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Base what on? The countless stories of transgender (and cis misgendered) people being harassed in and around bathrooms?

The understanding based on real world experience that many transgender people pass as their gender, and therefore are clearly out of place in bathrooms meant for the gender that was assigned to them at birth?

The executive orders attempting to erase the recognition of transgender people entirely and require them to have the same gender listed on their passport as they did on their birth certificate? The State Department not returning or renewing passports for transgender people?

also i’m not sure if slavery and lynching are the same as being denied a bathroom.

How many times does this need to be said? How many times do majorities need to fucking hear this about minorities?

We’re not playing the “who has it worse” game because everyone loses.

In Australia, UK, nz, and I’m sure a bunch of places in Europe. Its illegal to discriminate based upon gender identity.

The rest of the rights are given to all people regardless of how they identify.

So its OK to force people to go into a bathroom that doesn’t match their identity?

How I wish everyone would just switch to “has urinals and stalls” and “only has stalls” and be done with it.

This is, to be honest, the only correct solution to the bathroom issue. Make em universal and make the stalls more private so people don’t feel as vulnerable to share bathrooms.

So where exactly did the earlier guy state that was his opinion? He got called a bigot simply immediately after calling the issue controversial, not because he said he believed the things that you claimed.

because the science is there and they keep dringing up the one study that has been wildly discredited.

Probably not 1:1 but the point is that its risky when medicine moves too quickly

Healthcare has been moving in this direction since at least… oh, that’s right, the Third Reich. It’s not moving too fast right now, it’s been moving too slow for the last century.

Mainly what concerns me right now is that people who have concerns or questions about the medicine or science are routinely harassed and/or banned from trans communities.

1. Which trans communities? There are some that are open to educating others. There are some that are not. It is absolutely not a trans person or community’s responsibility to educate you, and sometimes people want to have a space to exist without constantly justifying that existence to others. Even good faith questions can be exhausting when it’s your life that is being questioned.

2. Exactly what questions do you consider to be valid, good faith questions, presented to people or communities that are open to this discussion, and yet result in harassment?

ricecake did: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/18450729

You could do some research online about all those points if you cared enough to. It’s not my job to educate you.

But i am one of the people i was talking about

Gender dysphoria is terrible

It’s weird how we let children do all sorts of medically warranted things with parental consent under the consultation of a medical professional. It’s almost like if consent is the issue, then the entire topic is a non-issue because we’ve already got a system in place.
You don’t need to consent to other people’s children’s medical care. It’s none of your business. Fuck off you nosy bastard.

None of that, or your oft mentioned papers, have anything to do with the fact that it’s a vanishingly rare occurrence and not worth caring about. I honestly do not care if a trans woman is better at basketball or not. It’s sports, it doesn’t really matter unlike “respecting people”, which does matter.

As for 3… Has it ever happened? And what does it have to do with transgender people? Do they check your ID for gender on the way into the bathroom? What’s to stop a cis man from walking into a woman’s bathroom and doing whatever you’re afraid of without a disguise? Do you think cross dressing and a wig will make people just let the assault happen?
Do you think women will be more comfortable with a bearded man in the bathroom? Because that’s what you’re advocating for. If trans women can’t use the women’s room because a cis man might sneak it, then trans men must use the women’s room, which makes it easier for said cis man to sneak in. A cis man looks a lot more like a trans man than a cis man looks like a trans woman.

How concerned are you about making sure that police don’t get into women’s spaces and commit evil acts? The barrier to becoming a cop is lower than changing your gender, so the path of least resistance is to become a cop. You’ll probably get a paid vacation while they investigate your evil too.
And that’s not a hypothetical by the way. There are more sexual assaults by on-duty police officers than by trans persons in total, or by trans impersonators. Far more. So if you’re concerned for women’s safety, start there. Or almost anywhere else, statistically.

I would push back slightly on the term “ban”.
The US has parties pushing for a ban, which entails it becoming a punishable offense to offer the treatment to children.
As far as I’m aware, European countries have shifted standards of care in response to changing data, and De-Emphasized the treatment in favor of other avenues.

European policies are notably different from the outright bans for adolescents passed in 22 U.S. states, some of which threaten doctors with prison time or investigate parents for child abuse. The European countries will still allow gender treatments for certain adolescents and are requiring new clinical trials to study and better understand their effects.

“We haven’t banned the treatment,” said Dr. Mette Ewers Haahr, a psychiatrist who leads Denmark’s sole youth gender clinic, in Copenhagen. Effective treatments must consider human rights and patient safety, she said. “You have to weigh both.”

Although I tend to align with the American academy of pediatrics, as long as it’s a reasoned, evidence based conversation developing standards of care that are then applied by the care team working with the patient and their parents it seems appropriate to me. That leaves the standards of “good medicine” in the realm of public experts, and the specifics of treatment to the experts directly working with the person in question and let’s them make the appropriate choices and consultation.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25362284-hegseth-police-report/

https://apnews.com/article/hegseth-sex-assault-payment-trump-6674cc8cfee654c374725948e01ff666

As with all things legal in nature, he raped someone in the lay sense of the word. Legally speaking, he was accused and investigated for sexual assault, with law enforcement finding sufficient grounds to forward the case to prosecutors, who declined to press charges due to lack of sufficient evidence. He later paid the woman $50,000 not to sue in civil court.

What’s insufficient for the courts is more than enough to justify calling him a rapist, particularly since the police usually decline to refer rape cases to prosecutors at all, when they’re even reported to police in an investigative capacity.

It’s not technically impossible to fork and port lemmy-ui to piefed (the APIs are similar. Hell, you might not even need to modify the code.)

I don’t mind not having lemmy-ui if i can keep using all the other lemmy clients, personally :D

If I was going to be a transphobe

No if. You ARE a transphobe.

"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direct action;” who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a “more convenient season.”

This quote gets a lot of use, I know, but it’s because there are so many Enlightened Centrists out there keeping it relevant.

Or it’s just people like you, the “peaceful moderate,” who wishes to dictate the timeline of another person’s life and rights, who only supports moral progress as long as it’s not personally upsetting or even disrupting to you.

You do realize who absolutely vile what you just posted makes you sound, right? Like, you literally just victim blamed an entire prosecuted group for having activists that take issue with people trying to genocide the group.

No, just flights to El Salvador.

3 points :

• first of all, this disagreements just focuses on the ‘birth’ part, which is not the main part of my original statement. Replace ‘place of birth’ with ‘place of education’ or ‘origins’ and you got the same result.
• second, you can always find advantages to being born in France, even without growing there : better chances to have parents who excel at pétanque, better chances of going back to learn, or even better birth hospitals or whatever. I’m not trying to make a good point here, just finding a bs justification, because that’s what ‘being born male gives advantages’ is.
• last, being born male can also comes with innate disadvantages (less tolerance to pain, less flexibility) and acquired disadvantages (less elegance, more competition), not even including the hardship of being trans in our societies and the impacts of transition treatments. ‘Male chromosomes advantages’ mostly are strength and endurance, which are not the only factor in sports. Plus most of the factors that disadvantage women in sports come from social background rather than biological ones. And in the end, we cannot observe an overwhelming winrate in favor of trans athletes. ‘XY advantage’ is just a dumb argument that only makes sense when you don’t look further, just as the dumb argument i give for the impact of origins/birthplace/nationality.

I am pointing out that your tone comes as condescending and paternalistic “Sometimes in life…” considering Dessalines openly supports mass killings, promotes russian propaganda and claims all facts that don’t align with his worldview are a CIA conspiracy.

It is reasonable to question Nutomic’s association with Dessalines. It’s not a matter of being rigid in your views and not having an appreciation for a “big tent” approach. A big tent approach is not a deus ex machina that magically solves anything and everything. There are times when it viable and there are times when it is not.

Furthermore, the issue is not black and white. There are many other options available. Nutomic can take over Lemmy development while Dessalines can admin/mod ML and grad (and tankies can give him money for it). Nutomic can replace his Che Guevara avatar with something neutral, like the Lemmy mouse with a tool icon to highlight that he is a Lemmy dev.

This is clearly a major issue. Just look at the funding request thread on LW. I am not the only one who is unhappy with the tankie affiliation. Even on other social networks, Lemmy has a reputation as being infested with tankies, this is a clear blocker for growth.

So that’s a “I don’t have a source.”