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Were all the "ja"s an affectation or do modern Germans just ja that much?
I work for a German company. They definitely ja that much. My wife couldn’t believe how many times they said it when I was on a company call with the higher ups the other day.
As a non-native English speaker, ages ago I moved to The Netherlands (were they also use “ja” for “yes”) and once I learned Dutch and got used to speak it as much or more than English, I noticed a definite tendency on my English for my “yes” to come out quite “ja”-like (sorta like an “yeah” with a pretty much silent “e”), though granted not as strong as that guy.
Maybe this is some kind of broader linguistic tendency (non-native English speakers used to a “yes” in a different language that’s pretty close to one of the English words for “yes” - in this case “yeah” - just doing the lazy thing of using the other language word or a softened version of it because English-speakers get it) rather than a German-specific thing.
I would be curious to hear from Dutch people and people from Scandinavia (if I’m not mistaken most if not all of whose national languages use a “ja” for “yes”) if they tend to do that or not.
Yes
Definitely affectation. I suspect the strong German accent is as well. His vocabulary is too good for it.
What a bunch of hosers, eh?
That dude is just exaggerating the accent and pandering to get views. He’s trying to be the ‘in Germany we don’t say’-guy but for mericans. Unfortunately he isn’t funny, which caters to the ‘Germans have no humor’ stereotype
Yeah
That’s mostly an affectation. And as a German myself I have to say that his accent is atrociously german.
its a whole movie trope that this is an issue in europe because their infrastrucutre doesnt support cars
Yeah, ok, he’s not wrong, but also, he can f— right off. We don’t need/want foreigners 2 cents, we know it’s fucked, but fuck him. Sorry.
Haha, do you mean that for real? I am curious who you are in real life, you seem to be an interesting person.
I live on a small 14-acre farm in my parents’ 5 bedroom house. I had some issues and moved back home several years ago, but now I couldn’t leave because there is too much to do, and they are older now and need more help around here.
Well hell yeah. Who is this German ass hole? Thinks he fucking superior? I think his country and people have plenty of their own issues and bullshit. It was 1 stuck ambulance in NY city, and he’s going to talk all that bull shit about our country?
I’m sorry, but I’m not very patriotic until I see this kinda shit. That German can fuck on back to his own country and act like prick about his own ambulances stuck in traffic.
Well that’s the thing. Our ambulances are not stuck in traffic :D
Either way! You (and him, or other like kind) can fuck right on back. You don’t think we have eyes? And we know it’s ridiculous, but do you see us locals talking shit like that? Well. And even if you do, it’s our place to talk shit about, not yours.
Aren’t Germans supposed to be smart enough not to act like a jackass in a foreign country?
Well I am not in a foreign country and it’s everybodys place to talk shit about everything. If you don’t like it, don’t read it. Don’t take it too seriously. I would be happy if you point out something ridiculous about Germany. It’s to better ourselves or to laugh together at it.
No, it’s not… terrible take. You sound unapologetically German. So, German… but you also sound young. Anyway…
Thanks?
This comment actually perfectly encapsulates how the US has got to the point that it’s at today.
No it really doesn’t
Lol ok thank you. I concur.
I’ve seen roads so congested in NYC that they literally cannot get through. Saw a firetruck honk for a solid 5 minutes before getting to move anywhere.
It’s German John Cena.
John Zena
*Johann
I’m not an American but I’ve lived in Washington for years. Every time an Ambulance is moving with its siren on, people move to the side of the road to let it pass. This guy is just inaccurate.
He clipped the video as someone was moving out of the way
Manhattan has gridlock that prevents this. There’s no space to move into.
yup, I was on a street so narrow just a couple months ago that I couldn’t pull over far enough to let a firetruck go by. I had pulled over as far as I could. The truck got behind me and I couldn’t move over. SO I just said “fuck it” - and zoomed into the road as fast as was safe and turned off the road the first place I could find.
But surely this one example is enough to judge an entire country by!
When your MPD switches to Richthofen
What’s German for “trying too hard?”
But they at least still have ambulance. Wouldnt want to be in the UK while having a heartattack
I’m only across the water in Ireland and I can tell you from experience that ambulances arrive quickly, are free and so is the treatment. The UK health system is measurably better than ours so I feel like this is plucked from somewhere that the sun doesn’t shine.
I feel like this is plucked from somewhere that the sun doesn’t shine.
To be fair, that describes the UK pretty well.
I might as well not have one here in the states, I’m not wealthy enough. My health plan is to walk it off until I die young
Are you saying the UK doesn’t have ambulances?
That’s a ridiculous and easily disprovable claim.
Also aren’t the nonexistent uk ambulances free?
As in not charged at a rate of thousands of dollars, they’d still be tax funded I assume.
I have family over there and they told me that health system went from one of the best pre brexit to quite bad today with huge waiting times for ambulance.
We may are a bit spoiled by the german health system.
And yes, i know that US have one of the most expensive and worst health systems for a so called first world country.
Well, maybe your family called for a bullshit emergency.
The wait times for actual life threatening emergencies are low. But the data is public, take a look for yourself.
It’s the same when somebody complains about long wait times in the ER in Germany. If they had to wait a long time, it wasn’t an emergency. Simple as that.
Here is a video that explains it to non-medical people how it works
And here the data about ambulance wait times in the UK
https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/resource/ambulance-response-times
If you have an heart attack they are there in ~8 Minutes
Maybe look at the actual data before spewing dumb shit
https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/resource/ambulance-response-times
You’re fucked ja
Oopsie whoopsie.
In case you wanna see a “RETTUNGSGASSE!!!” (= rescuing lane) in action this clip is what it looks like ideally. If traffic slows down for whatever reason or if there are sirens in the distance drivers are supposed to assume this formation pre-emptively and misusing it is a crime.
At about 10 seconds on the video you can actually see a guy getting out of the way of the ambulance to let it through, though he was not doing it preemptively and the guy ahead of him couldn’t care less.
So I actually experienced one of these on 64W between VA Beach and Richmond. It was amazing how everyone including myself just instinctively moved to the sides of the road. It’s not a hard concept it just takes cooperation.
Also space to pull over is important. Here in the midwest we have room to move over and everyone does, honestly way more than is necessary. Like people start to pull over a few blocks in front of the ambulance if they just hear the siren.
New York’s problem in the video is the congestion makes it hard to move out of the way when there is nowhere to go.
That’s how it’s supposed to work in the US too. Maybe it depends on the state but in MN at least it’s illegal to fail to pull over for emergency vehicles. If you see any emergency vehicle on the road running with lights on then you are supposed to stop and pull off to the side so that they can have the whole road.
The video in the OP looks nuts to me too. I’ve never seen people fail to pull over for an emergency vehicle in my area.
This is a very NYC phenomenon, everywhere else I’ve ever been and lived in the US moves out of the way for emergency vehicles with their lights and sirens on, I’ve seen both issues where there is nowhere to go and times where people just don’t care, every time I’m in NYC I hope to not need medical attention
This is how it is in Manhattan when it’s busy. It’s not so much failing to pull over so much as there is nowhere to go.
What I find strange in Germany is that there is literally an emergency lane on the right side of the highway but they block it to make a corridor in the center
That’s the “Standstreifen” and it’s used for towing, parking after an accident or other emergency and as an extra lane during traffic jams and road work. That’s too many use cases to make them also suitable for emergency vehicles.
Ah ok I didn’t know, where I live you can’t use it for towing or as an extra lane (wpu get fined if you do that)
Not everyone can use it for towing and it only doubles as an extra lane when the road signs say so but my point is emergency services can’t rely on it being available.
Yeah it’s understandable, here is just the occasional accident or some roadworks but those will be signalised in advance
There’s no place for anyone to move to. The congestion is such that you cannot get out of the way. The Van Wyck alone will slow an ambulance to 3-5mph because of traffic. You cannot get out of the way if there’s no place to go!
There seems to be quite some space there compared to what I’ve seen emergency vehicles use here in the Netherlands. Recently there was one traveling across a pretty narrow bridge and a road that normally allocated 2 cars. The traffic was completely stuck and yet somehow the emergency vehicle got enough space to travel through. It outpaces me while I was racing down the bridge on a bike. That was more crowded and narrow than this. People went everywhere with their car to create a way for the emergency vehicle
There’s congestion in German cities too. The point isn’t to drive away. During rettungsgasse, nobody goes anywhere. They just make way by stopping to the sides.
The problem in NY is that the cars are too big for the lanes to do that.
There are no lanes to move aside into. It has nothing to do with vehicle size or “driving away”. I really don’t know what to tell you, I’ve spent plenty of time in several German cities as well as US cities, the comparison isn’t there. There are no breakdown lanes or shoulders to move into in many places to make room for emergency vehicles. You’re welcome to argue all you want, but I drive in and around NYC regularly so I’m more than familiar.
You don’t need an extra lane, if the traffic on your side moves to his right side and the other side moves to their right side, there would be plenty space in the middle for the ambulance to pass
As if the usa is the only country in the world with congested rush hour traffic. I’ve been in streets that were way more tightly packed + chaotic than this and people would still clear a path for vehicles with sirens. The emergency vehicle would only be able to go 20 to 30 kmh without a motorcycle escort, but that’s still significantly faster than what we’re seeing here.
What we’re seeing in this video, is that (some) vehicles that are directly in front of the ambulance move out of the way, but vehicles that are a tiny bit further ahead, don’t even try. If a vehicle that is directly in front of the ambulance can move out of the way, then a vehicle that is 30 places ahead, is also able to move out of the way, but they don’t even try … What should happen is that as soon as drivers hear a siren, they should start looking for where it’s coming from and then clear a path, and drivers should also especially not be driving into the path that others are clearing. Instead it seems like these drivers wait till the siren is right behind them and only then some start to move out of the way.
Looking for excuses in American exceptionalism reads like a case of “we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas”. This particular problem is something that can be easily improved upon by a public awareness campaign and some light fines for those that keep obstructing after the campaign has been running for some time. But what’s obviously even easier than that, is finding an excuse to continue doing nothing about the problem.
Well, I guess you’ve got it all figured out then. Just stupid Americans, right?
Yes. With video evidence.
Yeah, absolutely. Americans making excuses as to why solutions that work in other countries, would not work in the USA, are a scourge on your society. Your lives could be so much better if you lot stopped falling for that American exceptionalism propaganda and stopped inventing reasons to not do anything about known problems. And now that you’ve turned into a banana republic, I’m done being polite about it.
A retort that completely disregards the reasons why it doesn’t work in some major cities based on the sole example presented here while you make sweeping judgements conflated into an overall condemnation of everyone living here. Wow. Fuck right off. Really. Blocked.
Part of the problem is that the “rugged individualism” that America was founded on also equates to entitlement. The last generations that truly had it rough, where a community spirit was important to surviving are dying or gone, and no one has learned their lesson. Yet.
Yeah but they do actually just stop. If there is a siren anywhere in the area, and everyone just stops driving their car. Even when there is somewhere to go, no one ever does.
Yeah that’s usually at an intersection where the only place to go to is into a red light with crossing traffic. A quick search of laws in the US shows no relief for motorists just because there’s a fire truck behind you trying to get through. If you run the red light to make way you could be ticketed (even though it would be real asshole to issue the ticket), and if someone hits you while you run the red or move into tbe intersection to make way it’s your fault. So there’s a lot of disincentive to move in those cases. Where I live people all move over if they can. Otherwise they stay put to be predictable and let the emergency vehicle use the breakdown lane or oncoming traffic. Worst thing is when people cluelessly start randomly trying to outsmart the ambulance and cause a clusterfuck of cars that nobody can get past. US drivers have fuckall for discipline.
I feel like this is mostly your fault for letting 12-year-olds drive, which seems to be the US norm.
Hey have you attended high school education? Great, here is a gun feel free to drive like a maniac who has no concept of lane discipline.
Americans make the Italians look considerate
It took a sinister turn right at the end…
Love it!
This is a funny clip and an accurate depiction of NYC congestion.
But, I live in a major city and we make way for ambulances. If it’s this bad we’ll end up with civilians running red lights or cops on motorbikes to unfuck gridlock.
I myself ran a red light last week in rush hour to GTFO when I hear sirens. Just turn on my hazards, slow roll into the red light. Cars were already stopping for me so I was safe, then pulled over.
This is really just making fun of NYC traffic and how fucked it is. The delivery makes it extra funny since we rarely get such an animated German on the front page.
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