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daycare costs $2k a month? are they training the kids to be astronauts?
No, just extracting the maximum possible amount of profit, it’s the American way. And 2k is the low end.
wild. you’d think as a capitalist country that wants to maximize workforce for cheap labor people would be more incentivized to procreate. yet you have insane costs to childbirth alone, no parental leave for either parent (or a pathetic amount on state level), no child support… and this on top.
Same problem as ever. Short term gain vs long term growth.
$2k gets you Jimmy “Boots” McClusky, on day release from the work farm.
To be honest, childcare is expensive. You can only have so many kids per worker, you need to pay rent for a big space, utilities, etc. In a big city it adds up fast. I’m sure some of it goes to some CEO’s Yacht, but even at cost it would be expensive.
The reason it’s free/cheap in Europe is because it’s subsidized from taxes. Same as universities and Healthcare.
well, yeah. it should be subsidized; that’s kinda my point. it’s public welfare.
Wages have not kept up with productivity and GDP increases since the 1970s.
How about making single income middle class families possible again, so you can have one stay at home parent.
Ironically, thats the exact idea behind the whole trade war thing. It has lead to TSMC already accelerating their plans to expand the Arizona microchip fabrication lab, which means… Factory jobs, the thing we used to have in the 70’s.
That’s not going to solve anything because it’s going to make products more expensive, which is the ‘exact idea.’
Enrich American oligarchs instead of those abroad that might be giving us a better deal.
The problem is they are not moving the 500+ factories that feed that lab. They are not moving the over 100 raw mineral resources supply chains.
They are just moving the last few steps to the US.
They are doing this ass backwards.
US economic output is more than adequate to achieve this already, but we choose instead to concentrate the benefits in the hands of a few.
Regarding tarrifs bringing back manufacturing: https://www.kcl.ac.uk/trumps-tariffs-what-is-behind-them-and-will-they-work “but this is very unlikely to work. Manufacturing has changed, with production now spread across multiple countries in so-called ‘global value chains’. Moving whole supply chains back to the US is going to be prohibitively expensive, result in rising consumer prices and make US-produced goods internationally uncompetitive. The model of manufacturing that underpins Trump’s approach simply hasn’t existed for the best part of 40 years, and is not coming back.”
When last could a family in America raise two kids, have a stay at home parent, buy a house send them to college and still save for retirement on a single teachers salary. Most of the Abby boomers had that.
$5,000 will easily cover diapers, food (even if not breastfeeding), clothes, etc. for a year and more.
We can play with adding other costs, but kids can be way cheaper than paying “retail”. FFS, toys, cribs, car carriers, all that shit is free, all day long. What we did pay for amounted to change, and then we sold it for change or donated it.
People have a kid, acquire all that stuff, and in a very short window suddenly have no use for it. You just about can’t give it away. LOL, how many babies can wear the same one-piece until it’s worn out? 10?! Our landlord’s wife worked a charity for baby stuff. Gave us tons of goods, we gave it back.
You’re delusional if you think the average person spends $5,000 for the first year of their newborns life. Ask any new parent, or Google it. The average cost of a baby’s first year can range from $16,905 to $28,166, depending on factors like location, income, and lifestyle. The main cost drivers are diapers, clothes, food, child care, and health insurance.
The image post specifically stated diapers and clothing.
The post also specifically said 5k ain’t shit, and I think that was the actual point.
It costs about 300k USD median to raise a kid from birth to 18. By no measure is 5k enough for a year of anything in that period.
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They just cut head start, slashed medicade(51% of us babies are born on this program), no medicade no pediatric care for your baby either, cut hud, slashed the department of education, blocked student loan forgiveness, are dismantling the aca preventative care mandate, gutting worker protections, canceling child labor laws, laid off 275,000 workers and destroyed their livelihood and tanked the economy ……yea the birth rate is going to plummet. 5k lol doesn’t even cover a fraction of the utter devastation coming to American families from these moronic policies. Who in their right mind would want to bring a child into this racist sexist tech bro oligarchy?
yea the birth rate is going to plummet.
I’m not so sure. Impoverished countries have the highest birth rates. I can imagine the logic of the wealthy 0.001% being “if we make the rest of the country as broke as Somalia, the birth rate will also be as high as Somalia.”
But that is a lot of complicated words, 5k is much easier to make a headline about, and re-elect the same people.
The Headstart cut hurts a lot. I know people that gone to that when they were little and had nothing but good things to say.
And all to fund tax cuts for the wealthy - who don’t need them.
Are you saying the game of achieving highscores for world’s richest person with ever higher numbers isn’t important? /s
It won’t even cover the cost of giving birth. This is some real “how much could a banana cost” energy.
Also, the cost of giving birth will magically jump up by $5,000 as soon as this passes. It was never a function of how much it cost to actually provide that service.
$8000 if the mother wants to hold her baby after birth
And you wanna take that baby home? Well there’s a few for that.
Putin did the same thing, he aware 16k equivalent for having 10+ children .
This is such a classic fascist play, get your bingo cards out ladies
Nobody can afford health care and they want us in the office no remote work making it even more difficult. It’s almost like they want to run us all into the ground while they sit on gold toilets and enrich themselves beyond all measure of reason. Oh and they’re building bunkers in New Zealand, the billionares pulling the strings so when they get us into a nuclear war you won’t hear from them again.
The type of person who would think 5k for having a kid is a great deal is exactly the type of person conservatives would bitch about having kids and leeching all the other government resources.
Coincidentally, it’s also the exact type of person conservatives want having kids. They make up the majority of prison labor, military fodder, and wage slaves.
This is a great summary of exactly why I won’t have kids. I don’t want to spend all my waking hours working so a billionaire can afford a private island.
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Idk, it seems like US doesn’t even have the basic shit going on, any of that is a good news.
Additionally, government supplemented/paid for day care is the only way to pay the teachers fairly. Given places often aim for 4 students:1 teacher, you already have a hard cap of 4*monthly fees for salary for that one teacher. I pay 1.2k/ month, so a teacher can get a max of 4.8k/month if EVERYTHING went to them, which we all know it doesn’t due to taxes, administrative staff, utilities, facility fees, etc.
However, if they raise fees, they price people out of a much-needed service at a time when folks typically haven’t reached their max earning potential yet.
And folks wonder why parents these days are so old. Earning potential to afford daycare in the first place.
$5,000 is a lot to those braindead morons who insist that “nobody wants to work” because they’re still living comfortably off of a few $1,400 checks from half a decade ago…
They’re not making policy for people who can do math.
Trade:
- One person’s wages
For:
- Mortgage payments on a reasonably sized house
- All bills
- Food for two adults plus children
- Entertainment
Then you might see more babies.
It was their greed that caused this.
So weird. These are the same imbiciles complaining about welfare babies.
