All the people that thought Poilievre would not continue as the opposition leader need a wake up call. You still don’t understand what you’re fighting against. Cult of personality is a major pillar of fascism, and loyalty (to the leader, not to the country) is the most valuable trait. Poilievre had a few humiliating defeats but he’s still gaining grounds for the CPC, and the conservative wave is still on it sway, bolder and with lots of resentments piled up.
Take this seriously. The enemy doesn’t have to be smart or competent, they just need to amass power. https://www.antihate.ca/40ways
Oh wow, that link is a great resource! I had no idea it existed. Gonna share that around my circles for sure.
I didn’t expect him to voluntarily step down.
I expect the party to follow it’s own damn rules and have the leadership review that their party rules requires after a losing election.
Of course, they could still do that after he inevitably wins in one of the safest seats in the country.
What kind of calculus do you think the liberal party has done just now…. Let loser Polievre come back to show himself to be more of an obstructionist loser that he continues to be??? He’s going to block Carney’s agenda again just like they did during the last house sitting. Also Scheer is an absolute thumb head. Polievre is a coward and a hypocrite.
What kind of calculus do you think the liberal party has done just now
Carney’s response to the byelection question was basicailly “He can have his byelection if he wants. I’m too busy with more important things to waste time with silly partisan games”
Which makes sense. No need to hand the conservatives a "see the liberals are blocking democracy’ talking point.
Except everyone knows the cons will obstruct everything and blockade the work of parliament and committee work - that is who they are. I am really curious to see how the liberals under Carney combat that sort of filibustering that cons did for the past few years.
what personality does pp have? he has the charisma of roadkill
It doesn’t matter. If you look around, most authoritarian leaders have no more charisma than him. Personality just means a fabricated persona, marketing and propaganda.
hmmm I don’t know about that, idiots think tRump is a business genius and do not seem to rally around any other bigot to the same extend
PP has a 3 line resume and no accomplishments to speak of. Marketing can do wonders but they’ll have an uphill battle selling thin air
Something something safe space, something something inclusion, something something participation trophy.
@Quilotoa Hmmm political welfare program
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A chance to take another seat from them. Heck, if he loses there, too, he might even try again!
He won’t lose in battle river.
If you don’t run, you have already lost the race.
I hope he loses
I mean the other guy won by like 80%. I doubt he’s going to lose
They wanted the other guy. Voting 80% in favour for a guy only to have him tossed out by some rich prick might change some minds.
Maybe. But I bet they elect him. It’s the safest seat in the country.
Conservative minds?
If I just voted for someone and then they quit to allow someone else to run and I needed to go vote AGAIN just for some power play I would be fucking pissed. Hopefully these voters are as well.
Everyone is so mad at the cons who havent held power for a decade, meanwhile the party that won was ordering unions back to work and importing UN wage slaves to depress salaries, as they borrow money to buy half of all mortgage bonds to provide more full recourse loans to for-profit banks to extort the population during a clearly deliberate housing crisis.
I think that the capital gains tax hike Carney already rolled back was all a ploy to win the election, as was Freelands fake outrage over the massive budget overage. The party that won is just an entity that scams the population to continue to rob the poor; who knew Trudeau’s best before date was expiring, and orchestrated Trudeau’s further unpopularity in order to bring in a savior to roll it all back and promise to restore fiscal sanity. Yet everyone is here clapping about our current situation while we literally have no labor party, after the NDP likely intentionally destroyed itself via a rich lawyer in a rolex, who hasnt raised taxes on the rich a solitary dime to fund anything despite holding the entire balance of power in his hands.
Canada is screwed, we’ve been scammed again. The rich orchestrated all of this, and nothing about the Liberals plans have changed; the immigration numbers are the same as planned, the spending is the same, the entire cabinet is the same. The wealth inequality will continue to grow, and if you’re poor you’ll get to keep your unfunded dental checks while your cost of living continues to rise far more than the scraps you are given.
The most clear proof is you’ve never heard Carney talk about the housing crisis prior to the election, you’ve never heard him say a single word against forcing unions back to work, never made mention of the insane spending or negative per capita GDP growth, it was radio silence as all these terrible things happened. The most progressive thing he did was make millions promoting ESG for Brookfield to sell investments at an inflated markup, because Brookfield is an alternative investment corporation, no different than Blackrock whose fees are also significantly higher on ESG funds they promote.
I feel like Carney is basically the same as Poilievre without the misogyny and fascism. Was there anything in Poilievres costed plan that you found convincing?
I’m wouldnt be too happy about Pierre either, I only give him a 2/10 because he would slow immigration, which I think needs to match housing because I’m not a sociopath and care about more than just propping up non-per capita GDP growth.
I’m mad at both, alas the NDP or Greens didn’t campaign hard enough, and the liberals campaigned really well under the threat of Canada electing a conservative government that would threaten their sovereignty.
Thankfully, it wasn’t a majority win for the liberals. But I think you’re right that a lot of the existing problems will continue.
We can only hope that we get a labour party rebuilt from the ashes that can make some stronger plays.
Also I do want to say, Carney did mention housing crisis prior to the election and campaigning. Just so no one does a “gotcha” on you because of it. My memory is vague but it was still the same hand wavey acknowledgement the previous liberal government gave. So your technically right, just trying to get ahead of anyone else saying it.
Dude hasn’t had a real job, so having things handed to him like this is prob second nature for him.
Damn I thought this dude might actually be gone. This feels really unfair. He doesn’t give a shit about that area, so much for local representation
It’s not like he cared about the constituents of Carleton, either.
So the unemployed loser went to daddy for a handout. I want to know how much he paid the other guy for switching places.
Where’s the Rhinoceros Party when you need them? There’s no chance in hell that riding flips for the Liberals, and likely not for the NDP, but an independent running on a platform of “hear me out, this will be hilarious” just might stand a chance.
OK, Battle River - you know what to do! LOL
Okay Battle River-Crowfoot, you know what to do
It’s exceptionally blue even for Alberta but who knows? I hope the liberal candidate calls Fanjoy for tips and starts TODAY. It’s not impossible.
You can sell it as their chance to be represented in the government. Beyond the practical benefits, people like to be on the winning team.
It’s never going to make up the difference here, but it would be funny just to see him to worse than the other guy.
We‘ll definitely keep an eye on this. You never know and yea even a couple of points down will be nice to see. People who think he’ll represent their local concerns are delusional. He probably didn’t even know where the riding is.
Can’t start today. Not until the byelection is called. Carney doesn’t have to call one for 6 months. And why should he? The voters there don’t want another election so soon. They just voted someone who abandoned their post!
Well he can talk to Fanjoy today. Carney said he’ll call it immediately if they want that. I think that’s a solid move. I like that he is a no bs guy and doesn’t play games. I don’t want a bye election. I think that’s garbage but if that’s the rules …
I would even take a further-right fuckhead, be they PPC or Independent, I just want to see Poilievre lose his seat a second time
Sure. Works for me as well.
Holy shit do they not want him to lose again.
“The Conservatives handily won that riding on Monday with nearly 82 per cent of the vote.”
They picked one of the safest ridings in the country so that there’s no chance of that happening.
I assume he’s being paid off by the Conservative party somehow. Otherwise he just spent a lot of time and money to get re-elected and is now unemployed.
Would be funny if it flipped anyway
Even if it went to a hard right independent; anyone but Poilievre
Maxime Bernier is free, but he’s also probably not even popular enough to split the vote.
Not one of the safest. The safest. Not giving off confident energy.
