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This is the kind of culture you get and deserve when you allow corporations to control your country and culture
It’s not just corporations. It’s the individual over the collective. And that is just the nature of certain societies, specifically more competitive societies. In India for example, the mindset of everyone in traffic is ‘me over others’ - fuck everyone else, i grab what space I can get. If I don’t, the next fucker will. Like if it starts raining, your 1 hour trip is now 3 hours, not 1.5 hours because there will be a jam at every intersection in the city. There are just so many people on the road and infrastructure (and society / government at large) that hasn’t lent itself to cooperation but rather competition. It becomes their mindset, it becomes everyone’s mindset. That is why many from that region turn right politically. I bet it’s the same for many Latin countries.
I’m in Portugal, and it’s definitely not.
I mean, people are clearly more selfish behind a wheel than they are in person (a lot of Portuguese “good manners” is really just social shame, which isn’t there when people feel anonymous, so many become a lot less polite when inside a car), but everybody just moves over when an ambulance comes and for example you’re more likely to be given way to turn off the road across the other lane, than not.
You do see some asshole shit (for example, cars trying to scare pedestrians into waiting for the car to pass before entering a zebra crossing), but generally it’s a minority (which the notable exception of people not using direction indicators to help others, only themselves, which is a majority) rather than the majority.
In my experience Spain is pretty similar.
From own experience in Latin America it wasn’t much worse, though I was only ever in Peru and I wasn’t long in Lima to get a good feeling for their big-city driving.
I don’t see what this comment has to do with the shitpost/video but OK.
In case you wanna see a “RETTUNGSGASSE!!!” (= rescuing lane) in action this clip is what it looks like ideally. If traffic slows down for whatever reason or if there are sirens in the distance drivers are supposed to assume this formation pre-emptively and misusing it is a crime.
That’s how it’s supposed to work in the US too. Maybe it depends on the state but in MN at least it’s illegal to fail to pull over for emergency vehicles. If you see any emergency vehicle on the road running with lights on then you are supposed to stop and pull off to the side so that they can have the whole road.
The video in the OP looks nuts to me too. I’ve never seen people fail to pull over for an emergency vehicle in my area.
This is how it is in Manhattan when it’s busy. It’s not so much failing to pull over so much as there is nowhere to go.
This is a very NYC phenomenon, everywhere else I’ve ever been and lived in the US moves out of the way for emergency vehicles with their lights and sirens on, I’ve seen both issues where there is nowhere to go and times where people just don’t care, every time I’m in NYC I hope to not need medical attention
So I actually experienced one of these on 64W between VA Beach and Richmond. It was amazing how everyone including myself just instinctively moved to the sides of the road. It’s not a hard concept it just takes cooperation.
Also space to pull over is important. Here in the midwest we have room to move over and everyone does, honestly way more than is necessary. Like people start to pull over a few blocks in front of the ambulance if they just hear the siren.
New York’s problem in the video is the congestion makes it hard to move out of the way when there is nowhere to go.
What I find strange in Germany is that there is literally an emergency lane on the right side of the highway but they block it to make a corridor in the center
That’s the “Standstreifen” and it’s used for towing, parking after an accident or other emergency and as an extra lane during traffic jams and road work. That’s too many use cases to make them also suitable for emergency vehicles.
Ah ok I didn’t know, where I live you can’t use it for towing or as an extra lane (wpu get fined if you do that)
Not everyone can use it for towing and it only doubles as an extra lane when the road signs say so but my point is emergency services can’t rely on it being available.
Yeah it’s understandable, here is just the occasional accident or some roadworks but those will be signalised in advance
At about 10 seconds on the video you can actually see a guy getting out of the way of the ambulance to let it through, though he was not doing it preemptively and the guy ahead of him couldn’t care less.
I’m not an American but I’ve lived in Washington for years. Every time an Ambulance is moving with its siren on, people move to the side of the road to let it pass. This guy is just inaccurate.
Manhattan has gridlock that prevents this. There’s no space to move into.
yup, I was on a street so narrow just a couple months ago that I couldn’t pull over far enough to let a firetruck go by. I had pulled over as far as I could. The truck got behind me and I couldn’t move over. SO I just said “fuck it” - and zoomed into the road as fast as was safe and turned off the road the first place I could find.
He clipped the video as someone was moving out of the way
But surely this one example is enough to judge an entire country by!
Love this. Who says the Germans have no humour.
How many Germans does it take to change a lightbulb?
One.
They’re efficient and have no sense of humor
Richtig!
Wer das liest ist doof
Deine Mutter schwitzt beim Kacken.
Don’t have to change it at all, if this is a german lightbulb.
Mostly the French
I get imense stress from having an ambulance behind me even if there’s plenty of room to pass on the side. Immediately plotting where to go if it needs to go exactly where I am.
I can’t imagine having an ambulance behind you and going ‘Meh, I’m driving here.’nyc is a crazy city
This happened to me once. It was a main road with heavy traffic. I pulled over to the right to let the ambulance pass, but because of traffic, I was effectively sitting on the right lane. Apparently the ambulance wanted to move to the right lane because they were gonna turn right at the corner up ahead. I felt like an asshole because to everyone else on the road, it looked like I intentionally blocked the ambulance. And the siren blaring right behind you while the driver is blasting the horn is very stressful.
Ayyyy I’m driving here
If the ambulance is immediately behind you, you’ve already failed.
In “we’ll-behaving” countries ambulance does not lose speed. If you hear a siren, you pull over, doesn’t matter if you see it or not.
I’m not directing this at you, just explaning the course of action for people like in the video.
It’s German John Cena.
John Zena
*Johann
I speak perfect english but still use „ja”, ja?
Ja.
Ja.
Eh?
Tak.
how else would we know he’s German
Das ist der WegThis is the way, ja?
Ja sonst ist es nicht authentisch genug. Aber war schon witzig.
I assumed it was some weird YouTube thing he was doing. None of my German friends use that haha.
Wenn die Polizei vorbei fährt, ja! (ja)
dann halt ich erst mal an, ja! (ja)
Nobody more annoying than a German tourist bitching about everything
Edit:
ITT Americans hate being called out for their bullshit, unless it’s by Germans 🤔
There might be somebody… ☝🏼
Yeah, but do you know what their mum says about them?
I’d say waiting for an ambulance while a loved one dies in front of you just because assholes wouldn’t get out of the way is more annoying. No doubt followed by some health insurance bullshit that makes zero sense in any other country. But no, it’s the tourist who’s wrong.
Ja.
You’re fucked ja
Oopsie whoopsie.
He’s just demonstrating New York City is fucked, not America
Yes this is a NY City thing. Everywhere else we all move out of the way.
But fuck it, US deserves some negative propaganda, so have at it!
Absolutely every second for an ambulance matters. Every. Second.
People blocking an ambulance should be punished and made examples of.
Nobody is blocking the ambulance here, there’s literally nowhere to go. Have you never been to a real city before?
I live in Atlanta. One of the slowest most congested city’s in America. We hold record to the slowest intersection in the country. In the smallest worst parts of the city we get out of the way for emergency vehicles.
Have you ever been to a real city?
There was plenty of space in the video to move the car out of the way. Maybe you would need to stop for a minute because you’re parking close to the curb/car but more than enough for the ambulance to pass
America is a bit bigger than your NY road…
Is all the same tho. All of the US is full of carbrainrot.
This is beyond car brain. This is the increasing amount of people simply not giving a shit about the social contract over the years coupled with cops not doing their actual jobs in favor whatever it is they do (sitting in their cars fucking around in their phones and harassing minorities?)
But you see the lack of concern for the social contract in many other aspects of american life. Asking people to wear a paper mask during a pandemic was probably the most notable recent non car example. We all know how that went. In other cultures it’s a regular practice; you simply do it as a courtesy when you have recently had a cold. In A america during a pandemic 30-40% of the population revealed themselves to be utterly pathetic toddlers that can’t handle being asked to do something by a perceived authority figure or slightly inconvenienced.
This isn’t cars this is people and their culture.
I am from the UK, a large city too, and we have lots of cars and incredibly busy roads where it’s standstill a lot, but cars will move out of the way for emergency vehicles, you’ll drive on the kerb if you have to.
Edit: We also have paramedics on motorcycles and bicycles so that they can get there even faster if traffic is an issue. Or in city centres.
There is no curb on many of these streets to go onto, there are bollards to protect pedestrians preventing that.
Its a design problem combined with a congestion problem, that was the reason for the congestion relief toll.
That’s a good point and a spelling correction to boot 😂.
I did add an edit that we also have bicycles / motorcycles with paramedics if speed is of the essence and traffic is poor.
I also realise that Deansgate In Manchester City centre has now got those bollards too, but we have severely limited the cars that are allowed into the city centre and I must say it’s a lot more pleasant walking around and I say that as someone that used to drive through the city centre myself on the way home from work.
Edit: I took a picture. This is slap bang in the city centre and traffic is minimal.
Time of day 14:02
I live 2 hours away from NYC and that’s also the case here
If you accept this one anecdote of an ambulance being stuck in NY, then you have to accept my anecdote that everyone in the PNW moves over to let ambulances through no problem.
It’s not all the same.
I accept that 100%. I’ve seen a decent bit the US and it’s such an enormous lump of land with so many different people and cultures that anyone trying to lump them together into some homogenous mass is off their rocker.
Sure you can travel an hour on a train in Europe and be in a totally different world culturally. The distance for those changes is bigger in the US but holy moly do they exist.
Where I live, if a person on the crosswalk doesn’t move out the way of an ambulance, it goes on the national news lol.
I mean hes got a point though. Its clear these people care more about their destination. Im from NY ive seen this plenty elsewhere, in many states. heck even seen it in canada. People just suck sometimes.
Eh, feels like he’s playing up the stereotype of the eternal German.
"…WE DON’T DO ZIS IN GERMANY! YOU BUILD HOUSES WITH WOOD? WE DON’T DO ZIS IN GERMANY. YOU DON’T SEPARATE GLASS FROM RECYCLING? BUT WE DO ZIS IN GERMANY!!!
I’m allowed to say that, I’m German myself. We are obnoxious and tone-deaf fuckers.
There’s tone deaf and there’s common sense, life saving practices.
This. I absolutely prefer to be a tone-deaf fucker among tone-deaf fuckers if that means my ambulance arrives timely after someone tried car buttsex at 260 kmh. (162 mph)
What, speed limits? Don’t you dare touch my freedom.
It’s Manhattan you’re not getting above 26 let alone 260. 2.6 is a good day.
Could just be they talk so damn loud they can’t hear anyone else.
Agreed
In the video right after he says nobody moves out of the way there is someone moving out of the way but he edited the video to remove it.
Disingenuous bullshit.
I’m amazed you could see that since he edited it out of the video so you couldn’t see it.
It’s literally the thumbnail, fella
Someone moving out of the way still doesn’t equal everyone moving out of the way. He’s way ahead of them at the end of the video. The point still stands.
Ok then why is the ambulance not passing on the left?
