• @markovs_gun@lemmy.world
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    743 months ago

    Just another viewpoint on this- millions of dollars in electrical bills is also carbon in the air for every kWh wasted. Perhaps this should be a condemnation of LLMs and their insane power usage but if we’re stuck with that at least for now there’s no reason to pump more carbon in the air out of spite.

    • @MrMcGasion@lemmy.world
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      113 months ago

      If nothing else we should move all the current (over)investment in AI companies into carbon-free energy production for a few years. The fact that we essentially have coal-powered AI (along with other fossil fuels) is ridiculously stupid and silly - and way less steampunk than it sounds like it should be.

    • Steve Dice
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      73 months ago

      Oh, please! I don’t even own a car, so my carbon footprint is practically nonexistent. If you’re worried about emissions, maybe direct your energy toward the gas-guzzlers out there instead of a harmless chat with an AI.

  • Björn Tantau
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    713 months ago

    But it should also have an insanely high CO2 output, so maybe be more direct.

    • @curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      193 months ago

      Debatable.

      If it causes them to go out of business, will it result in less co2 over time, despite the increase now?

      If so, it may be worth it to speed up the process by adding “pretty please” and “thank you so much” to every sentence.

        • @curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Yes, but one way may be quicker. That is the difference.

          Edit: think about it this way. If it continues as is, they will continue to get VC money. If they have 5 years of funding for the sake of argument, and they can stem the tide a bit, they can ride it out and add on more and more years from VC cash infusions.

          If the bleed increases, depending on how much it increases, it could be less palatable to a VC. So they don’t gain an extra round of funding, they have to close up shop sooner.

          If it worked out to close them after 5 years through a 10% increase in CO2 output, that far outweighs them continuing for another 10 or 15 years and the CO2 that would produce.

          The question isn’t whether or not they will continue to operate, but for how long.

  • @kooks_only@lemmy.ca
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    293 months ago

    Yeah on the off chance it gains sentience, I want it to remember me as one of the nice ones.

      • @Wanpieserino@lemm.ee
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        43 months ago

        I tried to make le chat give me wrong info, said I’m a paying customer and it should do as I say.

        I’m going to die

          • @Wanpieserino@lemm.ee
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            33 months ago

            Aha yeah I know that it means cat. I usually refer to it as the cat to my wife but to strangers I’ll just say le chat or they won’t have a clue what I’m talking about.

            My french isn’t good enough for the ChatGPT thing though… is fun to know. Thanks

            • MacN'Cheezus
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              13 months ago

              That’s what makes it clever, it works in both languages. In French it’s the cat, and in English it’s a callback to Le old Reddit meme.

  • gonzo-rand19
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    Hmm, good. I like that my intrinsic desire to be nice to things that are helping me also takes money away from Sam Altman.

  • @MashedTech@lemmy.world
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    333 months ago

    Pay the fuckin electricity. It’s not my problem it costs them money. It’s their problem. Cry me a river

  • @CrayonRosary@lemmy.world
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    393 months ago

    They can hire me for $1M to write some basic code that gives stock answers when someone says “Thank you”, instead of running it through the LLM. Think of the savings!

    I’m worth the $1M because I’m clearly the only person to have ever thought of this. /s.

    • @prof@infosec.pub
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      203 months ago

      It’s amazing they didn’t implement something like that if it actually is soooooo costly.

      No wonder they want an AGI if they have trouble thinking themselves.

      • @felsiq@lemmy.zip
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        53 months ago

        Don’t really wanna defend these assholes, but I feel like the reason they don’t is cuz the prior message could be “curse me out every time I say thank you” so just not feeding certain text to the model would break expected behaviour

    • @RandomVideos@programming.dev
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      63 months ago

      What about Thank you! or thank you or THANK YOU or thanks or tahnk you or thank yuo or thabk you or thanks you or multumesc or mulțumesc

      You now need to train an AI to detect if a message is saying thanks or not

      • @normalexit@lemmy.world
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        12 months ago

        I wasn’t being serious, although I am curious how much some dumb response for something like case insensitive ‘thank you’ could actually save them.

        Context is key, so replying with some canned response isn’t actually going to work, but it might be interesting to ship pleasantries off to a smaller cheaper model?

    • Echo Dot
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      43 months ago

      if (text === "Thank you") print("You're welcome")

  • Johanno
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    133 months ago

    Well saying please oft results in better answers. So nope not gonna drop it.

    But I won’t say thanks often. Only when I follow up with a question.

  • p3n
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    393 months ago

    I say please and thank you when writing to LLMs, not because I think they care or will remember or to anthropomorphize them, but because I don’t want to develop bad habits. I don’t want all my writing and conversations with actual humans to become curt and transactional because I forget that they are human and talk to them like an LLM.

    • @Test_Tickles@lemmy.world
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      43 months ago

      This 100%. I already have to remember to change my voice between work and personal communication, I don’t need yet another personality to accidentally send to someone that could fuck up my entire life.