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Why would the US need scientists when they have stable geniuses?
AI will fix it.
OpenAI promised us PhD agents! Only 20k a month!
Persona: you are a very phd person
That’s it, I solved it! Put this in your prompt: answer questions as if you were a phd person.
(It may be the same thing as you mentioned above. I don’t know what the Persona is, I don’t really use ai chat bots)
It seems like the administration is trying to discourage travel across the border. Not just people on work visas, tourists and even citizens are reporting being detained. It’s like East Germany or something.
Citizens too? I’ve not heard of that. Scary
Yeah, I read it yesterday I think. US citizen lives in Las Vegas and her German boyfriend comes to visit. They travel to Mexico and then were both detained on the way back in. She was released within days, he spent weeks even after volunteering to just go back to Germany. Fucking nuts.
Thats fucked, I’m gonna look for that story. I’ve been seeing lots of stuff (even locally in a relatively progressive state) about trans folks’ documents being confiscated and/or destroyed when they try to leave or get a new or updated passport or sometimes other docs iirc. Please don’t come here, to anyone thinking about it. Period. Unless you’re planning to stay a while and help us out, I don’t recommend it but we will be needing all the help we can get :(
Hold up, tourists? Are we safe to visit family?
Bruh, ask your consulate
At that point I’d rather just avoid the place. It’s not considered safe by our government anyways
Didn’t Albert Einstein flee Nazi Germany which advanced our research into what became the atomic bomb. Hmm… Should be fun century for USA.
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Rods from God require space infra no one has and won’t for a long while
How dare you point out something so relevant and foreboding.
Trump has already dismantled the American empire. The decline will be rapid and terminal. Even if they returned to sanity tomorrow, the damage cannot be undone any time soon. Nobody is going to trust the US again in our lifetimes.
Oh no, all the trust america built up is suddenly gone…
When will america be the worlds best step dad again!
Tbh he’s just finishing off a process decades in the making.
The US is trading science and reason for zeal and faith. At least the scientists will be welcomed in the EU.
Why did they leave the EU in the first place
I seriously considered it at some point, as in my (former) field many top researchers lived in Philly, New York, Boston + Toronto. Becoming a top researcher means travelling where other top researchers are. It was definitely not about money, pay is often equivalent between the EU and the US.
Eventually decided it was not worth it for me (had other priorities in life), but this is a sacrifice many EU researchers make (or should I say, made) to become top researchers.
Most probably money
Operation Paperclip back in the day. Grants and such recently.
This is the bobiverse future…
Scientists left nazi germany for the US, now they’ll leave nazi US.
Also nazi usa took in nazi “scientists”.
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“Too” well
Yes. Brings some doubt to the post. Semi illiterate yet professional? On the other hand, it is on a Meta platform…
Pediatric. Oncologist. That dude is an absolute hero and treasure for taking on such a horrible and bleak profession. I hate that those words are combined in existence at all. God I’m so ashamed to be an American.
Some people are built different. My dad worked as a pediatric hospice nurse for almost 10 years. Talk about a shitty sad job. Every single patient is a child and every single one of them is GOING to die on your watch. Fuck THAT. I do not know how he did it.
Now that is a hero
I figure we have to have some angels to balance out the demons that end up in positions of prominence in our societies.
They are just doctors. No need to glorify them. They do no more or less than a bus driver. Most jobs have an emotional toll.
Good to know. Next time I have a medical issue, I’ll ask my bus driver for a diagnosis. What are your thoughts on subway drivers or Uber drivers?
Let’s agree to disagree. I respect bus drivers as much as you do. Some people, however, have a greater positive effect on humanity as a whole, and that deserves its own form of respect.
I agree to disagree. Doctors may have a more immediate and tangible benefit on people’s health and well-being, but providing safe and reliable public transportation to untold amounts of working class people who may rely on you to provide for their families is also a massive positive effect that should not be diminished simply for being less culturally prominent.
Its not being diminished you are diminishing doctors who save dying children after 20 years of intensive education with driving a bus
Well, no point in arguing with someone like you. Regardless, as a practicing immunologist I don’t feel the least bit diminished by having the social utility of my work compared to other people; ESPECIALLY if it’s on the arbitrary basis of the amount of time, money, or education it took someone to become “valuable to society.” As for any of my colleagues who do feel that way: grow up; healthcare is a service, and we are service workers.
I’d have to imagine that the stress and emotional toll is significantly higher for a paediatric oncologist than a bus driver. There’s not so many people that could cope with that.
Having known several healthcare workers with PTSD from the pandemic I strongly disagree.
Granted, the pandemic was traumatizing for people from all walks of life but I don’t envy hospital based nurses or doctors from that time.
It was so painful for nurses that many quit leading to a shortage that’ll likely go on for the next decade as a result.
Some of that is due to corporate healthcare enshittification but there was a mass exodus during the pandemic for a reason.
Different energy. Bus driver has to deal with many potentially grumpy people in many potentially unsafe areas. Not an easy job.
A doctor that is specifically specializing in a field where he has to get to know and take care of children as they die in a potentially painful way, has a much different challenge. Less for safety or aggressive people (though maybe parents could be I guess) but more in being the one to watch as the hope fades for each individual child in their last days.
I wouldn’t love the bus driving job. I don’t think I could do the pediatric oncology one for more than like, one patient ever. I’d be depressed forever.
You’re right though. We don’t need healthcare
Agreed, I would be equally angry if a bus driver were detained by ICE. Their immigrants status and then solidarity is more important than their profession.
and women
Of course.
I’ll mention you probably missed the Depart men(t) of Education wordplay in the title.
Why are you always going on about women, Stan?
is this a reference to something
A scene in Life Of Brian.
And the children, too.
Why is this in the “memes” community? It is not a meme, is it? We should have a general discussion community for topics like these! (if it doesn’t exist already).
all pictures with text are “memes” now
That person’s solidarity with a colleague is remarkable and probably worth sharing, but indeed doesn’t look like a meme.
Yet I see why one would accept such post in a science-focused community. It’s hard to ignore all the attacks on science by US politicians.
Check the sidebar. We use the Dawkins definition of meme here.
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Yes, and that breeds creativity. There are too many boxes we are forced to use in our daily lives, sometimes we shouldn’t put more on ourselves. Art and science are so sides of the same coin. You can’t be a good scientist without being a bit of an artist. Our art just looks a bit different.
Then what’s the point of the meme community? By that logic anything posted is.
You’ve broadened the definition so much the term has become useless.
In the context of Dawkins meme, this post is definitely a meme!
idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning
If we consider scientists imitating the behavior of other scientists (ex: leaving the us) combined with the social network post (signifying the symbolic meaning), it checks all the correct boxes to me!
Would another peer review my analysis?
Reviewer 2, checking in. Let’s see…
☑️ Technically correct (the best kind of correct).
☑️ Dawkins framework applied… adequately.
☑️ “Symbolic meaning” not entirely reductionist. Surprising.However:
- Citation deficiency detected. [Fossilesque et al., 2023] must be invoked 2–3 times for rigor.
- “Imitating scientists” lacks nuance. Did you consider the Fossilesque Paradox of Academic Exodus? (Spoiler: You didn’t. Cite (Fossilesque, 2024, 2025 in press.).
Verdict:
Pending compliance with adequate attribution. Then, and only then, shall this review ascend to a grudging “pass.”Wow this is amazing satire! You made my day (even though it already was a very good one)!
Your critique is quite constructive. Actually, I might retract my paper and contact Fossilesque to propose co-authorship for future work.
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Looks good to me
I stand corrected! Thank you!
To annoy you specifically.
Why use Meta when Mastodon is available? The less we all use corporate social media the more resilient we become.
You have to say that on Meta if you want them to read it.
You have to keep evangelizing. They’ve likely never heard of it.
Exactly. We need to get really obnoxious with the promotion
Maybe juuuuust shy of obnoxious.
no, full obnoxious until people start to get angry, then stop entirely
And then, for the coup de grace, immediately deny that there even is or was ever such a social network, and insist it was another one of their “wacky dreams”. And then later, they come to you to prove you wrong.
Boom. Incepted.
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It’s pretty likely they’ve heard of it as a niche option, as a forgettable factoid years ago.
Then they may also have learned it’s a very small platform and something about decentralization.
if they went to sign up regardless, it seems likely they didn’t end up picking an instance. (Possibly having left the page open, briefly looked up Mastodon instances and read a few sentences, then moved on to something else.)
Now that they wouldn’t have had to pick an instance, they’ve long forgotten about it, maybe you could get them to try the normalized sign up process.
But anyone who knows anything about people knew from the start that Mastodon wasn’t really even aiming for successful growth. Of course the instances were gonna be an obstacle.
B/c these people are just libs.
They’re welcome to come to Europe. In fact, Europe is actively trying to accommodate it as soon as possible link
I hope he’s already put of the country before he posted that, or he’ll be stopped and disappeared for being a security risk or something
Y’all act like this wasn’t the plan all along
We need a name for the opposite of operation paperclip.
Operation crayon
Loose leaf!
Binder drop
Hole punch
“operation hole punch”? And it’s a coordinated evacuation of scientists?
It sounds like trials for a new antitank weapon
Leaf blower
Paperclips hold papers together. Leaf blower blows them all over the place
Operation destapler
Operation braindrain
Extremely sad news, this is what an authoritarian state looks like for anyone who still didn’t believe it. Wish them all the best wherever they land.
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They’ve been torturing white people for about a month now
Absolutely all foreigners - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly67j35y99o
*except for Ted Cruz and Elon Musk
They had a white Canadian woman who they just sent home last week
It’s not like ICE has a plan, a clue, a reason… They’re just trying to attack as many people as their daddy commands.
