neighborhoods and people expect the care to be substandard. Rarely do you even hear stories about that kind of thing because people have normalized dental care.
The fact that this shit is controversial shows just how far we have to go before people start taking their fucking minds seriously. You know, only the most important part of your physical, living experience.
I may have once believed this would never happen but after a therapist once told me I was wrong for outting a pedophile I can’t imagine this being that far fetched.
Uncle in therapy for second nervous breakdown. Therapist tells aunt that hell be a dead weight aroind her neck. Tells him to go fishing - he hates fishing. This was a recommended therapist from a good GP.
Another family member with past addiction and suicide attempts went to a different GP seeking therapy. Was told by the GP humans have been to the moon and can do anything so stop being so depressed. Wtf does that even mean.
Shitty people are in every profession.
“Nelson Mandela stopped racism in South Africa decades ago, so cheer up!”
Some doctors go to school for 20 years only to say the dumbest shit
Q: What do you call a doctor that cheated and manipulated their way through medical school and their residency?
A: Doctor.
Some doctors chose the profession to get laid and make money. Not the greatest motivators for being a good human in some cases.
That’s about the story of how am I about to try a fourth one in so many years. Gosh is it hard to find a good one ; taking the step to recognise you should see someone isn’t the hard part. Picking up your phone and call one isn’t the hard part. Fiding one that works for you is the damnedest hardest part of it, period.
Don’t drop it. Keep trying.
So true. Unfortunately both men rarely talk about feelings and were more or less forced by circumstance to seek help for mental health.
They already hated the idea and now hate it more. When they have some sort of future relapse they’ll be be even more closed off to seeking help.
Sucks.
Best therapist I ever had, had barely an office, that he split with his wife who did a separate type of counseling. He didnt advertise that I could tell, no preamble, no official stuff, no formal psychological analysis. Felt like I was just talking to a supportive buddy. Sometimes he would just tell me stories about when he was younger and had substance abuse issues and I would barely talk.
Wish I could say there was a trick to finding a good therapist. I picked the closest one to my house, which was a very tiny run down multi office building hidden behind a round-about and giant trees.
Yup, good therapists exist, but like most professions, finding one that works for you can be difficult.
Having a bad therapy experience doesn’t mean you aren’t fixable, it means the therapist sucks.
Phake n Gaie
I had a therapist that eventually deemed me too dangerous to myself to be in their care, so she upgraded me to super-therapy where I have to go like 9 hours a week and work with a group and like 5 therapists but I still don’t get much value out of it :c so yeah, therapy definitely isn’t for everyone
sounds like you got bumped up to a higher level of care. are you in IOP? that’s quite standard, especially for someone struggling severely but doesn’t want to go to inpatient
some therapists freak out a bit over suicide risk a bit much, but there’s a good chance that their recommendation was justified and the right call. I recommend talking about your frustration with your original therapist if possible, or just your favorite of the 5 if not.
I hope you’re getting a lot of good skills
sounds like providing good therapy isn’t for every therapist
that’s probably more accurate, I probably just need to find a better therapist
You now have 5 therapists to choose from though
You need to find your fit just like in love or friendship because it’s a highly personal relationship that you’re trying to develop with that person.
Ironic, considering most of us who need therapy struggle with relationships
Yeah it’s one of the most challenging parts. The process of getting therapy is not set up to be easy for the kind of people who need it. Availability is the most limiting factor these days, so if you don’t get a good match, you could be stuck waiting months for another try. I got pretty lucky on my second try a few years ago, but my wife just gave up trying to find someone. It’s hard to blame her.
level of care determinations are an important part of therapy. let’s not just bandwagon here.
Jesus Christ, that tops the worst thing I’ve ever heard a therapist say.
I heard a tale about a therapist in Iowa who after talking about issues with anxiety recommended eating brains shaped foods like, broccoli and walnuts.
Fucking ridiculous. Obviously you need to eat food shaped like your skull in order to enhance the beneficial humours.
You still don’t know a therapist has ever said this though.
Don’t know if there’s a distinction in English but when I read “therapist” I know that over here it can be anyone. Psychologist and psychiatrists have a professional order, therapists don’t… You could decide to become a therapist tomorrow morning if you wanted…
I am wondering the sane* tbh
Same* (I keep the typo for posterity)
“the sane”
Hehehe
What’s the weather like in 1825?
Sadly it was only 4 years ago. But Iowa does feel like that sometimes.
I mean they have gravel county highways. When I found myself on one unexpectedly last year I said out loud “Why is this county highway unpaved? Why is Iowa a third world country?!”
I went to five therapy sessions and it was like a speed run of college theory on CBT. Dude never stopped talking and we never talked about me or my problems.
I find it funny how many therapy stories on this platform are about cock and ball torture (CBT). Is that an American thing because of health insurance? /s
Don’t knock it if it works.
Jokes on you I’m into that shit
Even knowing a shitty human therapist personally didn’t shake me. It was dating apps. The amount of women I see that I’d run from at full speed, then notice they’re therapists… Jfc (I 100% believe everyone should be in therapy. There are shitty physical health doctors too.)
It’s sad that it’s true. Therapists are in high demand, and part of the reason we need more therapists is that about 1/5 of current therapists are basket cases in denial who use the idea of therapy to fulfill their own desires to control and manipulate others.
Why should everybody be in therapy? That’s like saying everybody should see a physiotherapist.
You’re reminding me of a certain quote… “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” -J.Krishnamurti
As fucked up as this world is, if you’re well adjusted to it, you’re broken and probably should see someone, and if you’re not, you need therapy to make it through the evolving dystopian hellscape. …so yeah, I think that’s what they’re saying.
I mean… yes? Some days I feel that way, and reading your words makes sense to me. In this case I simply meant we should care for our mental health like physical and normalize it. But seeing dude compare therapy to needing a specialist for an acute problem, then reading your response… Yeah, you’re def right in this case. Broken is normative.
It’s more like saying everyone should get a physical on a regular basis. We all need a check up now and then.
Ty
I mean, with how common back problems are in people of all ages, maybe we should all be seeing physiotherapists
I know I should be. I would genuinely benefit more from a good massage therapist than a psychotherapist at this point in life.
Well, yes, what did you expect?
Anon is attractive and has a shit therapist?
Big assumption that anon is attractive in this story.
Anon is never attractive.
Men: never go to a female therapist, they will NEVER be able to understand you from a man’s perspective. All they see is abundance, with men chasing them and paying attention to them, and will never understand how few choices those men in the bottom-80% are left with.
Uhh Ohh
What do people find in therapists that friends/talking to yourself on a walk/GPT can’t provide? I’ve seriously never found any value
I’m not sure either. Everyone is always saying to try therapy but when I finally caved it just… didn’t do anything for me. I went through seven different therapists over the course of about five years and all of them felt like a complete waste of time and money.
Some were easier to talk to than others but ultimately it didn’t really matter. Nothing changed at all. My conclusion is that therapists are only for people with superficial problems not actual issues that require tangible solutions.
My conclusion is that therapists are only for people with superficial problems not actual issues that require tangible solutions.
My experience as well although I really want to try trauma therapy…
A good therapist knows how to break down your defense mechanisms, teaching you to introspect and challenge yourself, as well as providing you specific tools to help cope and think differently.
- Family/Friends tend to know too much to be an unbiased sound board. And what if the issue is family/friends? Are you sure they won’t chat about it? Or treat you differently? What if they get defensive and you don’t get a chance to talk about your issue?
- If talking to yourself works, that’s great (genuinely), but the therapist is there to mention, notice, and discuss things you may not have realized. Like, you may think so-and-so hates you, so you’re trying to figure out how to get them to like you because you think it’s very important, the therapist may have you question if it’s worth the effort in the first place.
- ChatGPT is like taking therapy from TikTok. It’s just spitting back whatever it collects on the internet. It’s not really looking into you specifically. You can also “guide” Ai. And you’re the one reporting your symptoms, which could also mess with the results. I’ve had to take a test in therapy and there were a few questions I was like, “nope, I don’t have issues with that,” and she stopped the test and brought up situations I had told her and behavior I didn’t recognize as an issue and I changed my answer. ChatGPT is likely not going to do that.
Placebo
I’d rather eat concrete than use ChatGPT as a therapist.
Local models won’t train on your demons.
But then where will they have got any data to be useful from? I just struggle to see the value in isolating ourselves and allowing machines to handle humanity for us
You assume everyone has human connections and support as an option.
Yeah, that’s fair actually, I did assume that.
Using AI for therapy sounds incredibly fucking dangerous
Some people exhaust all their friends with their never ending complaining so the therapist saves their relationships by listening to them complain instead
A person who has a lot of knowledge in psychology.
AI just makes stuff up and apologies and says the reverse if you tell it it’s wrong.
Friends don’t have the knowledge.edit: “therapy”, i assume a psychiatrist.
What is this even supposed to say?
If you refer to women as “females” that DTF number drops precipitously.
Females 👎
Femme males 👍
Not to mention that going from ‘so pathetic nobody would ever want to fuck you’ to ‘so pathetic the only way you can get laid is by paying for it’ isn’t much of an upgrade
Bro, just call them women. Unless you’re trying to fuck girls. Then we have a different issue.
she’s trying to tell him he’s a good looking nice man 😉♂️
Yeah, you blew it again, anon. She was trying to give you a hint.
Plot twist: The therapist is also still a virgin… partially because she is only capable of giving third-rate hints like this one.
“Do you think I’m attractive?” Either way, need a new therapist, but there are all sorts of possibilities beyond them maybe being rude and demeaning to OP.
No, that therapist is. There are shitty people in every profession.
I feel like I need to say that if this was your experience you had a really shit therapist and deserve better. I’ve felt like this with a therapist before and it’s terrible. It’s ok to drop a therapist over this and try a different one.
betterhelp ahh therapist
You can actually say “ass” here, btw.
Fuckin’ mainstream social media-ass comment.
“ahh” has a better ring to it than “ass”
Personally I prefer “arse” with an uppity RP (Received Pronunciation) accent.
I’m not going to downvote you for this, because you’re allowed to think that, but I want you to know that I want to because you’re wrong. Lol
Watch your fucking language!
Please mom, not the soap!
Yeah but saying ahh is funny
Ass is just crass (also, this has the same energy as redditors who complain about emojis)
Ahh means ass? Drag is out of touch.
Yeah, it’s an AAVE based, censorship-born, slang term.
No u 😘
I mean, if the specific word you want to use seems to be an inappropriate tone, maybe find a different way to say what you’re trying to say instead of injecting a filter-bypass replacement for the same word you didn’t feel was an appropriate tone?
Betterhelp-coded therapist
Sounds like Betterhelp’s caliber of therapists
Lemme guess, this “therapist” was via Betterhelp
For a couple of examples
Edit: I see you didn’t post the original comment. Oops!
No they’re on .world so bad words like “ass” deal psychic damage to them.
I’m on .world.
Ass.
Fuck.
Shit.Stop, you’ll get fucking hurt!
I read it as “better help uhh therapist” because of the stupid ass self censorship. I’m not blaming the user for doing it, just annoyed for natural real world language getting hamstrung to satisfy advertisers. How long until “tisk tisk tisk! You can’t say ‘ahh’, that’s a naughty word!”?
That’s really, genuinely never made sense to me. If I’m going to say “freaking cold” it has the exact same meaning as “fucking cold”. So what’s the difference? Yet one is acceptable and one is, *clutches pearls*, a bad word. :O
My bet is this is fake. A large part of incel groups is making sure no one seeks help, so they stay longer. If you demonize therapists then that’s one more path to then existing removed.
I know better than to assume that anything posted to 4chan actually happened, but I also know from personal experience that moments just like this one DO happen to people. So even if this particular story is a fiction or was intended to serve some other purpose, it’s portraying a familiar moment for many people and I wanted to acknowledge that and encourage people to seek better help.
But don’t seek it through Better Help.
😁 true that
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It’s honestly hard to imagine how someone who’s this shit can even attain the title of “therapist”.
Welcome to America, where we have degree mills you can buy doctorates from and an understaffed health industry that will take whoever they can get. Never trust that a medical professional will act with your best interest in mind until you’ve established a relationship with them and know they’re actually competent.
Seem like just opening up to a friend and them questioning things. Doesn’t sound like a proper therapist.
So many people have this experience and never come back. Took me 4 to find the right one. (Meaning good at their job and had a good raport with me)
I feel like I would be a better therapist than this and I have no training or desire to get in that field! But I sure as shit wouldn’t go out of my way to shame someone with low self-esteem who’s literally trying to improve themself. If that conversation was verbatim, I’m not exaggerating when I said the therapist should be suspended.
