Yeah but the Chinese one is bad because the American one said so.
I mean, it is actually bad.
Why?
Because China is bad. They are using my TikToks to genocide the Uighurs and invade the Taiwanese.
It’s not it’s just about control.
Same reason why the American one is bad
And the American one is bad because the Chinese one said so.
You forgot mossad
not my phone 😋
Nokia 8210?
CalyxOS and utilization of FOSS-only software in addition to leaving airplane mode on on my phone unless I’m expecting a call
I do have a Nokia though. I got it on clearance for like $5 lol
Meanwhile all the TikTok users seem to be moving to a copycat called Red Note
That just looks objectively worse imo
The fact that it’s hit #1 on the US Apple app store is wild to me.
Five eyes agents must be pulling their hair out.
Five eyes agents must be pulling their hair out.
Haha get fucked. Love to see it
Yeah that’s kind of why people are doing it.
We should build a Great Firewall and make China pay for it. – Mitt Romney, probably
The New Republic, Mitt Romney Reveals Twisted Reason Why Congress Moved to Ban TikTok
“Some wonder why there was such overwhelming support for us to shut down potentially TikTok or other entities of that nature. If you look at the postings on TikTok and the number of mentions of Palestinians relative to other social media sites, it’s overwhelmingly so among TikTok broadcasts. So I’d note that’s of real interest, and the President will get the chance to make action in that regard,” Romney said.
This exactly this. It was never about the Chinese spying on American citizens
Yes, tiktok was absolutely the worst, but it speaks very loudly that the US doesn’t hold other companies to the same standard
They hold every social media company to the same equal standard. Facebook, twitter, google, bluesky, and tiktok are all equally forbidden from operating while chinese.
This is in no way targeted, like not even a little bit… honest
China, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Russia, and Venezuela
Cuban social media is completely out of control. We should invade immediately
It is illegal to send US Citizens data there.
Actually, when they banned TikTok they also made it illegal for any company to send American data to any adversarial country including China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela.
In fact, TikTok could just sell to an American Owner at this very moment and continue operating. They didn’t sell, though. Because they don’t operate for profit. They operate for gain as a hostile foreign military asset.
They didn’t sell, though. Because they don’t operate for profit. They operate for gain as a hostile foreign military asset.
I’ll take “the conclusion doesn’t follow from the premises at all” for 500 Alex
…so it’s fine if an American company does it?
Sorry, typo it was supposed to say “any company”
Thats the entire point, FaceBook and Google are held to the same exact standard.
China already blocks those services, btw.
Just like American social media companies
It’s January 20th, introducing Trump Tok!
You made my laugh for the first time today. But you might not be far off the mark. It seems pertinent to repeat the old Chinese curse - “May you live in interesting times”. Shit’s become far too interesting for my taste.
It will be all right little buddy.
Wow. What prompted such condescension from my reply?
You spelled condolences improperly lol.
Don’t be a fucking dick. Are you a child in age or just emotionally?
Uh are you yelling into the mirror? I just sent every in the universe is gonna be alright. You agree?
Oh yeah this planet ain’t even a pixel in the universe. Universe gonna be fine. Hell even earth will be fine once we’ve caused the extinction of all life, including us.
Wow, any kind of proof behind that? TikTok was one of the few places I could actually watch live journalism from Gaza documenting the genocide, which sure seemed to provoke a propaganda campaign against it and pretty blatantly unconstitutional ban.
Exactly. Yeah, there’s a whole lot of things wrong with TikTok, but banning it is censorship veiled as ‘protecting the children’ and shit.
TikTok was one of the few places I could actually watch live journalism from Gaza documenting the genocide
Undermining your trust in the US media and political leadership. Ergo, Evil Chinese Propaganda.
I’ll see if I can find the write up, but the app was reverse engineered and it did collect an alarming amount of personal data that an app wouldn’t normally be allowed to. Also their algorithm has been criticized for ways it serves political content
https://www.boredpanda.com/tik-tok-reverse-engineered-data-information-collecting/
This is what came up first and had comment from the person who reverse engineered it.
Random anonymous reddit user who didn’t compile his findings into a report pointing to the places in the app binary where these things happen. OK.
I wouldn’t generally require people to “compile their findings into a report”, but in this case the messages are weirdly devoid of any checkable information and then the reddit user in question mysteriously lost a laptop full of findings, so, yeah, these claims are not compelling. I don’t think the reverse engineer in question was lying, per se, but I do think they were very wrong at first by random chance, the story gained traction, and then they were too embarrassed to admit they fucked up.
If he’s a professional security analyst, his findings would be compiled into a report. Demonstration of where code is in the binary, even network sniffing results - something. An article saying “this guy said so and he knows what he’s talking about” is literally crazy.
Well, with this logic, yeah, fuck TikTok (I mean it, what an awful site)… And twitter, and Facebook, and Instagram, and Tumblr (it’s still alive?) and all the social networks that don’t belong to the user homeland!
They’re all spyware and propaganda machines.
EXACTLY!
Fuck em all.
We should really ban Xitter as well as the operator is most likely a Russian bot
It was infested by Russian bots even before it was bought by a Russian bot
Meh USA president about to be Russian bot too
Elon got a ton of money from the Saudis to buy Xitter. Wouldn’t surprise me to learn they were pushing the authoritarian centric content.
You know Americans can be dogshit without being foreign right?
Nope. If it’s bad, it’s because of outside agitation and enemy propaganda.
America is exceptional, it can’t do anything wrong except stop being American
Let this be a lesson to you all: If you report a post for a reason as stupid as this, I might just let everyone know so they can laugh about it.
P.S. This is Lemmy Shitpost. You can misinform people all you like. Watch: Some camels are actually a type of iguana. But only the Bactrian camels. The rest are types of cacti. And if you drink their saliva, it will cure your gout.
lmfao holy shit, I am truly honored that my content was reported, they took it so much more seriously than I did and I’m the guy who made the post
This is exactly the energy I hope for in a shitposting mod. TYFYS
Do I need to drink the saliva fresh from the camel’s mouth, or can I have it bottled and shipped to me?
Yes.
Just want to pitch in and clarify the misinformation topic, since this is something explicitly mentioned in the Lemmy.World TOS, section 8.
Specifically, the type of misinformation that is prohibited is that which is harmful to others. Here’s a direct quote that pretty much sums up the matter:
We DO reserve the right to remove any information posted which COULD cause imminent PHYSICAL harm to any living being
We also reserve the right to remove any sufficiently scientifically proven MALICIOUS information posted which a user may follow, which would result in either IMMINENT PHYSICAL harm to an INDIVIDUALS PROPERTY, the PROPERTY of OTHERS or OTHER LIVING BEINGS.
So that being said, you’re all free to talk all the shit you want. I’m only going to care if the shit you talk is actually harmful.
OPs shit is in no way demonstrably harmful to anyone in any relevant manner. So they get to keep talking it.
Edit: I’ll concede, you may be put in harms way if you try to drink camel saliva. I presume they kick pretty hard. But frankly, you deserve it for trying.
Rooting against TikTok for breaching privacy is fine and all but if we wanna talk about social media that needs to be banned then let’s talk about Meta and Google. It’s painfully obvious that the only reason TikTok came under fire is that it was a threat to American social media companies and they couldn’t compete so instead they regulate.
I really don’t care about what TT does with my data, and I’ve been called a “privacy schizo” by people at work. I’ll mail every bit of my data to Xi Jinping personally before I ever install any apps made by Meta.
In other words, broad regulation on the industry instead of cherry picking TikTok for China reasons.
What’s a shizo?
Schizo*
Short for schizophrenic
It is genuinely one of the most enjoyable things I could imagine to watch the American empire fall in real time, as its imperial core citizens flounder and flop around in impotent rage.
That’s the thing about reality. It has a leftist bias and it doesn’t give a shit about liberals raging at their own inability to comprehend the contradictions of their existence.
I HATE Chinese spyware used to push Chinese propaganda. I only like AMERICAN spyware used to push AMERICAN propaganda!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅
It’s possible to dislike both. We are on Lemmy after all.
Yes. I only want FOSS and federated spyware social media.
The problem is they aren’t both getting banned/regulated, making the reasoning behind the tiktok ban extremely suspect
Edit: a word
Well, no need to put down Lemmy users about it.
MURICA!!!
Not meaning this in defense of Tiktok, but…
If Tiktok doesn’t push this kind of social divisiveness in their own country, it’s because they regulated it in their home country. They’re simply exploiting the fact that the US has basically zero regulations in place, so they’re allowed to promote socially destructive content. Why wouldn’t they? It’s not like what they’re doing is materially different than what Xitter, Meta/Facebook, Reddit, and so on do. Honestly, it’s already happening at Bluesky because we have no rules and rely almost exclusively on site moderators enforcing social decorum rules. If Tiktok in China is “better” it’s because the government there forces it to be, like maybe we ought to consider doing maybe.
The US government just doesn’t like it when it’s not their guys propagandizing and dividing the populace. They want to enjoy the fruits of that, not a foreign actor. The mask is truly off, they really do think their own poverty-striken citizens are the enemy. The government speaks out of both sides of its mouth about backdoors in encryption, with one part of the FBI saying you need to use encrypted services to safely communicate, and another part saying we need backdoors in encryption even though Salt Typhoon literally saw hackers exploit US telecom backdoors that which the hackers still persist in exploiting.
