Summary

The US tourism industry faces a major decline as harsh immigration policies deter visitors.

High-profile detentions of Western travelers have led to a forecasted 9% decrease in visits, reversing a previously expected 5% rise, and risking a $64 billion loss.

Germany and the UK updated travel advisories following detentions of citizens without clear visa violations.

Canadian tourism also dropped significantly amid tariff threats. Denmark and Finland warned transgender travelers about entry issues.

Experts cite anti-immigrant rhetoric and unpredictable enforcement as key deterrents.

  • tiredofsametab
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    21 month ago

    Hah, not intentionally. There are (or at least used to be), a lot of US folks who used to go there to drink since the age is 21 in the US. That’s dangerous, I suppose.

    • @[email protected]
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      351 month ago

      Go home and campaign for your leftist party to protect yourselves from the disease.

      Somehow, Nazis have returned.

      • yeehaw
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        101 month ago

        It’s like I’m loving real like call of duty Nazi zombies. They’re back.

    • @[email protected]
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      251 month ago

      A few weeks ago, I told my Canadian coworker that if she leaves to see her Dad, as she does at least once a year, she might not be able to come back. She just laughed like I was joking.

  • @[email protected]
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    721 month ago

    Good, this gives me a little hope that the rest of the world is starting to understand how awful the US is, and that there just might be a few actual consequences for that awfulness.

    • @[email protected]
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      71 month ago

      Note this means tourist areas should see prices drop on food in grocery stores because the supply was being created pre-decreased population. The decreased cash flow will hurt businesses and the suppliers will decrease production as to not have to sell at slim to no margins which will bring the prices back up soon enough (or the farmers/distributers will go out of business themselves).

      It will give people in those areas a false narrative for the time being though because they will be happy about lower prices and less car traffic… But all the resteraunts will have less patrons, and less money going to servers, less jobs to be had eventually.

      • @[email protected]
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        51 month ago

        I doubt prices will drop as fast as bankruptcies will increase because the distribution chain has that price inflation and it will react slowly. The tighter the margin the more quickly the business will fail.

        Employment will also drop quickly because firing people is a fast and easy way to reduce overhead so service quality will dive off a cliff.

        But, hey, less traffic! Yay!

    • @[email protected]
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      61 month ago

      The nature and scenery in the US is honestly stunning, and you’re lucky to have the NPS to make all of it so accessible.

      In saying that though; there is natural beauty everywhere you look in the world and it’s very easy, and often cheaper to go elsewhere.

    • @[email protected]
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      61 month ago

      bring a dozen eggs and give one to each ICE agent you encounter along the way

      As long as you “give” them somewhat percussively. If ICE is gonna detain you no matter what, make it count!

  • yeehaw
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    101 month ago

    I am starting to wonder how Americans would vote now if trump allows another election?

    • WrenM
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      61 month ago

      I’m pretty sure we all know how everyone would vote if given the chance to do it again. I only wish those that didn’t would have the humility it takes to admit they made a huge mistake.

    • @[email protected]
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      91 month ago

      Just wait a bit more. The real pain has not yet set in. Wait until they have to decide whether to keep their mom alive or feed their children. It won’t take long.

    • @[email protected]
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      41 month ago

      I live in a red state. We have a method of voting individual bills into our constitution as a majority process.

      We have voted in a reform to get big money out of our politics. The Republican majority in the state forced another vote with the most obfuscated language to get the state to overturn it. We have voted time and time again against Right to Work which is an anti-union bill. The Republicans have constantly tried to get it to happen. St Louis managed to get its police out from under State control, leaving Kansas City the only state in the nation with the state controlling the cities police… until the Republican ran state forced St. Louis back under its control.

      We voted in a higher minimum wage and guarantees for sick leave. We also voted in protections for abortions overturning the harshest ban in the state. These were overwhelming majorities. We as a state also overwhelmingly voted Republicans in, who have just overturned the min wage and sick leave bill, and are trying to figure out how to overturn the abortion protections.

      So if we had a COMPLETELY free and fair election. I guarantee you, at least the portion of the country I’m in, would still vote for anything with an ® next to their name.

    • lazynooblet
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      231 month ago

      Trump supporters continue to vote red despite decisions effecting their lives in profound ways.

      Look at the anti-vax response after their own child dies of a preventable disease. It’s moronic.

  • @[email protected]
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    311 month ago

    Is this what Project 2025 wants to happen? I heard 42% of their goals have already been implemented. Do they think that isolationism and going back to unilateral, strong armed foreign policy will work? And I thought the Nazis were really stupid…oh wait…

  • @[email protected]
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    461 month ago

    I really wanted to visit this year to for the first time, but instead I’m going to Canada and I’m really excited!

      • @[email protected]
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        81 month ago

        Yes. Don’t come to the south-western part where it’s rainy but warm. Pleugh. Very expensive.

        Avoid the posh hotels in Ucluelet (land in tahsis nearby if you don’t like the drive) or the beaches in Tofino. Or the forests around port Renfrew (YCD airport to skip that drive). Bleugh. Terrible. Not a Starbucks in sight.

        Vancouver too. Yuck. (YCH/YVR). Pretty blue glass and excursions to pretty bridges and hills and trails. Focus on the san-fran style homeless issues and high cost of your trip.

        Definitely Do Not go see ucky Canada. But we’d love to have you and hope you have a great time.

    • Em Adespoton
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      101 month ago

      Just a warning: both nations are huge, and depending on where you go you’ll have a very different experience.

      Generally in Canada, the colder the climate, the warmer the people, so you have to decide how much you value both.

  • Realitätsverlust
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    111 month ago

    Why even go visit the US? There’s nothing worthwhile to visit. And fatty american food I can get in almost any country

    • Pyr
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      101 month ago

      Come visit Canada instead (: pretty much the same, but you won’t be detained at the border.

  • @[email protected]
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    111 month ago

    The thing that sucks is that the USA is awesome, it had great nature, great cities and good food / people.

    The orange dipshit can’t take that away.

    That said, only visit / give your money to blue states, that’s what I’m doing.

    • Echo Dot
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      The one thing that really came home to me traveling in the US was how unbelievably different different parts of it are. If you were an alien or otherwise didn’t know where the borders of countries were you would not believe that Florida and DC could possibly belong to the same country they’re so completely different in culture.

      I honestly think that’s part of the problem the US has, they only have two parties and that’s nowhere near enough diversity to cover all of the different kinds of cultures the US has. I have to imagine people in North Dakota have completely different priorities to people in California. Yet there’s absolutely no political recognition of that.

      • @[email protected]
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        51 month ago

        Not just political but cultural, most of the great planes states were borne as nations during the height of the Cold war (the dust bowl kinda stalled/reset a lot of progress) which seems to have fucked them up weirdly. A lot of Americans can’t seem to move past the fiction of a unified culture meaning they can’t actually work within the reality of cultural and national differences. The United States isn’t a nation it’s 50+ nations in a trenchcoat descended from a shit tonne of different cultures and nations.

      • Echo Dot
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        31 month ago

        Depends what you get them from though. The ones in Florida are just leathery

  • @[email protected]
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    281 month ago

    Only 9% decrease? That sounds pretty optimistic.

    I’d guess it will be more like 50%. Guess we’ll see.

    • @[email protected]
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      61 month ago

      I was reading somewhere online someone’s observation at Dulles airport near DC, and they said the place was like a ghost town, and they asked a worker about it and they said it’s been like that for weeks.

      • @[email protected]
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        21 month ago

        There was also a recent high-profile crash around there and traffic is being re-routed while the cut-down FAA figures out the airspace.

    • @[email protected]
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      71 month ago

      People book vacations like that well in advance. So there’s a time delay between the bookings and drop. Yesterday I read an article about Dutch travel agencies seeing far less bookings for US holidays. In january they saw a 20 percent drop, but they didn’t have February figures yet.

      So by the end of this year, the tourism decrease will likely be much higher.

    • @[email protected]
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      61 month ago

      I mean, it’s only been 2 months. 9% drop vs 5% gain is a 14% shift from expected. That’s impressive, and Trump administration is just getting started.

    • Em Adespoton
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      51 month ago

      What I’m interested in is what this does to the international conference scene. I can’t imagine many of them will be hosted in the US this year, even if the event was already booked.

  • Lanske
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    221 month ago

    Who in their right mind would want to visit to US at this moment? It’s a clusterf*ck and even with a visa and a return ticket you could be detained.

  • @[email protected]
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    211 month ago

    None of the researchers in my lab go to conferences in the US anymore (there is remote participation since covid).

  • @[email protected]
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    301 month ago

    Just imagine a legal tourist in the US gets their wallet stolen.

    Once, when people in the US had rights, he would contact the police, who would help him getting in contact with the embassy.

    Where would the tourist end up nowadays? In Gitmo? Or a South American prison?

  • Echo Dot
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    81 month ago

    On Friday there was a meeting at work where everyone insisted that they will not go to the US office anymore.