i left reddit for good today with their obvious attempt at controlling the narrative like the rest of big social media. long live the lemmy federation

  • @[email protected]
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    16 months ago

    Oh don’t worry - Lemmy will soon have people posting child porn, gore, or other things en-masse before reporting the site/domain. I’ve seen it on almost every Reddit alternative since Digg shut down.

    They’ll run hit pieces against this place for being extremist, they’ll do all sorts of nasty shit.

    So first they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you.

    • @[email protected]
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      06 months ago

      Reddit has CSAM on it. Reddit has a subreddit selling porn that is now known to feature CSAM. I along with a few others tried to kill it. We’re all here now.

      Lemmy has already had CSAM instances.

          • KillingTimeItself
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            16 months ago

            yeah that sounds about right, im guessing it’s not exactly public facing either, probably an off platform thing if i had to guess. It’d be wild to be posting that shit directly on the sub though.

      • @[email protected]
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        06 months ago

        I remember growing up we’d be graded down on our writing papers if we used an acronym without spelling out what it meant the first time.

    • @[email protected]
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      16 months ago

      I wonder how resistant to that Lemmy will be, with the whole federation thing. Harder to ban it when it’s not just one domain.

      • @[email protected]
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        Yeah, I mean I barely understand this federated stuff. To my understanding, each instance has their own rules. I can’t post nudes on my Lemmy.ca to my understanding. I think if there’s an instance that is running “afoul” then the instance I connect with can block the entire instance?

        • Atelopus-zeteki
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          Yep, that’s how we roll. Others can tell you the details. I’m just an end user. On my end I can block nazi’s, or anyone I don’t like. u/universalmonk was one, acted so surprised when I blocked and didn’t want to explain why. Funny thing, if you can block someone for being an asshat, suddenly they are less encouraged to do that, and have to find a more socially acceptable way to be. Cheers.

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            u/universalmonk was one, acted so surprised when I blocked and didn’t want to explain why.

            Links to that? Because I’ve never seen Universal Monk act surprised when someone blocked him/her.

            In fact, he/she often recommended blocking them if you didn’t agree with what they said.

            • KillingTimeItself
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              16 months ago

              daily reminder that you can just use they/them in place of he/her she/him pronouns because that’s literally a designed feature of the english language.

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                  All I did was ask for a link showing that UM was surprised or upset that you blocked her/him, because I’ve never seem them question that before. I always seem to remember them suggesting blocking them, not being upset by it.

                  I didn’t say you were incorrect; i was just asking for proof cuz I’ve never seen it. It’s not like I am super concerned about it or anything. But I don’t live on lemmy and have no investment between your feud–or whatever it is–with that person. not a big deal to me either way

  • Fair Fairy
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    Go on Amazon or ebay , select print a custom garden flag.
    Upload this picture.
    Plant nice garden flag in your yard.

    6-10$ max

    • ✺roguetrick✺
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      Boycott Amazon. Thiel sold his PayPal shares so he shouldn’t have a significant stake in eBay anymore so I don’t know if they’re worth boycotting.

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        Look. People been saying that for a decade per my memory. And nothing was done - this tells me your little boycott ain’t gonna work.

        No - do smarter.

        Get a gun.
        Fund WFD.
        Fund eff. Call your rep and tell them you are done

        • ✺roguetrick✺
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          If you think giving Bezos money to fly a flag is praxis and boycotting isn’t, I don’t really know what to tell you.

  • Sixty
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    06 months ago

    If I wanted this on my bathroom wall, what’s the best website to get it ordered?

    • Fair Fairy
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      Go on Amazon or ebay , select print a custom garden flag.
      Upload this picture.
      Plant nice garden flag in your yard.

      6-10$ max

      • @[email protected]
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        06 months ago

        Both will collect your data, Amazon will sell it to the highest bidder, and you’re ultimately supporting a big corporation. DIY

    • @[email protected]
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      06 months ago

      Vistaprint.ca is Netherlands-based and prints all kinds of marketing materials like flags, banners, stickers, flyers, business cards…

      While Etsy is a US based platform, there are still small business owners from Canada who can also provide digital printing services on any kind of merch you want.

      Amazon is dead to us, there is always an alternative.

      • Sixty
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        06 months ago

        Thanks, I’ll try their outdoor paperstock for water resistance.

  • KillingTimeItself
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    06 months ago

    i mean yeah, generally when a society idolizes a killer, it’s not for a particularly good reason (society wise)

    and before anybody tries to yap about it, no there would only be a potential long term benefit to this kind of thing, slight shift in politics, maybe on the extreme end a government uprising, which will take many a year to come to fruition, and cause many years of instability. Generally these kinds of things only bring short term problems, when acted upon, humans are just animals, the salem witch trials happened for a reason, if left unchecked, this would turn into a bloodbath very quickly. Lots and lots of people would die. most of them not billionaires.

    • @[email protected]
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      16 months ago

      The romanticisation of a murderer is quite frankly astounding. You can agree with his side of the discussion and not be ok with murder. I don’t think enough people get that.

      • @[email protected]
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        06 months ago

        The CEO was responsible for thousands of deaths, and the law doesn’t give a fuck. It was all legal.

        In this case, I’m genuinely ok with the murder.

        • @[email protected]
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          I’m not just okay with it, I endorse it as much as Brandenburg v Ohio allows me to. People should be out there bringing actual justice to legal mass murderers.

      • pancakes
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        06 months ago

        What are you even saying?

        All throughout history, murder was almost a requirement for creating a better life for people. If we hit a point in society where murder is not okay, that takes away the one final chip the working class has against the rich.

        Even just looking at the health insurance side of things, we’re talking about a horrible ethically misaligned industry that makes murder look like shoplifting. Ideally no murder has to happen, but it becomes a lot more grey from a utilitarian perspective and when considering the sheer scale that the world operates at.

        • KillingTimeItself
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          16 months ago

          Murder has been ok? When?

          Maybe for criminals, or witches if you like the salem witch trials, but last i checked everybody hates those.

      • @[email protected]
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        16 months ago

        It’s because nuance in an internet discussion is very hard. All people participating must target mutual understanding and not just trying to win an argument.

      • KillingTimeItself
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        16 months ago

        it’s definitely interesting, personally i dont really care what you do as long as it’s consistent, if you think what luigi did is based, then sure, but you better also say that murder is based. Otherwise you’re being hypocritical.

        People just want to pick and choose who dies, which again, if you like murder, by all means, please.

  • Fingolfinz
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    Yeah the banning for upvotes thing was pretty final straw for me. It’ll be a conservative shit hole like Twitter soon enough

    • @[email protected]
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      06 months ago

      People up voting Luigi posts got banned? Yeah I’m glad I’m not on there anymore. Lemmy seems like my kind of community. Honestly feels like how reddit used to feel like. Good honest people.

      • Fingolfinz
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        They’re receiving warnings and stuff it’s been pretty fucky the last week with them so I’m out. I’ve heard of some bans for some odd stuff but I suppose some of it is hearsay. Yeah I’m really digging Lemmy it feels much more like the earlier internet where algorithms didn’t dictate everything and you can just find stuff organically

      • @[email protected]
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        16 months ago

        upvoting is ridiculous, but from what ive heard another site, Upvoting, in general flags your account if its new on certain subs, i think they are just expanding it to sitewide.

    • @[email protected]
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      16 months ago

      isnt it already, only allowing some center right content to be on it to “seem balance” but allowing right wingers to astroturf all the subs.

  • @[email protected]
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    06 months ago

    aww Murderers deserve the same end but he’s going to rot in jail with his rage instead. Good for us all.

  • Lovable Sidekick
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    06 months ago

    Strangely reminds me of the Always Sunny episode where they convinced people that a water stain on their kitchen wall was the Virgin Mary, and Charlie started blessing people. On a serious note tho, portraying Luigi Mangione and Donald Trump as saviors seems equally fucked up to me.

    • @[email protected]
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      I doubt most people see Luigi as a savior, just a symbol of retribution in a world that lacks justice

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        16 months ago

        Yeah I think the two portrayals seem equally fucked up, not equally popular.

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            To me, methodically walking up behind somebody and shooting them in the back seems anything but saintly, no matter how it’s compared with the heinous evil deeds of corporate demons. Saintly would be if he convinced the CEO to change his ways and got others to do the same. What Luigi did was just violence people happen to be excusing because it satisfies their own anger, like when your big brother beats up your bully. Not an especially saintly vibe.

            • @[email protected]
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              06 months ago

              Regardless of how the act was done, it was undeniably an act of extreme sacrifice. He threw his life away to bring justice to an evil man who would never face justice any other way. Assuming he is the killer, Luigi did this even though he himself is from a well-off family and will never have trouble affording healthcare. Brian Thompson killed tens of thousands of innocent human beings. Because of Luigi, Brian Thompson will never kill again.

              To give your life in the service of total strangers? To sacrifice yourself to save the innocent and punish the guilty? To become a literal martyr? That is the making of a saint.

              • Lovable Sidekick
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                Maybe you’re an expert psychiatrist or something, but in my layman’s view it was a very typical psychotic outburst, which you’re making special because you like the outcome. To each their own.

                • @[email protected]
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                  16 months ago

                  How many historical saints and prophets must have suffered from one form of psychosis or another?

  • @[email protected]
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    26 months ago

    They have successfully jailed the alleged killer. They are trying to also imprison the idea he represents.

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    Well, Trump said that they will push to get the death penalty for drug dealers…

    Lock and load, folks.

    We’re hunting pharmaceutical CEOs.

  • @[email protected]
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    36 months ago

    Remember, they’re not threatened by Luigi. They’re threatened by the fact that so many people love Luigi and what he stands for.

    • @[email protected]
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      16 months ago

      This. He’s basically a martyr at this point.

      Luigi reminded the people that we have power. We don’t need to be subservient to the whims of corporate interests. We can choose to go a different way. He’s in jail but millions of people who are inspired by him are roaming free, any of which could become the next Luigi, and wack some CEO who is devoid of empathy or ethics (which is all of them). Anyone could be the perpetrator, anyone could be the target.

      It’s like a large chunk of the USA is now part of anonymous. Expect us.

      (And for anyone who binds anonymous with 4chan, you don’t understand anonymous)

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        He’s in jail but millions of people who are inspired by him are roaming free, any of which could become the next Luigi, and wack some CEO

        Let’s be real, all it takes is one person struck by tragedy who no longer has anything to live for choosing to go out this way rather than going quietly. Maybe their kid was killed in the nth school shooting of the year. Maybe they’re dying of cancer due to delayed treatment. Maybe they’re financially ruined by medical debt. Like you said Luigi reminded people of what is possible, and there’s plenty of tragedies that can be correctly attributed to the choices of the rich that happen every day

  • Queen HawlSera
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    16 months ago

    It’s the Luigi overpowered as can be.

    Naw, ever see A Bug’s Life where the Crickets only bully the ants because it’s to distract them from realizing a thousand ants are stronger than one cricket?