Sigma Gabriel
W name in this context lmao frfr ong
EU & Friends
Actually, the EU has a whole bouquet of options for countries that want to cooperate with it. It can be trade agreements, free trade area, currency union, Schengen Area and so on. Norway, Switzerland and Turkey are examples of different degrees of associated status.
But be aware that any full EU membership would non-negotiable include the right of not only companies but also people to move freely in the common area - yes, that would mean that any EU citizen has the right to move to and live in Canada, and vice versa, as long as these persons can support themselves.
Discrimination against people that can’t support themselves.
Not really. It prevents countries from bearing the burden of maintaining other nation’s unemployed, incapacitated, etc…
If Canada joins EU, should we change its name? Any suggestions?
Why change? Canada is a perfectly good name.
I didn’t even realise this comment was a joke and was confused at OPs question, until I realized they were thinking about the EU.
We could name it the UE. United Earth.
Why not EU (earth united)
EEU (Europe Etc Union)
Super Earth. Our home.
Federated union of nations.
Sounds FUN.
Well you could say it’s a treaty of organisations all located by the North Atlantic… TONA? I dunno, it could never work!
ATON - Atlantic Treaty Organization of the North?
We could get rid of all nukes and still threaten with aton bombs.
Should be something that works in most languages
Northern Union? Atlantic Union?
Honestly keeping it the EU might be the easiest.
Canada joins EU, blue states join Canada. Bada bing, bada boom
The majority of people even in blue states were fine with Trump. No thanks, they can stay where they are.
It doesn’t really make sense for Canada to be a member of the EU simply because Canada isn’t in Europe. What we could do is grant Canada a deal similar to what Norway has now. We’re one of four members of EFTA, which are part of the EEA without being EU members.
I must admit that my knowledge of Canada is shallow at best but my impression is that its overall values align well with western European democracies.
This is exactly what I was thinking.
It would mean replacing The CAD with the EUR, would be kinda funny to see EU flags on the border between the US and Canada though…
You can still decorate your Euros how you want, so we could keep our beavers and loons.
You have loons on your doubloons? 👀
Yes, we call our dollar coins “loonies” as a result. By analogy, the bimetallic $2 coin is the “toonie” for two.
That looks like a joke written out, but it is not.
In fact, the following EU countries do not (yet) use the euro, but their own currency:
Bulgaria
Czech Republic
Hungary
Poland
Romania
SwedenIn theory they’re legally obligated to switch one day. In practice Romania is being blocked by other EU members.
Also Denmark.
Denmark has a dispensation they arranged when forming the EU.
Sweden and the other countries does not.
When joining the EU you are commited to switching to the Euro when you have fullfilled the criteria for doing so, Sweden has decided to not fullfill the criterias required and will therefore keep the Krona for the forseeable future.
I want this if only just to see Vance complaining about EU expansion at their border.
No need for them to adopt the Euro though. Many EU countries are still on their original currency even now.
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Cool. I’m not offended by that. 28th member sounds respecta. 51st state, not so much. 😂
As much as I like Canada compared to the US, they are not European by any stretch of the imagination. I’d be for free trade and free movement as a beginning, but part of the European Union is a bit much.
It’s not possible by current legislation aswell. You need to be on the European continent to join the EU.
Fun fact: being located on the European continent is actually not a requirement. It is only mentioned that you need to be “European” which is open to interpretation (although, of course the continent comes to mind first). It basically says you have to have some relation towards being European, whether that is by politics, culture or by location (preferrably all of the above).
The best example would be Cyprus, which is actually located on the Asian continent but is culturally closer to Europe than Asia.
Canada feels like one of the more “European” leaning countries considering this. That said, I think the chance of them joining the EU in the close future admittedly feels pretty low. But you never know, maybe the EU evolves into something of a counter concept to whatever is happening in the USA right now.
No, technically you just need to be “European”, which is never strictly defined anywhere. It was being considered that Algeria join after all, but it didn’t happen because of the civil war (from my understanding of the situation). Canada is one of the most European-like non Europe countries, so it would kinda fit.
aswell
Not a word, my dude.
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This is English, anything can be a word, it just has to be used enough, and understood aswell. I think it’s perfectly cromulent.
So fetch. And way comma-spliced.
Nah we just need a fancy team name for the not-absolute-fuck-head countries.
I mean EU is Europe and I fucking love you guys but down here in Australia we can’t just up and move the continent to Europe.
I don’t think the name should be dependent on membership like BRICS or whatever because you don’t want to have to rebrand when you kick someone out or let someone in.
I think it should include a word like collaborative because honestly, that’s what it’s about - we’re better off working together.
It’s also important to choose a name with a catchy acronym that isn’t already taken.
Maybe Collaborative Union of Nice Terran States.
A-tier shitpost 👍
EBU EU whats the difference?
If Australia can be part of the Eurovision song contest so It can be of the EU. Also everybody already asume anyway that you are just Austria.
How about just, free world. The rest are fascist dictatorships anyway.
We’re also democratic, we should call it the free democratic coalition of states.
Its not like there is any bad precedent in using names like this, like democratic republic of korea, or just referring to USA as “land of the free”…
Not true, there’s also we poor countries who can’t afford hanging around with the nice guys in the block
Well who says you cant join up? An alliance like NATO doesnt have a price tag except for the 2% minimum defence limit, but it’s 2% subjective to your income. So you literally can afford that.
Yes but then you’d need NATO’s approval. Remember how Erdogan put all sorts of 'but’s to Finland and Sweden, countries with way more wealth (and more arguments to be included in NATO) than one like mine
But its about European values. Compassion, democracy, empathy, forgiveness and freedom
I still would not call them European values, it comes of as values that exist in Europe and nowhere else. And I’d rather have compassion, democracy etc everywhere.
As a European, I don’t think we can claim exclusive ownership of those concepts.
You just answered yourself. Just call it CUNAFHC - Collaborative Union of Not-Absolute-Fuck-Head-Countries
Let’s go CUNTS!
I like “Commonwealth”.
But I re-read your comment and the initialism is a solid option.
How about “The Commonsense”?
It would be nice, but we’re not there yet.
That would be confusing since then Canada would be part of two commonwealths.
Yeah but commonwealth has connotations that don’t apply.
I completely forgot that this guy was our foreign minister for over a year.
What, you forgot all about Siggie den Grätenlosen, Siggie the Fishboneless?
Let’s do it.
From the limited stuff I know about Canada, please no. They only seem reasonable because they are only ever compared to usa.
lol wut? This is the first anti-Canadian comment I’ve ever heard. Canadians are unreasonable? “I do not know much about them, but in my self-admittedly ignorant opinion I think they are an unreasonable people”. Wouldn’t that make us fit right in if everyone in EU was like you?
lmao. I’m going to be laughing about your comment for the rest of the day. Thank you.
Treatment of the indigenous people is the first thing that comes to mind. 5 eyes, black face, (re?)electing a crack smoker.
Just the 5 eyes thing is a deal breaker for me.
Treatment of the indigenous people
That’s fair, and IMO should be the deal breaker. (edit: how unreasonable of me)
5 eyes
We’re a junior partner and net recipient. Our judiciary flat out prevents most of our participation, and we’d likely leave it to join,
black face
That thing that originated in Europe? Or the American version that isn’t us?
(re?)electing a crack smoker.
He might have been re-elected as a Ward councillor, but I don’t think it is fair to hold an entire nation responsible for 1 city’s stupidity. A nation that for the most part considered them a laughing-stock.
Regardless, I’m not actually in favour of joining the EU directly but fully support bolstering our alliances.
black face
That thing that originated in Europe? Or the American version that isn’t us?
They’re probably talking about that time Justin Trudeau, our former PM, did something stupid and racist at a party decades ago. Actually he seems to have done it more than once. It was pretty bad, but it’s a weird thing to judge a whole country on.
Oh snap I completely forgot about that. Well, I’ll hold the behaviour of our historical leaders up against the EU’s any day. TBF they’ve had far longer to put stupid shit on record than we have ofc.
Yeah, exactly. He’s not even in charge anymore.
What’s the internet regulation like in Canada? What’s fiber penetration like? What about public transport? What’s Canada’s stance on green and renewables? How are votes counted? Is the Canada pro-regulation?
What’s the internet regulation like in Canada
What’s Canada’s stance on green and renewables
Is Canada pro-regulation?
We are a nation of ~40 million people, speaking two official languages, spread out amongst 10 provinces and 3 territories, encompassing the 2nd largest land area behind russia. We have 4 ‘recognized’ parties (Conservatives, Liberals, New Democrats, and Bloc Quebecois) and the Greens are an up and coming party that have members in the House. We are too diverse to say ‘we are all pro anything (except maybe Hockey)’. That said, we are a Social Democracy so regulate far more than the US despite (perhaps in spite of) their economic influence.
Something you didn’t ask about but I think you’d likely be interested in is our Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
I wonder what you’re thinking of. On just about every issue there’s somewhere in Europe further right or further left. Since this is Lemmy you probably don’t mean we like immigrants too much.
With the increasing far-right influence in the EU, Canada should steer well clear. Unless that’s something they’d like to contribute to themselves.
The far right is currently collapsing here, and was never as prominent as in France or Germany in the first place.
And California, Washington, Oregon and Hawaii please 🙏🏼
C.h.o.w? Nice.
