i left reddit for good today with their obvious attempt at controlling the narrative like the rest of big social media. long live the lemmy federation

  • @[email protected]
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    03 months ago

    As always, follow the money. Those in power want more and more money and in order to do so they need to control the population. If there is one remaining social aggregate that can foster sentiment against them, they will come down hard on it. Reddit became a corporation like Facebook and then now they want to add Reddit to the list of social aggregates they control.

    • @[email protected]
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      13 months ago

      It’s an addiction, like being addicted to heroin. We should have done an intervention long ago, but the addicts are running the show. And capitalism seems to favor and promote the addicts so we have a feedback loop that I fear cannot be stopped.

  • Sixty
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    03 months ago

    If I wanted this on my bathroom wall, what’s the best website to get it ordered?

    • @[email protected]
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      03 months ago

      Vistaprint.ca is Netherlands-based and prints all kinds of marketing materials like flags, banners, stickers, flyers, business cards…

      While Etsy is a US based platform, there are still small business owners from Canada who can also provide digital printing services on any kind of merch you want.

      Amazon is dead to us, there is always an alternative.

      • Sixty
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        03 months ago

        Thanks, I’ll try their outdoor paperstock for water resistance.

    • Fair Fairy
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      03 months ago

      Go on Amazon or ebay , select print a custom garden flag.
      Upload this picture.
      Plant nice garden flag in your yard.

      6-10$ max

      • @[email protected]
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        03 months ago

        Both will collect your data, Amazon will sell it to the highest bidder, and you’re ultimately supporting a big corporation. DIY

  • @[email protected]
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    73 months ago

    This was the straw that broke the camel’s back. I remember seeing something a while back on r/coolguides about alternatives for various sites, including Lemmy as an alternative to Reddit. Today, I saw the writing on the wall and decided it was time.

    The worst isn’t just the Luigi thing, it’s that in the future, they will most likely expand it to include any topic that the administration disapproves of.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      43 months ago

      my sentiment exactly. this is just the start of it. once they became a publicly traded company, it was no longer a social media for the people. may free speech live on ✊

      • @[email protected]
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        43 months ago

        Butt fuck pastries for elfs!!!

        See, that sentence may not make sense, but we have free speech here, so I can say it as much as I want!

        BUTT FUCK PASTRIES FOR ELFS!!!

      • @[email protected]
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        43 months ago

        welcome! it ain’t perfect here, but at least it’s decentralized and harder to manipulate in favor of the oligarchs.

        • AizawaC47
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          43 months ago

          I am new here, and I actually like everything about it. It’s very simplified. But the fact that it’s decentralized is the key reason to why I moved here.

    • mesa
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      33 months ago

      Welcome to Lemmy, hope you have a great time.

  • @[email protected]
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    33 months ago

    Remember, they’re not threatened by Luigi. They’re threatened by the fact that so many people love Luigi and what he stands for.

    • @[email protected]
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      13 months ago

      This. He’s basically a martyr at this point.

      Luigi reminded the people that we have power. We don’t need to be subservient to the whims of corporate interests. We can choose to go a different way. He’s in jail but millions of people who are inspired by him are roaming free, any of which could become the next Luigi, and wack some CEO who is devoid of empathy or ethics (which is all of them). Anyone could be the perpetrator, anyone could be the target.

      It’s like a large chunk of the USA is now part of anonymous. Expect us.

      (And for anyone who binds anonymous with 4chan, you don’t understand anonymous)

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        He’s in jail but millions of people who are inspired by him are roaming free, any of which could become the next Luigi, and wack some CEO

        Let’s be real, all it takes is one person struck by tragedy who no longer has anything to live for choosing to go out this way rather than going quietly. Maybe their kid was killed in the nth school shooting of the year. Maybe they’re dying of cancer due to delayed treatment. Maybe they’re financially ruined by medical debt. Like you said Luigi reminded people of what is possible, and there’s plenty of tragedies that can be correctly attributed to the choices of the rich that happen every day

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    03 months ago

    i mean yeah, generally when a society idolizes a killer, it’s not for a particularly good reason (society wise)

    and before anybody tries to yap about it, no there would only be a potential long term benefit to this kind of thing, slight shift in politics, maybe on the extreme end a government uprising, which will take many a year to come to fruition, and cause many years of instability. Generally these kinds of things only bring short term problems, when acted upon, humans are just animals, the salem witch trials happened for a reason, if left unchecked, this would turn into a bloodbath very quickly. Lots and lots of people would die. most of them not billionaires.

    • @[email protected]
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      03 months ago

      The romanticisation of a murderer is quite frankly astounding. You can agree with his side of the discussion and not be ok with murder. I don’t think enough people get that.

      • @[email protected]
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        13 months ago

        It’s because nuance in an internet discussion is very hard. All people participating must target mutual understanding and not just trying to win an argument.

      • KillingTimeItself
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        13 months ago

        it’s definitely interesting, personally i dont really care what you do as long as it’s consistent, if you think what luigi did is based, then sure, but you better also say that murder is based. Otherwise you’re being hypocritical.

        People just want to pick and choose who dies, which again, if you like murder, by all means, please.

      • pancakes
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        03 months ago

        What are you even saying?

        All throughout history, murder was almost a requirement for creating a better life for people. If we hit a point in society where murder is not okay, that takes away the one final chip the working class has against the rich.

        Even just looking at the health insurance side of things, we’re talking about a horrible ethically misaligned industry that makes murder look like shoplifting. Ideally no murder has to happen, but it becomes a lot more grey from a utilitarian perspective and when considering the sheer scale that the world operates at.

        • KillingTimeItself
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          13 months ago

          Murder has been ok? When?

          Maybe for criminals, or witches if you like the salem witch trials, but last i checked everybody hates those.

  • @[email protected]
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    It’s not so much the guy they’re afraid of, they’re afraid of what his actions could spur others into repeating. They’re afraid of what can be done to them if multiple people follow suit. And y’know what? Maybe that’s what we need now. Enough of us fearing them, and them fearing us. We don’t need them. They need us. And it’s well past the time to give them a reminder of that. Through force, if necessary. Preferably without bloodshed, but at this rate it doesn’t look good. They’ve shown time and again they don’t care about how many of us lose our lives to preventable circumstances, so it’s time to MAKE them care again.

  • @[email protected]
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    All the people praising Luigi say “this does nothing” when someone suggests an alternative to just shooting CEOs. Well you know what did nothing? Shooting Brian Thompson did nothing. United Health Group just hired a new CEO to run his division, and the real oligarchs continued looting the country even harder than before.

    So no, they don’t feel threatened. The top oligarchs like Elon barely even registered it. If you wanna know what they’re afraid of, look at where they spend money - buying politicians and opposing attempts to regulate them and break up their monopolies. Lucky for them there is no well funded lobby for consumers, people denied health care, or even the poor and middle class generally. Tell the next Luigi to work on that if you really wanna scare these people.

    • @[email protected]
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      BCBS reversed their decision to not cover anesthesia like a day after Thompson got deposed. It turns out direct action is actually effective

    • P03 Locke
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      13 months ago

      The top oligarchs like Elon barely even registered it.

      Elon admitted to Jon Rogan a week or two ago that he’s using his kid as a human shield to protect himself from an assassin.

      If you wanna know what they’re afraid of, look at where they spend money - buying politicians and opposing attempts to regulate them and break up their monopolies.

      Actually, mob justice and dying actually does scare them. It’s the one thing they can’t just buy their way out of.

      • @[email protected]
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        13 months ago

        The very rising sentiment of Luigi Magione being a good man is the real threat, because before the October revolution, they realized that proletariat class was able to rise against the bourgeoisie. Is a revolution imminent? Maybe, it’s not completely certain. But we definitely will see true leftism in the rise.

    • @[email protected]
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      13 months ago

      Well he was super violent.

      and Jesus went up to Jerusalem, 14And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: 15And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables;

      Upvoting that probably gets a ban now.

  • @[email protected]
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    03 months ago

    aww Murderers deserve the same end but he’s going to rot in jail with his rage instead. Good for us all.

  • @[email protected]
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    03 months ago

    Oh don’t worry - Lemmy will soon have people posting child porn, gore, or other things en-masse before reporting the site/domain. I’ve seen it on almost every Reddit alternative since Digg shut down.

    They’ll run hit pieces against this place for being extremist, they’ll do all sorts of nasty shit.

    So first they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you.

    • @[email protected]
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      13 months ago

      I wonder how resistant to that Lemmy will be, with the whole federation thing. Harder to ban it when it’s not just one domain.

      • @[email protected]
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        Yeah, I mean I barely understand this federated stuff. To my understanding, each instance has their own rules. I can’t post nudes on my Lemmy.ca to my understanding. I think if there’s an instance that is running “afoul” then the instance I connect with can block the entire instance?

        • Atelopus-zeteki
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          Yep, that’s how we roll. Others can tell you the details. I’m just an end user. On my end I can block nazi’s, or anyone I don’t like. u/universalmonk was one, acted so surprised when I blocked and didn’t want to explain why. Funny thing, if you can block someone for being an asshat, suddenly they are less encouraged to do that, and have to find a more socially acceptable way to be. Cheers.

          • Buckminster Fuller
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            u/universalmonk was one, acted so surprised when I blocked and didn’t want to explain why.

            Links to that? Because I’ve never seen Universal Monk act surprised when someone blocked him/her.

            In fact, he/she often recommended blocking them if you didn’t agree with what they said.

                • Buckminster Fuller
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                  All I did was ask for a link showing that UM was surprised or upset that you blocked her/him, because I’ve never seem them question that before. I always seem to remember them suggesting blocking them, not being upset by it.

                  I didn’t say you were incorrect; i was just asking for proof cuz I’ve never seen it. It’s not like I am super concerned about it or anything. But I don’t live on lemmy and have no investment between your feud–or whatever it is–with that person. not a big deal to me either way

            • KillingTimeItself
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              13 months ago

              daily reminder that you can just use they/them in place of he/her she/him pronouns because that’s literally a designed feature of the english language.

    • @[email protected]
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      03 months ago

      Reddit has CSAM on it. Reddit has a subreddit selling porn that is now known to feature CSAM. I along with a few others tried to kill it. We’re all here now.

      Lemmy has already had CSAM instances.

          • KillingTimeItself
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            13 months ago

            yeah that sounds about right, im guessing it’s not exactly public facing either, probably an off platform thing if i had to guess. It’d be wild to be posting that shit directly on the sub though.

      • @[email protected]
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        I remember growing up we’d be graded down on our writing papers if we used an acronym without spelling out what it meant the first time.

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    Well, Trump said that they will push to get the death penalty for drug dealers…

    Lock and load, folks.

    We’re hunting pharmaceutical CEOs.

  • Fingolfinz
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    Yeah the banning for upvotes thing was pretty final straw for me. It’ll be a conservative shit hole like Twitter soon enough

    • @[email protected]
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      03 months ago

      People up voting Luigi posts got banned? Yeah I’m glad I’m not on there anymore. Lemmy seems like my kind of community. Honestly feels like how reddit used to feel like. Good honest people.

      • @[email protected]
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        13 months ago

        upvoting is ridiculous, but from what ive heard another site, Upvoting, in general flags your account if its new on certain subs, i think they are just expanding it to sitewide.

      • Fingolfinz
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        They’re receiving warnings and stuff it’s been pretty fucky the last week with them so I’m out. I’ve heard of some bans for some odd stuff but I suppose some of it is hearsay. Yeah I’m really digging Lemmy it feels much more like the earlier internet where algorithms didn’t dictate everything and you can just find stuff organically

    • @[email protected]
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      13 months ago

      isnt it already, only allowing some center right content to be on it to “seem balance” but allowing right wingers to astroturf all the subs.