Summary

Donald Trump has announced plans to impose 25% tariffs on the European Union, claiming the bloc was “formed to screw the United States.”

While details are pending, he suggested the levies would target cars and other imports. The EU, a major U.S. trading partner, has vowed immediate retaliation, with potential tariffs impacting $29.3 billion in exports.

French President Emmanuel Macron had attempted to dissuade Trump, urging focus on China instead.

Critics, including economists and conservative media, warn the tariffs could harm the U.S. economy.

  • @[email protected]
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    12 months ago

    The EU has an official mechanism to combat economic pressure like this that includes suspension of all intellectual property from the country imposing the tarrifs.

  • @[email protected]
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    152 months ago

    Isn’t it the other way around. The USA was formed to screw over the European world powers.

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      2 months ago

      The US was a white colonialist project that once it became strong enough wrestled independence from the colonialist nations that started it, pretty much like has happenned all throught History.

      IMHO, the people it was formed to screw over were the natives of the land the colonialists stole - so he members of the native Indian tribes.

  • @[email protected]
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    682 months ago

    The EU was formed to screw the US… THE EU WAS FORMED TO SCREW THE US?! Bruh dude is possibly channeling Hitler and Stalin simultaneously. That’s the only thing that makes sense. Or he’s terminally dumb. One of the two.

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      Well, his definition of “screw over” is probably when the other side of a negotiation pools resources to be able to negotiate in a balanced way.

      In that mindset, workers make Unions to “screw over” big companies.

      Because that’s essentially what the EU is: a polling of resources of many small and a few mid-sized countries to on Internation Trade matters negotiate as a block and hence in a balanced way with large countries like the US and China.

      Given Trump’s background of using his money to take advantage of contractors for his companies by using lawsuits with no hope of winning meant only to drain out the resources of others and make them quite, it makes perfectly sense that he would see those others pooling resources to be able to face him as “screwing him over” and in that “logic” the EU being created “screw over” the US.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 months ago

        It’s the same “I’ll respect you if you respect me” dynamic in an imbalanced-power system.

        I’m screwing you over if I personally feel bad for what I’m doing to you (never happens, therefore I’m always fair). You’re screwing me over if you inconvenience me.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 months ago

      It did for Mexico and Canada.

      They agreed to nothing new, and the terrifs vanished.

      It must be like trying to negotiate with a toddler.

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    182 months ago

    Ok so to recap: stuff made in Mexico? Tariffs! Stuff made in Canada? Tariffs! Stuff made in the EU? Tariffs! Stuff made in China? Tariffs!

    Is he jealous of the European 20-25% VAT?

    Please EU, don’t retaliate on this. If the US put tariffs on everything from everywhere, then it’s just masochism and we should let them enjoy the suffering

    • Pennomi
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      242 months ago

      Nah, do retaliate. Because the only thing the morons over here understand is “uh oh, line go down”.

      • @[email protected]
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        102 months ago

        As an European I don’t want to pay extra taxes on American stuff just because their citizens voted someone with dementia as a president

        • @[email protected]
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          192 months ago

          But then you export less stuff, hurting your economy, while the US still exports just as much to you, so their economy does better. The counter tariffs are to make it less appealing for you to buy, and US exports go down.

          In the end, everyone loses, but it needs to hurt them back to make them realize that.

          • @[email protected]
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            32 months ago

            That’s a really bad understanding of how economies work. On all levels.

            That’s the kind of the way Trump thinks.

            • @[email protected]
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              72 months ago

              So do you think the EU, Canada, Mexico and China all dont understand how economies work either? As they all immediately said they would respond to tariffs with tariffs on American goods.

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                12 months ago

                First, “they all” didn’t so it. Some of them did.

                Second, you are the one claiming the motivation for that action. And you are wrong, their motivation isn’t to “keep their business competitive despite the US tariffs”… unless of course they also don’t know what they are doing. That’s because the US tariffs doesn’t change the competitiveness of products on their territory, and their tariffs don’t change the competitiveness of products on the US territory…

                What should be obvious, because the tariffs aren’t applied there.

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                  42 months ago

                  Please try to read usernames, I didnt say anything about motivations.

                  And all of them threatened retaliatory tariffs immediately after trump anounced his:

                  Obviously most of those havent been implemented yet as THe USA hasnt implemented it’s tariffs. But the more general point about imposing retaliatory tariffs is sound, they make the other countries exports less attractive. If the US does that to other countries they are going to want to do it back to the US.

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          Canada’s plan for the initial round of retaliatory tariffs targets things made in Trump voting states and where there is a similar product made in Canada, or that we can get easily elsewhere, or that we can comfortably do without.

          Things like recreational vehicles, and alcohol were at the top of the list, because they tick all the boxes.

    • @[email protected]
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      32 months ago

      Stuff made in China? Tariffs!

      Unless China considers it important. If so, they’ll just not send it.

  • Goldholz
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    402 months ago

    DO IT! COMON! DO IT! Make every european leader more alligned with the EU and push us more and more together and more indipendent again!

    DO IT! SCARDY CAT

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    Do it. See what happens to that beautiful country of yours. What do you even provide the world besides shitty tech like meta and microsoft?

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    I’m in the EU and I very much I hope he does, beause the response will be spectacular: apparently there is an Act from 2023 that the EU can respond to this by suspending intellectual property rights of US companies, plus from last time Trump was President the EU learned to target counter-Tariffs for maximum political effect (basically hitting Republican states hardest) and that will also work fine in targetting US companies politically affiliated with Trump (bye, bye, Tesla!).

    Also it will definitelly finish off any lingering delusions of European politicians that the US is an “ally”.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 months ago

      That would be great if another way to retaliate against US tariffs would be other countries officially hosting pirated US material for anyone to download. Make it extra easy for everyone to boycott American companies!

    • @[email protected]
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      32 months ago

      Yeah howerver for that you’d need Brussels to find its balls and actually start acting like it had a spine.

      And of course, find a consensus among all the contradictory interest of the different EU states (including a good chunk aligned on trump’s illiberal approach if not Russian controlled).

      Man I REALLY hope you’re right, but I don’t have my hopes up. On another hand if it’s not now, it’ll never happen.

    • Dharma Curious (he/him)
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      32 months ago

      EWS. Existing while socialist. Doesn’t matter if you believe they are or aren’t, they use the word, they’re a shaky ally at best, an outright enemy when any kind of hackles get raised

  • @[email protected]
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    372 months ago

    The EU was setup to help protect Europe and enable them to have better control over overly enthusiastic capitalist companies such as those found in the US.

    But what do we expect from a low intelligence puppet of Russia?