How much of this was dieselgate and DEF fluid?
DEF: Googling say DEF was implemented in 2015 in Europe. Other posters have clarified the map shows NO2, which DEF reduces by “up to 90%”
Dieselgate: Also 2015. “On 29 September 2015, Volkswagen announced plans to refit up to 11 million affected vehicles, fitted with Volkswagen’s EA 189 diesel engines”. Affected cars emitted 40x the legal NOx levels. It also accelerated EV offerings. Also increased testing and scrutiny.
Yeah I’m leaning more towards this being dieselgate and DEF.
I dont trust anything that’s about an EU city and has* miles as units
Gas miles as units?
Probably autocorrect from “has”
could have seen that, think i didn’t because it the graph is about cars and pollution. I get op’s anti-us sentiment, but funny thing is that a lot of data in newspapers with graphs in km is still (at least partially) based on data and research from us but well
Keep seeing this picture but no control group. Give me the same data for a French city other than Paris to understand whether this is about local policy change or about emissions standards and the move to electric cars.
Googling tells me DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) was required in 2015 in Europe. Other posters have said this graphic is NO2, which is what DEF reduces.
There’s no legend. This is a worthless image
Also no control group to determine whether this was due to bike lanes like the post title claims
Legend? This is an image of Paris transforming from an active volcano into a radioactive site.
All the bikes run on uranium.
I posted this somewhere in the comments already, but copy pasting it to be helpful:.
Op cut it out for some reason, but it is in the linked article. Here is a screenshot of the ‘y-axis’:
The red parts are pollution.
Woah, woah, keep it down lads. There’s Americans around who can’t handle this kind of information!
I’m an American who wants European style cities and public transport because it’s actually better for drivers, too.
Germany has zero speed limit on some highways because of this.
Thank you
Although it is good that they added riding bicycle lanes I doubt that is the only reason for the lowering of pollution.
Not only do we have electric and hybrid cars, due to euro standard combustion engines have become a lot cleaner during the same span of time. Plus public transport has also become a lot better during that time.
Yeah but then you can’t feed the bycicle narrative because of course everybody starting their bikes to.commute those distances!
Well it does have a major impact, less cars -> less congestion -> less polution. But it has to work in tandem with other changes such as lowering driving speed increasing public transport network with emphasis on network, mandating tighter control on polution. You could say that the bicycle lanes are an indication of a change in attitude towards car only transportation.
Yeah, car restriction is the key. Then you must plan for people who needs to move. Cars don’t belong to the city, only for leisure trips outside.
They installed efficiency modules to reduce biter expansion?
Thanks for posting source, OP!
Just one more lane bro. I promise bro just one more lane and it’ll fix everything bro. Bro, just one more lane. Please just one more, one more lane and we can fix this whole problem bro, bro c’mon just give me one more lane i promise bro, bro bro please! Just need one more lane
Average lane-brainer argument
Fact: 99% of city planners quit one lane before they fix traffic
Cities hate it when planners do this one simple trick…
Are you a bot posting this on every thread? Or are you just here to feel outraged? Because this is a post about doing the opposite.
I get you, some comments are more natural when the story is a disappointing one
I’m genuinely curious how you could have read that and thought they was serious
Sarcasm
funny how he keeps posting something that people inherently KEEP FUCKING DOING with zero fucking positive results… almost as if they’re lampooning the entire shit state…
say, maybe it’s not literal? huh
This is the same thing as a graph where the y-axis doesn’t start at zero.
Op cut it out for some reason, but it is in the linked article. Here is a screenshot of the ‘y-axis’:
Oh wow, not even co2
c’est magnifique.
Cars also got more environmental. I’m/!not saying bike lanes are bad. But this might be a bit biased.
Thank jeebus a few 1000 kilos of steel and (micro)plastic, replaced every year with an even larger pile of resources, is not execactly environmentally friendly
If someone draws a conclusion from the facts it could be biased, but this is just merely data. You could say that it is framing a certain set of results, (since it doesn’t say anything about how pleasant a trip by car is compared to a trip by bicycle for example), but the collection data seems to done perfectly neutral.
If someone draws a conclusion from the facts
The title is framing the statistics with the implication that bike lanes and car restrictions are the cause.
(Fuck electric cars)
No I totally agree but it would be framing which is not the same as being biased, and the title implies a causation but doesn’t actually say there is one. Also could have kept quiet because i don’t really disagree with op.
I kinda agree . For all we know it might be also fasing out of fossil fuel based heating ( For example the reason for massive improvments of air quality in some cities in Poland is banning of old coal based heating , not banning of cars ). But im not french and i dont know if individual heating using coal or gas furnaces was ever the norm there. Also i think 2007 is a few years after euro 4 emmissions were created , so thats also a signifiact improvment on its own as pepole move slowly from older to newer cars . Basicaly i wouldn’t put all my eggs in one basket. Its probably a combination of multiple factors
The red areas doesn’t indicate temperature … it indicates thrown away cigarette butts
And it is going to get even better: https://www.dw.com/en/france-paris-to-increase-car-free-zones-after-referendum/a-72019387
That sounds nice but oof 4% turnout.
Yeah that is very low, but i don’t know what is normal in those elections.
