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Is this real? The post title seems to imply it’s something that might happen in the future?
look into Web Environment Integrity. This particular screenshot is probably fake, but it’s coming very soon.
No, the screenshot is real, they’ve been testing it in selected regions for a little bit
This has nothing to do with WEI. Google can do more than one shitty thing at once you know.
This has nothing to do with WEI
This has everything to do with WEI … what are you taking about?
WEI is a proposed modification to Chrome/Chromium that doesn’t even exist yet, and that would have the side effect of blocking adblockers on every site that implements WEI.
This here is an already existing change to the YouTube service that blocks adblockers on YouTube, across all browsers, Firefox included. It does not use or need WEI to do this.
Invidious / piped.video is the way (as long as it continues to work)!
Which adblocker are you using? I am using Ublock Origins, Sponsorblock, RYD and Enhancer for YouTube. I will check later if I get the same message or not.
The enshittification continues until profits increase!
(Btw I still haven’t seen those yet. In USA and I’m using uBlock Origin on Firefox)
Got it in the Netherlands a few days ago. With ublock origin on Firefox. So I switched to freetube with the subscriptions I actually watch.
I’ve been using free tube but lately it’s been running pretty poorly. Which insidious instance do you use?
I started having problems with freetube a few months back, as well. I switched to one of several piped instances (whichever one is working at any given time) in my browser.
I didn’t change any settings so its randomizing the instance. For now that seems to work fine.
Haven’t seen it here yet, same country, Vivaldi and uBlock.
I am also in the Netherlands using uBlock Origin and Firefox and am not getting it. So my best guess is they’re doing A/B testing and people are being randomly selected to see how they’ll respond to something like this.
Same , but not in the USA , I havent seen them yet
Browser and plugins don’t matter, this is being rolled out in waves. People are getting this on all browsers, with or without ad blockers
So this is how the internet dies? With ads, paywalls, and DRMs?
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It doesn’t have to be. This could be how YouTube dies.
Websites are nothing without users. We have the power to stop using websites that pull this shit and promote new websites that don’t.
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Reddit = Text based platform. Text: 1 Character = 1 Byte
Youtube = Video based platform. Videos: [Error, Not Enough Storage]
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Edit: Also, bandwidth.
Storage and bandwidth are practically free though. Only last mile bandwidth is expensive, and that is paid for by the end user.
Practically and actually are two different things.
Just because serving the video costs a fraction of a cent doesn’t mean you can round that down to zero, especially when you are serving billions of video views a day.
I did say practically free.
IRL Example: I host several videos across my various sites. I pay $99/mo for a CDN. Said CDN caches my videos and does not charge for bandwidth usage. Therefore you can technically argue that I pay $99/mo for X visitors. In actuality , the CDN caches all my content. It also provides DDOS protection, a firewall, and other advanced features. That is what I pay $99/mo for.
My cost to distribute the video is $99 + my hosting bill ($50-$200/mo depending on backend jobs) / number of views. This would be true if the video has 1 view or a billion (most of the ones I host have had “millions” of views)
The video can be 360p or 8k. CDN does not care. Mine are 4k.
Cynically, it won’t kill youtube, either. There are no alternatives. They have a lot of leverage to shittify it.
The paradox of the internet is that people want everything:
- in one place
- free of charge
- anonymous
but don’t want everything:
- owned by one company
- supported by ads
- full of toxic assholes
And a lot of users who just doesn’t care enough to do anything drastic about it. We already saw it with reddit, and twitter to a point. The userbase on the internet is so huge now that the people actually being aware and caring about privacy and non-commercialisation are a tiny minority. Companies can easily still make a profit on the vast majority of people who will uncritically consume.
Which makes me wonder why they care enough to put development time into these anti ad block measures.
That looks illegal
I’m almost afraid to ask but… how?
Nevermind, it was a legal gray area in the EU for some time, but now it’s legal
Under which law exactly? I don’t know any laws regarding adblock blockers.
Cookie walls are an illegal way to block access, but Google doesn’t have those. It even has a “reject all” button instead of the shitty list you need to go through to reject trackers on most sites.
I thought it was illegal under our EU privacy laws, but apparently it wasn’t really.
Sure.
Is “allowlist” the new word for whitelist?
Not really new, it’s been around for about a decade. Otherwise: yes.
Some people mistakenly think that the “black” in “blacklist” is a reference to skin color, so they demand it to be changed.
“Excuse me, it’s ‘list of color’.”
I’m honestly glad we’re getting rid of white/black list. I personally couldn’t give a shit the racial element (which wasn’t what they ever meant anyway), but I never have to stop and think about it for a half second to figure out which I need. Allow/deny list are just outright better names.
Blacklist and whitelist are intuitive to me. It’s the black/red/white -pill stuff I never even try to remember
I’ve dealt with them a lot but they never really stuck for some reason. Allow/block is much clearer IMO
Oh that’s sad.
What country are you in? I wonder if they’re rolling it out to smaller markets to see how much backlash they get.
Time to get a federated video hosting service scaled up ASAP. But who could afford the bandwidth and storage? We need a stable torrent-based streaming solution I suppose.
It really isn’t. I can get a gigabit pipe and all the storage i can cram into a 4U for a few hundred a month. That is enough to serve several dozen users. Add on a CDN and now you can serve thousands or more. I can probably find 10 or 100 gigabit offerings for not much more.
The bigger issue is copyright. A site that gains traction in the video space by ripping youtube videos would get sued into oblivion.
I’ll fucking use Vimeo if I have to.
chuckles in Firefox
Firefox is not immune to this. I get this popup in FF as well, I also use pi-hole DNS and ublock origin.
Oop. Chortles in revanced
i’d rather not use youtube than watch ads.
Thankfully that isn’t a choice you have to make, and thanks to open source, you will ever need to make.
The only trick Google has up their sleeve is their web integrity work. Even then, there will be workarounds.
Seems like it’s controlled test in different countries and segments. I (Europe) get this popup in Firefox, I also use pi-hole DNS and ublock origin.
Also Europe here, using ublock and firefox, and I don’t get that popup.
Dies your PiHole block Youtube ads?
It doesn’t because it can’t the ads and videos are on the same domain now
Thanks, I thought so.
It does not. It can only block domains. Youtube ads use same domain as actual videos.
Thanks, I thought so.
Using ublock to block these notifications is a great feeling
Enjoy it then because ublock does nothing against this at the moment. If you don’t have it it’s because you’re not in the first waves.
Why does this sound like a threat
Is NewPipe app users safe
I’ve been using it for awhile and love it! Highly recommended!
If Google doesn’t find a way to end it, they continue to break third party frontends in waves but the community will certainly fight them as long as possible so I doubt that it’s going to happen soon, Nitter is back online too and Libreddit is on it’s way to be so it’s not that easy!
I have been adblocking on YouTube for as long as I remember. Personally I think it’s unusable without an adblocker. What’s the alternative? Because I am not suddenly going to pay for a platform that keeps getting worse all the time.
There is peertube. I’m not familiar with its limitations. Technically it is possible for someone to try and track your activity because it’s P2P.
The content is currently lacking. I’m kind of wondering what limitations are in place for each user to upload video. Can someone make a bot to start reuploading content from their favorite streamers?
When ever I see someone using YouTube without an adblocker it looks like some cheap chinese knock-off or something. As someone who sees less ads than 99% of people I’ve genuinely became a bit oversensitive to them. Podcasts are the only thing I keep paying attention to despite them having ads which even then I always skip over. Other than that every online platform I use is ad-free and I don’t watch TV or listen to radio either.
I like to listen to podcasts in the gym and I will interrupt my set to skip sponsors and ads. The enshittification on Spotify is particularly bad as they now play ads in addition to sponsorings for premium listeners.
Yeah I don’t personally use spotify for podcasts even though I have premium aswell. Except for the occasional JRE episode I listen everything else on Podcast Republic.
Thanks for the tip, I will try that one out!
bilibili, an actual chinese knockoff has less ads
Same for me, I wish there was something like sponsorblock for podcasts.
And unfortunately IDK of any alternatives to YouTube. A big part of the problem is that some of my favorite creators only upload to YouTube. I don’t want to switch to an alternative and lose a large percentage of the content that I like to watch, that would be pretty shitty.
