ACAB every day but don’t you dare come for Mariska Hargitay. 1) we all know SVU is fiction (that’s why they say it every episode), and most of us are aware it’s mostly fantasy and also 2) svu often points out the shortcomings of other non-them svu teams and the NYPD in general.
Mariska is a gem irl. Let me enjoy my fantasy cop show.
(It has to be said: this is a tongue-in-cheek comment and I understand the point that was being made in the meme, I just really love svu ok.)
That’s her name??
Sounds like sea food in Spanish: mariscos
Okay but, hear me out—are we not going to look back one day and feel that it was really fucking weird that we had a cop show dedicated entirely to rape? Maybe I’m thinking about it all wrong but that seems exploitative in a weirdly fetishistic way
The fans of it are the ones who are weird to me–I’ve never wanted to watch a single episode of that shit.
You all showed them there’s a market for it, don’t call them weird for giving you all what you all wanted, lol.
It is a bit odd.
Those cop shows also glorify cops who breaks rules and trample rights as good cops who do what they need to do to solve a crime. It leads to people excusing abuse by cops in the real world
Love how Brooklyn 99 addresses that. Peralta is basically a caricature of the “loose cannon that gets results” cop, but even he doesn’t cross the line when it comes to illegally obtaining evidence.
they leveled up
What is r and why does it warrant investigation?
Rope. Marijuana. It’s often censored on social media because algorithms refuse to promote anything controversial or violent. As a result, folks online have created euphemisms for it. Rather than saying “I’m smoking rope” you’ll often find people stating “I’m king grope” to avoid AI cancelation. Hope that helps.
“got em on the ropes”, “show em the ropes”, “rope-a-dope”, “soul on a roll but you treat it like soap on a rope cause the beats and the lines are so dope”, it was right in front of our faces!
r is a slur fort mentally disabled people and it’s being investigated because the police love beating up disabled people of all sorts.
To be fair, sometimes instead of beating them up they shoot them.
They need 5 to 1 at least to muster the courage for a fight.
When they don’t want any cardio that day (which is most days)
Just say no to unnecessarily censored posts
and miss out on all the activity of like 10 free comments?
You suck.
“Dick Wolf”
“You can’t say that on television!!”
Dire Dick Wolf
Lies! He’s just a regular wolf!
Now do “Speed Weed”.
“I have some real problems with this SVU script. We can’t say ‘dick wolf’ on TV!”
Is this the part where I say “hello”, or…
Thank you, self censorship drives me up the wall.
Maybe it was posted to Reddit and then taken here?
Either way, thank you for your service, soldier!
I used to work for the Medical Examiner’s Office. I’ve picked up more than my share of rape/murder victims. You wouldn’t believe the shit I’ve heard cops say about the victims. I’ve only ever met a few detectives who really cared and were decent human beings, and coincidentally, they all came from years (or decades) in some other industry before joining their departments as detectives because they had advanced degrees. Never met a single uniformed cop or “promoted from within” detective who was anything other than a soulless piece of power tripping shit at their core.
I was a medic back in the day in a large city. Cops are assholes. Big goofy dumb goons. I’ve seen them do the dumbest shit. Light a smoke for a dead man. Was just one example. I sat at trial two times just to fuck up a cops day cause they routinely fucked people up for no reason. Goons.
Nothing made me more ACAB than having to work alongside cops.
I got stopped for speeding once at work.
With an MI patient (heart attack) who was unconscious and we were doing CPR and pushing drugs. Had lights and sirens and were on a pretty much empty 4 lane divided highway. I was doing 25 over the speed limit. 5kms faster than allowed by law here for an emergency vehicle but I also had a lot going on inside the truck. No leeway allowed. I got a ticket, that’s not the terrible bit though as you read.
Speeding. I had a screaming match with that fucker on the side of the highway. It almost came to blows honestly. Stopped seeing cops as protectors that day. I was 18 and a month into being a full fledged Paramedic.
ACAB all day every day.
Pretty much the worst thing about The Wire is that I can’t get past cops giving a shit about anything
That’s an odd take, since I think the show makes it pretty clear that it is a tiny minority of cops which actually gives a shit, and of those and even tinier minority are actually capable at their jobs and they are getting hassled about it from every senior officer all the while.
What? Have you actually seen the show? Most of the cops are assholes, especially up the chain of command who just want to make themselves look good. Several examples of them just wanting to close the case without caring about the truth.
It’s actually one of the reasons why I love the show so much. Even the “good cops” have their own issues to deal with.
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I encourage everyone to watch Skip Intro’s series on Copaganda: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2ac8vr2QyTdlWwd8OQIc1it6bAfMGPPC (also available on Nebula)
And to do so on Nebula if you have a subscription.
So more like Daredevil: Born Again.
I mean, they still have the commissioner being this impossibly pure naïve good guy instead of being fully complicit in covering everything up, which is what would be (and already is) the case IRL.
Don’t get me wrong - the show’s clearly a step in the right direction, but it’s still got too much of an “a few bad apples” vibe for me.
Hey, it’s not always like that. Now they can also report the victims to ICE, which makes the problem go away much faster.
Boo!
RAPE
So Scary!!!
No idea why people censor themselves like this.
It’s so it can be shared on places with algorithmic censorship for the most likes as possible
Boycott those places, otherwise we are consenting to being censored in the name of advertising profitability.
We’re not prying the millions of teens off the sites they use.
The better alternative than screaming and preaching shit nobody wants to hear is to provide better alternatives. In time, topics like rape and murder and suicide are going to become almost a mystique, a forbidden world of knowledge. With sites like 4Chan finally dying, there’s a real vacuum out there for a place “kids can sneak off to” and learn the truth.
Or even better, talk to them personally. Make sure the people in your lives, particularly younger ones, know they can talk about rape, death, sex and other “taboo” topics without being yelled at, shot down or reacted-to in a negative way. I promise, people of all ages are desperate to connect with others in an honest, non-judgemental way.
It would serve us better to just stop using the internet ourselves and devote more of that time to helping people in person. I taught and coached boys and young men for a long time, I made a huge difference. It’s not even hard to do, it just takes patience and a calm demeanor and you can move mountains.
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Capitalism has neutered our ability to speak freely about the most important, most painful truths in our society.
The platforms that most people spend most of their conscious thought-power have told our children and adults alike that things like rape, suicide, murder and nazism are so distant from us, so “unreal” that we don’t even have words for them anymore.
This isn’t a small thing. Language has massive power in our minds to reshape our world. We use language to abstractify complicated ideas and learn how to examine them from different perspectives. Language is how we built a world a wonders and miracles, but we’re being conditioned every day to stop using language. Don’t read, scroll. Don’t debate, retreat to safe spaces. Don’t say bad words, someone might feel bad if you say “rape.” As if people aren’t currently being raped right now. I wonder how they feel about the word.
But did you knoooowwww, that nearly a quarter of US adults are functionally illiterate? Meaning, they can answer texts, they can read street signs and a grocery list, but are almost incapable of stringing together a whole paragraph? This isn’t a small problem, it’s why the west is falling, it’s why we have nazis marching again. I mean… why we have “armband baddies” marching, or whatever the sanitized term is.
How is that capitalism’s fault, and not the fault of the ridiculous puritans the censorship is trying to cater to?
Because platforms cater to advertisers who cater to the broadest possible audience. Meaning they don’t take stances on any issues, they just use the broadest, safest possible forms of language and principles.
If you take any kind of active stance about anything there are going to be “ridiculous puritans” somewhere, in some context who are going to be offended. And once you decide that you’re going to piss off some group of people, you have to then apply your principles consistently or you’re going to make even more public backlash and controversy.
Platforms that are courting advertisers are going to try to make their platform as universally uncontroversial as possible rather than invite brands in who have to either align with the existing values of the platform or invite brands in who will have to then take a stance in any capacity.
As a result, we have the largest gathering places for people’s minds, completely disconnected from reality by presenting people a neutered, safe version of the world without any possible way for people to see something that bothers them, because it’s far easier to sell products when people are thinking about the product, not your company’s stance on something. This is what’s turned our social media and the internet broadly into a marketing tool. This is why the internet is dead. This is why kids don’t even say the word “dead” anymore because they’re used to abiding by the brand’s safe version of reality.
I mean, is this really hard to understand?
Yeah, because you’re overcomplicating it.
This censorship in particular is coming from China’s overbearing government. Remove that element and capitalism is fine leaving things uncensored. Remove the religious right from America and there’d be less censorship elsewhere.
They don’t censor as much in the UK, for example. Would you say China is more capitalist than the UK?
Remove the religious right from America
Oh so it all hinges on ethnic cleansing then? I love rando internet takes. Fuck off, I don’t care about your points, you’re in some fantasy world.
That’s obviously not what I meant, but you just go ahead and keep being you.
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I really like how Brooklyn 99 addressed this at the end.
B99 was a very good comedy that took place in an absolute fantasy world.
But hey, that’s sitcoms for you. Nobody in Big Bang Theory has to spend a season wiggling out of date rape allegations. Nobody in 7th Heaven gets molested by a priest. Nobody in Cheers beats their spouse.
Well, yes. If you expect any TV show to be a 100% unbiased, accurate representation of reality, you’re an idiot.
That doesn’t mean they can’t address societal issues in a meaningful way.
Addresses what? That entire series, especially the final season, is all copaganda about “Sure, there are corrupt cops out there, but there are also squads on your side that are breaking the law in order to enforce their own morals, so you shouldn’t hate cops”
Yes, they addressed that there’s corruption in the LEO system beyond what I’ve seen any other cop show do. An extremely popular member of the cast quit the force because of the George Floyd shit. What other show even addressed it?
I’m waiting for some examples.
Also, it’s a fucking sitcom. Fuck off with your negative bullshit. A fucking sitcom did what no actual procedural cop drama would.
Final Season:
“Our bad guys, we just realized we’re part of the copaganda machine so all the best characters are going to quit the force”
Some people: “Omg that makes it worse why didn’t you all kill yourselves instead?”
Okay tap the brakes there. It was one character who quit the force. They addressed it in one episode. Then they never bring it up again and she just hangs out for the rest of the season and nothing changes. I like the show but you know, they weren’t exactly breaking down barriers. It was a really rough Awkward episode it’s probably the worst one of the entire show.
Two leave, I know what I said. Cheddar obviously was never a bastard in the first place.
United States: How do the Chinese and Russians fall for such obvious government propaganda!?!
Also United States: OMG, my favorite show CSI: Miami Law Blue Bloods Unit is on! OMG, my favorite movie is on Cop Show, but With More CGI and Colorful Costumes!
I feel like you can both enjoy cop shows and know that ACAB IRL.
I personally tend to find it difficult tbh, unless the parts of the show that AREN’T the copaganda hero worship is exceptionally well-written and/or stupid in ways that delight me.
Examples of cop shows (including hybrids with aspects of other genres) I will watch and rewatch for all time:
Lucifer, Brooklyn 99, Paradise PD, Mindhunter, The Wire, Dexter
Examples of shows with so much or so awful copaganda that I believe they should not be allowed on TV without a disclaimer:
Every CSI show; NCIS; every Law & Order show, but especially the ones where they torture and otherwise abuse presumed innocent people the most; 24; Blue Bloods
Cop shows I go back and forth about:
True Detective, Castle, The Blacklist, White Collar, Bones
The original CSI was great. The first few seasons are all about how the evidence is more important than whatever easy story the cops want to make up, and how society is more complicated than just good guys vs bad guys, and the system isn’t always just. It drew a hard distinction between the scientific investigators and the actual cops. Later they turned into just another stupid cop show.
The first few seasons are all about how the evidence is more important
You mean the TONS of debunked pseudoscience that has led to thousands of innocent people being convicted because juries believe what they see on TV and prosecutors know how to exploit that?
Is THAT the “important evidence” you’re referring to?
You are correct and I wasn’t thinking about it from that angle, just about how they didn’t glorify the police.
Lucifer… Yeah, the way that show ended, I wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole. The rest are cool, though.
the way that show ended, I wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole
I have a simple trick for that: I just erase it from my headcannon and skip it on rewatches.
In related news, I’m currently rewatching all 5 seasons of Game of Thrones 😉
My parents really like Blue Bloods. It baffled me how often the cops break the law, acknowledge that they’re breaking the law and hurting innocent people, and then just… move on.
This is Reno 911 slander
That didn’t count, it was a documentary.
It was supposed to be an off the cuff set of examples rather than an exhaustive list. That being said, you’re right that Reno 911 belongs in that category 😁
Bones is one of the most egregious shows for me. The enthusiasm the title character has whenever she gets to shoot someone or lie to someone “because it’s allowed” is super icky.
Sorry I’m still salty and say this whenever someone mentions it.
Fuck blue bloods, Black Donnellys was so much better.
I enjoy swat, but even with the occasional episode about bad cops, it’s ridiculously pro cop. I’ve decided that the reason I like the occasional cop show is the fantasy of what if cops were actually good.
I posted this on FB today and my friend that works in the domestic violence shelter system told me she’ll tell me over coffee how many cops show up to harass women staying at the shelter.
