• @[email protected]
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    They can even have gang tattoos and still don’t get sent to the work camps.

    1312! Fuck the police

    • @[email protected]
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      38 days ago

      The thin blue line flag is a gang sign. Also, police are necessary and (a lot of the time) earn their pay. We could go a long way in training them better and holding them to higher standards though. Let’s start with not treating ID like crack, not escalating, using unnecessary violence, and actually respecting citizens’ constitutional rights etc. Let’s start with the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th but not forget all of the rest of them. Authoritarianism is cancer regardless of who is in power.

  • @[email protected]
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    529 days ago

    Those cop shows also glorify cops who breaks rules and trample rights as good cops who do what they need to do to solve a crime. It leads to people excusing abuse by cops in the real world

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      199 days ago

      Love how Brooklyn 99 addresses that. Peralta is basically a caricature of the “loose cannon that gets results” cop, but even he doesn’t cross the line when it comes to illegally obtaining evidence.

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      59 days ago

      I mean, they still have the commissioner being this impossibly pure naïve good guy instead of being fully complicit in covering everything up, which is what would be (and already is) the case IRL.

      Don’t get me wrong - the show’s clearly a step in the right direction, but it’s still got too much of an “a few bad apples” vibe for me.

  • Obinice
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    Feck off, censors.

    The internet isn’t for babies, we can take words.

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    United States: How do the Chinese and Russians fall for such obvious government propaganda!?!

    Also United States: OMG, my favorite show CSI: Miami Law Blue Bloods Unit is on! OMG, my favorite movie is on Cop Show, but With More CGI and Colorful Costumes!

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        I personally tend to find it difficult tbh, unless the parts of the show that AREN’T the copaganda hero worship is exceptionally well-written and/or stupid in ways that delight me.

        Examples of cop shows (including hybrids with aspects of other genres) I will watch and rewatch for all time:

        Lucifer, Brooklyn 99, Paradise PD, Mindhunter, The Wire, Dexter

        Examples of shows with so much or so awful copaganda that I believe they should not be allowed on TV without a disclaimer:

        Every CSI show; NCIS; every Law & Order show, but especially the ones where they torture and otherwise abuse presumed innocent people the most; 24; Blue Bloods

        Cop shows I go back and forth about:

        True Detective, Castle, The Blacklist, White Collar, Bones

          • @[email protected]
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            28 days ago

            It was supposed to be an off the cuff set of examples rather than an exhaustive list. That being said, you’re right that Reno 911 belongs in that category 😁

        • @[email protected]
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          59 days ago

          Lucifer… Yeah, the way that show ended, I wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole. The rest are cool, though.

          • @[email protected]
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            68 days ago

            the way that show ended, I wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole

            I have a simple trick for that: I just erase it from my headcannon and skip it on rewatches.

            In related news, I’m currently rewatching all 5 seasons of Game of Thrones 😉

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          28 days ago

          Sorry I’m still salty and say this whenever someone mentions it.

          Fuck blue bloods, Black Donnellys was so much better.

        • @[email protected]
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          38 days ago

          Bones is one of the most egregious shows for me. The enthusiasm the title character has whenever she gets to shoot someone or lie to someone “because it’s allowed” is super icky.

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          38 days ago

          The original CSI was great. The first few seasons are all about how the evidence is more important than whatever easy story the cops want to make up, and how society is more complicated than just good guys vs bad guys, and the system isn’t always just. It drew a hard distinction between the scientific investigators and the actual cops. Later they turned into just another stupid cop show.

          • @[email protected]
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            78 days ago

            The first few seasons are all about how the evidence is more important

            You mean the TONS of debunked pseudoscience that has led to thousands of innocent people being convicted because juries believe what they see on TV and prosecutors know how to exploit that?

            Is THAT the “important evidence” you’re referring to?

            • @[email protected]
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              You are correct and I wasn’t thinking about it from that angle, just about how they didn’t glorify the police.

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          99 days ago

          My parents really like Blue Bloods. It baffled me how often the cops break the law, acknowledge that they’re breaking the law and hurting innocent people, and then just… move on.

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        I enjoy swat, but even with the occasional episode about bad cops, it’s ridiculously pro cop. I’ve decided that the reason I like the occasional cop show is the fantasy of what if cops were actually good.

  • @[email protected]
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    169 days ago

    Pretty much the worst thing about The Wire is that I can’t get past cops giving a shit about anything

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      That’s an odd take, since I think the show makes it pretty clear that it is a tiny minority of cops which actually gives a shit, and of those and even tinier minority are actually capable at their jobs and they are getting hassled about it from every senior officer all the while.

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      78 days ago

      What? Have you actually seen the show? Most of the cops are assholes, especially up the chain of command who just want to make themselves look good. Several examples of them just wanting to close the case without caring about the truth.

      It’s actually one of the reasons why I love the show so much. Even the “good cops” have their own issues to deal with.

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    Then you watch “The First 48” and realize that unless someone actively snitches or the fool immediately goes to the cops “to give their side” and/or flat out confesses, cops would never “solve” crimes.

    Moral of the story: Shut the fuck up

    • @[email protected]
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      My town’s police department posts info on wanted criminals on FB and people comment on the posts basically doing the cops’ jobs for them. Every person who has been posted about has been caught. The cops here rely on the public to catch criminals and they’re shameless about it. Meanwhile they spend their time on duty harassing people who ride ebikes.

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        189 days ago

        Sounds like how the East German Stasi did things.

        If you tell me that 65% of your towns entire budget goes to “law enforcement”, I would not be surprised at all.

    • @[email protected]
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      479 days ago

      unless someone actively snitches

      Then you go to The Innocence Project and find out how many jailhouse snitches are issuing false testimony to lighten their own convictions.

    • @[email protected]
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      138 days ago

      It’s so it can be shared on places with algorithmic censorship for the most likes as possible

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        168 days ago

        Boycott those places, otherwise we are consenting to being censored in the name of advertising profitability.

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          We’re not prying the millions of teens off the sites they use.

          The better alternative than screaming and preaching shit nobody wants to hear is to provide better alternatives. In time, topics like rape and murder and suicide are going to become almost a mystique, a forbidden world of knowledge. With sites like 4Chan finally dying, there’s a real vacuum out there for a place “kids can sneak off to” and learn the truth.

          Or even better, talk to them personally. Make sure the people in your lives, particularly younger ones, know they can talk about rape, death, sex and other “taboo” topics without being yelled at, shot down or reacted-to in a negative way. I promise, people of all ages are desperate to connect with others in an honest, non-judgemental way.

          It would serve us better to just stop using the internet ourselves and devote more of that time to helping people in person. I taught and coached boys and young men for a long time, I made a huge difference. It’s not even hard to do, it just takes patience and a calm demeanor and you can move mountains.

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            That sounds like work. Why can’t I bitch about the minor annoyance of a trigger warning and a line through a word?

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      Capitalism has neutered our ability to speak freely about the most important, most painful truths in our society.

      The platforms that most people spend most of their conscious thought-power have told our children and adults alike that things like rape, suicide, murder and nazism are so distant from us, so “unreal” that we don’t even have words for them anymore.

      This isn’t a small thing. Language has massive power in our minds to reshape our world. We use language to abstractify complicated ideas and learn how to examine them from different perspectives. Language is how we built a world a wonders and miracles, but we’re being conditioned every day to stop using language. Don’t read, scroll. Don’t debate, retreat to safe spaces. Don’t say bad words, someone might feel bad if you say “rape.” As if people aren’t currently being raped right now. I wonder how they feel about the word.

      But did you knoooowwww, that nearly a quarter of US adults are functionally illiterate? Meaning, they can answer texts, they can read street signs and a grocery list, but are almost incapable of stringing together a whole paragraph? This isn’t a small problem, it’s why the west is falling, it’s why we have nazis marching again. I mean… why we have “armband baddies” marching, or whatever the sanitized term is.

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        How is that capitalism’s fault, and not the fault of the ridiculous puritans the censorship is trying to cater to?

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          Because platforms cater to advertisers who cater to the broadest possible audience. Meaning they don’t take stances on any issues, they just use the broadest, safest possible forms of language and principles.

          If you take any kind of active stance about anything there are going to be “ridiculous puritans” somewhere, in some context who are going to be offended. And once you decide that you’re going to piss off some group of people, you have to then apply your principles consistently or you’re going to make even more public backlash and controversy.

          Platforms that are courting advertisers are going to try to make their platform as universally uncontroversial as possible rather than invite brands in who have to either align with the existing values of the platform or invite brands in who will have to then take a stance in any capacity.

          As a result, we have the largest gathering places for people’s minds, completely disconnected from reality by presenting people a neutered, safe version of the world without any possible way for people to see something that bothers them, because it’s far easier to sell products when people are thinking about the product, not your company’s stance on something. This is what’s turned our social media and the internet broadly into a marketing tool. This is why the internet is dead. This is why kids don’t even say the word “dead” anymore because they’re used to abiding by the brand’s safe version of reality.

          I mean, is this really hard to understand?

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            Yeah, because you’re overcomplicating it.

            This censorship in particular is coming from China’s overbearing government. Remove that element and capitalism is fine leaving things uncensored. Remove the religious right from America and there’d be less censorship elsewhere.

            They don’t censor as much in the UK, for example. Would you say China is more capitalist than the UK?

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              Remove the religious right from America

              Oh so it all hinges on ethnic cleansing then? I love rando internet takes. Fuck off, I don’t care about your points, you’re in some fantasy world.

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    One night I walked home from work, in my work uniform, and some old guy with a personalized license plate asked me if I wanted to get coffee, at 9 pm. I was like, um no, and you’re weird, and then I went home and thought about it and decided to report it, wasn’t that long after the Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo serial killings of young girls in my city. The cop who showed up to take my statement asked me what I had been wearing, and then called me back to tell me he was just a lonely old guy looking for someone to talk to. Like who on Betty White’s green earth pulls over to try and convince a stranger to get into their car at 9 pm, a young woman many decades your junior, and thinks that’s normal? Fucking cops.

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    88 days ago

    I posted this on FB today and my friend that works in the domestic violence shelter system told me she’ll tell me over coffee how many cops show up to harass women staying at the shelter.

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      r is a slur fort mentally disabled people and it’s being investigated because the police love beating up disabled people of all sorts.

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      Rope. Marijuana. It’s often censored on social media because algorithms refuse to promote anything controversial or violent. As a result, folks online have created euphemisms for it. Rather than saying “I’m smoking rope” you’ll often find people stating “I’m king grope” to avoid AI cancelation. Hope that helps.

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        “got em on the ropes”, “show em the ropes”, “rope-a-dope”, “soul on a roll but you treat it like soap on a rope cause the beats and the lines are so dope”, it was right in front of our faces!

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    Hey, it’s not always like that. Now they can also report the victims to ICE, which makes the problem go away much faster.