• FlashMobOfOne
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    44 months ago

    I’m just over here annoyed at people calling the Pope’s continuing ability to live a ‘miracle’ when he’s spent the last month in a hospital keeping his ass animated with advanced medical science that his church probably condemns every Sunday.

    • Queen HawlSera
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      14 months ago

      You’d be surprised

      The Catholic Church actually accepts the reality of evolution and has its own telescope called Lucifer.

      They also recently updated their stance on “gender ideology” to no longer be critical of transpeople, citing genuine medical need for transition.

      • Count Regal Inkwell
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        4 months ago

        Yeah there is plenty to hate about Catholics too (hey, pedophilia) –

        – But when it comes to like. Accepting reality and modernity? They are head, shoulders, and pectorals above the average Evangelical Church.

  • tehWrapper
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    254 months ago

    Did I not read a while back that he lost a fair amount of speech with his recent health troubles?

  • @[email protected]
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    654 months ago

    Guy only has hours left alive, he shouldn’t be cursed to speak to an American fascist cunt.

    • @[email protected]
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      134 months ago

      Well this comment was the last thing I read before seeing he died about 7 hours ago, guess you were right

  • @[email protected]
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    4 months ago

    “I’ve only got a few hours left, I’m not talking to that pudding faced prick”

    • @[email protected]
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      14 months ago

      chances are high he also wouldn’t have been able to finish the talks in a meaningful way due to his health condition.

  • @[email protected]
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    54 months ago

    Yeah, I don’t think that’s what ghosting is. He just skipped the meeting. Ghosting would be not sending anyone.

  • @[email protected]
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    454 months ago

    The Catholic Church has never lived down its association with the last Nazis that rose to power, they aren’t making that mistake again.

    “Fuck those guys.” - current Pope.

    • lost_screwdriver
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      334 months ago

      The catholic church strongly opposed the Nazis. A lot of christians were killed by the Nazis because of this. The pope is more like: like: “Fuck, not those guys again”

      • @[email protected]
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        264 months ago

        I was gonna say, IIRC the Nazis kept trying to hide in ancient cathedrals, because they thought the allies wouldn’t bomb them. The Pope at the time told the allies to burn and bomb the Nazis out.

      • @[email protected]
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        124 months ago

        The catholic church strongly opposed the Nazis

        🤣 What??? Holy shit, lack of historical knowledge batman!

        • @[email protected]
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          124 months ago

          Would you like to refute the statement instead of just saying they don’t know what they’re talking about?

          I’ll start - Catholics were amongst (there were many) the first groups that the Nazis started targeting. It’s not a coincidence that the intellectuals, the Jews, the Catholics, etc. were also the ones that had some reaallly nice silverware that would look great in the Fuhrer’s country home. If nothing else, Catholics would be acting in their self-interest to oppose the Nazis.

          • AFK BRB Chocolate
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            114 months ago

            It’s less black and white than either of you guys are implying. You’re taking about Pope Pius XII, who was Pope from 1939 to 1958. He’s credited with saving hundreds of thousands of Jews through various means, including support to the resistance, but also by showing some had been converted/baptized, which in itself was controversial. But he also feared the Nazis were going to win the war and that the church would have to exist in a Nazi world. He never clearly spoke out against the holocaust, and though a lot of the things he said, including his sermons, can be taken as condemnation of Jewish persecution, the language was pretty subtle. Also, Hitler had an envoy secretly meeting with Pius from pretty early on, which many say was bad in itself. Still, he also helped the allies with intelligence, to the point where Hitler accused him of espionage and had plans to kidnap him.

            • @[email protected]
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              24 months ago

              That’s really interesting, thanks! I have no problem with being told I’m wrong, I do have a problem with someone just saying “lol you’re wrong” with no evidence.

              • AFK BRB Chocolate
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                14 months ago

                Oh, for sure. It’s not an area that I’m an expert in, but your conversation got me curious because I had heard both things, so I read a few articles. One of the interesting things is that the bit about Hitler’s envoy wasn’t broadly known until 2020 when the Vatican released a whole mess of documents that had been kept hidden previously. So there’s maybe more reason for some people to have one impression based on what they grew up hearing, and others to have a different one based on more recent info, but even with the new info it seems nuanced.

                It’s easy to fault anyone who didn’t take a clear stand against Hitler from this vantage point, but it must have been hard to be a world leader facing the possibility that Hitler would be successful and you’d have to deal with his empire. Pius XII supported the allies and it’s obvious he was against Hitler, but he was reluctant to be overtly vocal about it, and he even entertained the envoy, which maybe he saw as hedging his bets (we can’t know exactly what he was thinking). It’s for sure stained his legacy.

  • @[email protected]
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    154 months ago

    Lol. You’re only allowed to be that bad of a catholic if you were born one or at least have been one for a decade or two. Recent converts realizing catholicism isn’t the aesthetic is funny