If U.S. President Donald Trump fails in his stated goal of annexing Canada through economic force, what would happen if he ordered the world’s most powerful military to invade?
Some experts and academics say it’s a notion too preposterous to even contemplate. But Aisha Ahmad isn’t one of them.
“When you look at the power (imbalance) between the U.S. and Canada, an invasion would immediately result in the defeat of the Canadian Armed Forces,” said the University of Toronto political science professor, who last month published an essay on the subject in The Conversation.
“But a conventional military victory is not the end of this story. It’s just the beginning.”
It would cause a civil war within US itself.
I feel like this has to be the case. America is a disaster but I cannot fathom the populace or even the military being complacent as they march over the border.
Look up Kent state shootings. They fired on their own. The people in the military are maybe there for an education but mainly to get paid and some to shoot people. They’ll have no issue attacking us at all.
If it comes to that, those that would have an issue will have left on their own or been purged by that point.
I don’t know why everyone assumes the use of military force to annex Canada would take the form of a massive conventional invasion. Hybrid warfare approaches like spreading misinformation, covert ops, stirring up local pro-American militias, etc. could do 95% of the work, without the sort of overt violence that generates insurgencies.
It’s very possible to defend against hybrid threats, but only if we recognize the threat exists instead of assuming a US invasion would necessarily be a catastrophic strategic blunder.
Canadians will walk amongst their invaders. They wont be safe.
Starting to really consider a meshtastic device for every family member. Thankfully, we mostly all live within range of each other.
Do you plan to DIY? I am intrigued but wish there were more reasonably priced and well-reviewed turnkey units.
Yeah, I will probably DIY it. I need to cover 6 households, so I’ll be buying in bulk.
I thought about this as well, but kinda assume they’ll be jammed fairly quickly if discovered to be tactically useful. And then non of our garage door openers will work.
I feel like it would be useful for mobilization more than anything. By the time they get around to jamming signals, I think my family will be safely out of harm’s way. If it works after that, bonus.
Is there any communities dedicated to helping Canadians prep? IE, content like guides on getting your PAL, information on firearms, and just general independence and (realistic) prepping advice?
Rod and Gun* clubs, and similar groups, are all over the country. They have all of what you need. The diversity of a group might vary based on things like region but charter-rights Canadian values are generally a baseline.
If a search engine isn’t helping to find an appropriate target sports group try calling local gun ranges and asking them for contacts.
*god and run clubs
Not that I’m aware of. There are manuals/pamphlets that other nations have put out that offer some basic advice, ie: have 3 days-2 weeks of canned food available, fill multiple jugs with potable water, etc.
Fyi - PAL courses are filling up fast in my area, so people are aware of that at least.
Government should cancel PAL requirements and all registration type paperwork. Make it hard for US to track guns
That would also make it a lot harder for the Canadian government to track whether pro-American annexationists are amassing guns. We can’t assume everyone who wants a gun is a Canadian patriot, especially if the US ramps up hybrid warfare techniques to stir up unrest here.
How tough would it be for an insurgency force in a nation with high gun ownership rates and who have been more or less comfortable committing war crimes in the past? I suspect Canadians would drop the officer average lifespan by at least a decade.
Elbows Up!
Because going to war with people who like the cold is always a good idea.
Smh
I would expect American insurgents supporting our former Canadian allies and friends.
I know I would.
Come fuck around with Canada, murica! We’ll be waiting for you!
If they do invade us they will have accepted genocide as the most efficient tactic before crossing the border.
As long as they understand we will show no mercy!
Neither will the Americans that decide to help you guys. Trump and Co seem to forget that the right hasn’t had a monopoly on guns for a long time in this country. The left just doesn’t make it our entire personality.
BTW, I’m pretty sure you patriotic Canadians can still legally purchase old APCs and BMPs from our stockpiles. Might wanna get a few for each town near the border. At least I’m pretty sure it would be legal for you to buy them down here. Dunno if Canada would have something to say about that. Tell Canada they’re for the mounties, lol.
If they wanna fuck around with Canada, they’ll find out. Same for Mexico.
and that the canadians will have help from everywhere
I mean, I don’t really want to genocide America, but I guess if they’ve accepted that who am I to hold back?
Do you have any idea how hard it is to focus on school/studying when this is the kind of news that keeps popping up?
I remember being constantly terrified of nuclear annihilation during the cold war in the 80’s, when every night after dinner, Peter Jennings would tell America how close we were to MAD. Now I live in Canada and I have that same existential dread that I had 45 years ago living in the US, except somehow it’s even worse
worse than nuclear annihilation? I guess that would at least be quick. I was complaining to my parents about how shit just being alive is right now and they replied with “every generation has their struggles”… I had to cut the conversation there, I couldn’t even be bothered to respond to that.
As you grow older you learn how to have control over your brain, ie: you can, through practice, tell it to shut the fuck up when it’s screaming all your fears at you all at once.
Your brain can either be like a spoiled child running around creating chaos, or a fairly well behaved child who listens to your requests and needs. Choose wisely.
As someone who is in their 40s this has been my life since about 2006. Crisis after crisis, all the while boomers got theirs and all future generations are fucked from it
Just turn it off and stop caring i guess, it’s the boomer way
I guess if you wanna turn it off that’s your choice.
I prefer to teach it some manners and self-control instead.
Take life head on. Don’t shut out your feelings or ignore what’s happening
Entire generations are losing to a “I got mine mentality”. Now is the time to fight. Fuck manners and self control. It’s time to organize and destroy facism again
I’m not avoiding life. I’ve simply taught my brain to stop ranting about future and present fears that I can’t do anything about.
That’s how I have the time to sleep peacefully and prepare for what’s coming, instead of freaking out.
One of those fears is of the mad cruelty of a few men, the other is of the mad cruelty of thousands, if not millions, of attackers and supporters.
Having life suddenly end in a brilliant flash sounds scary, but struggling through decades of war torn hell sounds depressing. And believable. :(
I know a few people who’ve had to limit their news consumption so that they could focus on life. It might help.
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we’ve instituted Analog Sundays at our house. No screens of ANY kind. No computer, no tablets, no tv, no phone. Books, boardgames, sketch books, musical instruments. It makes for a great brain reset and lowers those cortisol levels a titch.
I have a job that’s repeatedly being reminded that it’s going to be taken over by AI in my news feed. Between Marvel Rivals and Penn and Teller Magic Tricks I get reminded of constant tariffs and war.
Do yourself a favour and find different outlets and ways of getting information. Mental health is important dude.
Do they mean an insurgence comprised of Canadians or US folk…? Both maybe.
Definitely both.
I’d join the insurgency from within. We have lots of overkill guns down here and very little supervision over who can buy them.
There are a fuck of a lot of guns here, we just had a lot of boating accidents every time new laws came in to punish legal, vetted and licensed gun owners.
Like “I dropped my now-illegal gun in the lake” type accidents? I’m out of the loop on this one.
Yah, like if the cops ask about it, it got lost in a boating accident.
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Well shit. Wouldn’t American laws apply to the new citizens? The very laws intended to prevent violent occupation?
Hahahaha. Those laws are for “citizens”, not subjects.
decades long is an understatement. unless they mean the US itself will collapse
Maybe not collapse, but they sure as hell won’t ‘win’.
In a recent article published in The Atlantic magazine, (American military historian Eliot) Cohen used a tongue-in-cheek approach to warn Americans against invading Canada, pointing out that previous attempts led to dismal results.
His review of American military failures starts in 1775, when U.S. troops invaded Quebec, where they distributed pamphlets — translated into French — awkwardly declaring: “You have been conquered into liberty.” The campaign ended in disastrous defeat for the American Continental Army in December 1775.
During the War of 1812, former U.S. president Thomas Jefferson said conquering Canada was “a mere matter of marching.”
“This was incorrect,” Cohen wrote. “The United States launched eight or nine invasions of Canada during the War of 1812, winning only one fruitless battle. The rest of the time, it got walloped.”
There was a certain light colored house that got lit on fire by retaliatory forces back in 1812.
This being something to talk about is fucking incredible.
They’ve gone completely off.
It’d be like a remake of Red Dawn but with the cast of Letterkenny.
“Give yer balls a tug, ya MAGAt bastard!!” lol
