It is genuinely one of the most enjoyable things I could imagine to watch the American empire fall in real time, as its imperial core citizens flounder and flop around in impotent rage.
That’s the thing about reality. It has a leftist bias and it doesn’t give a shit about liberals raging at their own inability to comprehend the contradictions of their existence.
You forgot mossad
not my phone 😋
Nokia 8210?
CalyxOS and utilization of FOSS-only software in addition to leaving airplane mode on on my phone unless I’m expecting a call
I do have a Nokia though. I got it on clearance for like $5 lol
Yeah but the Chinese one is bad because the American one said so.
I mean, it is actually bad.
Why?
Because China is bad. They are using my TikToks to genocide the Uighurs and invade the Taiwanese.
It’s not it’s just about control.
Same reason why the American one is bad
And the American one is bad because the Chinese one said so.
Yes, tiktok was absolutely the worst, but it speaks very loudly that the US doesn’t hold other companies to the same standard
Actually, when they banned TikTok they also made it illegal for any company to send American data to any adversarial country including China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela.
In fact, TikTok could just sell to an American Owner at this very moment and continue operating. They didn’t sell, though. Because they don’t operate for profit. They operate for gain as a hostile foreign military asset.
They didn’t sell, though. Because they don’t operate for profit. They operate for gain as a hostile foreign military asset.
I’ll take “the conclusion doesn’t follow from the premises at all” for 500 Alex
…so it’s fine if an American company does it?
Sorry, typo it was supposed to say “any company”
Thats the entire point, FaceBook and Google are held to the same exact standard.
China already blocks those services, btw.
They hold every social media company to the same equal standard. Facebook, twitter, google, bluesky, and tiktok are all equally forbidden from operating while chinese.
This is in no way targeted, like not even a little bit… honest
China, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Russia, and Venezuela
Cuban social media is completely out of control. We should invade immediately
It is illegal to send US Citizens data there.
Meanwhile all the TikTok users seem to be moving to a copycat called Red Note
That just looks objectively worse imo
The fact that it’s hit #1 on the US Apple app store is wild to me.
Five eyes agents must be pulling their hair out.
Five eyes agents must be pulling their hair out.
Haha get fucked. Love to see it
Yeah that’s kind of why people are doing it.
“Hmmm well if you think tiktok should be banned for spying then do you think american social media platforms should be banned for doing the same thing?”
Yes. They should. That is not the argument you think it is.
I think that retort is just there to point out that other social media platforms definitely will not be banned at any point, calling to question the legitimacy of the claim that the ban is because of invasive spy practices. Hypocrisy is loud.
They will be if they send US Citizens’ data to China, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Russia, and/or Venezuela. Because that’s how the law which bans TikTok was written.
Meanwhile in India…
Wow, any kind of proof behind that? TikTok was one of the few places I could actually watch live journalism from Gaza documenting the genocide, which sure seemed to provoke a propaganda campaign against it and pretty blatantly unconstitutional ban.
TikTok was one of the few places I could actually watch live journalism from Gaza documenting the genocide
Undermining your trust in the US media and political leadership. Ergo, Evil Chinese Propaganda.
I’ll see if I can find the write up, but the app was reverse engineered and it did collect an alarming amount of personal data that an app wouldn’t normally be allowed to. Also their algorithm has been criticized for ways it serves political content
https://www.boredpanda.com/tik-tok-reverse-engineered-data-information-collecting/
This is what came up first and had comment from the person who reverse engineered it.
Random anonymous reddit user who didn’t compile his findings into a report pointing to the places in the app binary where these things happen. OK.
I wouldn’t generally require people to “compile their findings into a report”, but in this case the messages are weirdly devoid of any checkable information and then the reddit user in question mysteriously lost a laptop full of findings, so, yeah, these claims are not compelling. I don’t think the reverse engineer in question was lying, per se, but I do think they were very wrong at first by random chance, the story gained traction, and then they were too embarrassed to admit they fucked up.
If he’s a professional security analyst, his findings would be compiled into a report. Demonstration of where code is in the binary, even network sniffing results - something. An article saying “this guy said so and he knows what he’s talking about” is literally crazy.
Exactly. Yeah, there’s a whole lot of things wrong with TikTok, but banning it is censorship veiled as ‘protecting the children’ and shit.
I like how it’s being banned after the election when the damage is already done.
Edit: Calm down guys. You’ll get a TikTok replacement. There’s always a replacement. Your life will go on. You’ll have other social media networks to be misinformed by.
Love to watch the contortionism .world does to justify the yellow peril
They are blocking it world wide? I never heard any news of it being banned in my country.
it isn’t. but america = the world and everywhere else falls into the niche category of foreign.
Thanks for the clarification. But one other question, why is Lemmy so focused around the U.S., instead of thinking globally?
I HATE Chinese spyware used to push Chinese propaganda. I only like AMERICAN spyware used to push AMERICAN propaganda!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅
MURICA!!!
It’s possible to dislike both. We are on Lemmy after all.
Yes. I only want FOSS and federated spyware social media.
The problem is they aren’t both getting banned/regulated, making the reasoning behind the tiktok ban extremely suspect
Edit: a word
Well, no need to put down Lemmy users about it.
Well, with this logic, yeah, fuck TikTok (I mean it, what an awful site)… And twitter, and Facebook, and Instagram, and Tumblr (it’s still alive?) and all the social networks that don’t belong to the user homeland!
They’re all spyware and propaganda machines.
EXACTLY!
We should really ban Xitter as well as the operator is most likely a Russian bot
Elon got a ton of money from the Saudis to buy Xitter. Wouldn’t surprise me to learn they were pushing the authoritarian centric content.
It was infested by Russian bots even before it was bought by a Russian bot
Meh USA president about to be Russian bot too
You know Americans can be dogshit without being foreign right?
Nope. If it’s bad, it’s because of outside agitation and enemy propaganda.
America is exceptional, it can’t do anything wrong except stop being American
We should build a Great Firewall and make China pay for it. – Mitt Romney, probably
The New Republic, Mitt Romney Reveals Twisted Reason Why Congress Moved to Ban TikTok
“Some wonder why there was such overwhelming support for us to shut down potentially TikTok or other entities of that nature. If you look at the postings on TikTok and the number of mentions of Palestinians relative to other social media sites, it’s overwhelmingly so among TikTok broadcasts. So I’d note that’s of real interest, and the President will get the chance to make action in that regard,” Romney said.
This exactly this. It was never about the Chinese spying on American citizens
Just like American social media companies
