My company isn’t organizing any off-sites to the US for my remote first company anymore because of this shit lol. I think partially because nobody outside of the US would even go
Yup. That’s a possibility. I work in security and would tell them it’s just how we do things. If they send me home I will spend the week with my family instead of sitting in stupid training all week.
If you bring a burner phone and they search it and see nothing on it, they’ll think that suspicious too and might deny entry.
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I’ve heard past suggestions of things like Goatse
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No explicit source, but it’s common sense and within their abilities, keep in mind recently changed rules around searching in general have changed recently…
Border agent: I’m going to search your phone give me the password.
(eventually you agree because it’s a burner)
You: Here you go
Border agent: There’s nothing on this phone, no email, no pictures, nothing? What are you trying to hide?
You: Well it’s a new phone I just got
Border agent: And you haven’t logged into anything yet?
You: Ya.
Border agent: looks like you’re trying to hide something, this isn’t normal behaviour
You: start looking nervous as the border agent’s tone changes
Border agent: You’re looking a little nervous now, are you hiding something?
You: no, just trying to travel
Border agent: Goes away and talks to someone, then comes back and says, sorry were going to deny you.
They can deny anyone for any reason. It would ultimately come down to how you handle the situation, but DO expect to be grilled about it if you haven’t set it up to look real.
Don’t carry digital data across any border, even if encrypted. Many countries have totally different standards over search and seizure at their borders to when you have gained entry and sometimes far worse for non citizens.
america has freedom of speech but i guess not in this case.
America HAD freedom of speech. Now they’re disappearing people for it.
“Freedom of Speech” is a euphemism for hate speech and racism in the US.
Freedom of speech means whatever they want it to in that moment it seems
A good option is backing up your data, encrypting it, then uploading to a server you can retrieve it from once you’ve crossed
Setting up some stuff might look less sus than a freshly wiped device though
Australia has full rights to search hardware on entry. Careful coming here too.
Exactly. Don’t make assumptions just because you are travelling to a “friendly” country.
Just like going to china.
Ngl China didn’t touch my phone upon entry. Think my iris got scanned though and certainly got full palm printed.
One of the two people I know who have been to china had their phone taken for hours when they arrived. The other person reported much the same experience as you. The friend who had her phone taken was a US citizen but born of Chinese immigrants. The other who didn’t get their phone taken was not. I can’t help but think that her parents status there had something to do with.
That one born of Chinese immigrants would have been considered a citizen of China by the guards, not of the USA.
“Traveling to the US,” are you actually mad??
I had to go for work. I have a Nexus card and traveled very low key so I didn’t have any issues. I’ve told my company that I’m not interested in traveling to the US unless absolutely necessary. I have the advantage of being a white man in my late 50s.
It’s fine, same as it always was crossing the border, just don’t fuck around lying to border guards or announce you’re taking bookings for tattoos this week in Seattle on Instagram. Basically the news has decided to publicize this shit like it wasn’t happening 2 months ago either, same as how they focus on “kids in cages” only when a republican is president or plane crashes that 2 weeks there.
Why even visit a hostile country?
They’re a scientist. Science is pretty international and often involves travelling to all sorts of countries for conferences with other researchers in your field.
not to US now, that is became pretty anti-science. stems is already suffering in many areas before trump was elected, he just made things worst.
His job sent him
This. I personally have no plan going to usa now and in the future. Unfortunately some Canadians may still have to go for work related trips. Just be aware that you may or may not need to register in the new “Alien Registration Requirement”.
Just be aware that you may or may not need to register in the new “Alien Registration Requirement”.
And if you choose wrong, they might lock you up in a
detention centerconcentration camp.
There’s something ironic about reading this with a Home Depot (huge Trump supporter) ad embedded in it.
Just don’t go at all.
This is the only solution. I would rather eat nails than go to the States again.
I read that as snails and was about to comment “bonjour” … instead I did the joke in this meta way
Bonne journée mon ami(e).
Easy fix for me I just won’t go.
Don’t keep anything incriminating on your phone, yeah american border guards but also the fucking RCMP likes to grab phones.
Travel to the US and it’s your own fault. We have been warned.
My partner is a scientist and has to travel to the US for work later this year. We’re both dreading it, given all these stories of people being detained at the border.
Don’t.
Be safe.
I’m not saying there won’t be financial consequences, but they are well within their right to refuse. I would.
Are they in private or public sector? Because I can’t imagine a university or other government institution continuing to send people to America if hostilities keep increasing over the course of the year.
No need to go to the us. Fuck that hellhole.
Some of us that left still want to visit family when they’re dying
Lol free speech amirite
Why travel to that shithole.
People also travel to Pyongyang just to see just how shitty it is.
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I’d rather go there. Probably safer.
Honestly, just follow their rules and you’d probably be fine in NK. But maybe not so in the us
