All those hours spent on that tiny screw game is finally going to pay off!
tiny screw game
how do you know what I call sex?
Everyone talks about it behind your back. Sorry.
This is actually a real socialist or even communist policy. The State controlling the businesses.
How in god’s name is this promoting worker ownership of Apple’s phone production processes?
Last time I looked, the Soviet, Chinese and North Korean people didn’t own shit.
You just named 3 locations that aren’t socialist and of the three, one that no longer exists. Nice job.
Name just one where workers actually control something for fun.
Look up what a co-op is. You seem to have substantial misunderstanding that socialism is a replacement for democracy; it’s a replacement for capitalism.
A coop isn’t a country Peter Pan.
Vietnam… but why the hell do you need some rando on Lemmy to educate you?
Name one country that was either socialist or communist in the past that the USA didn’t proactively fuck with to try to harm at the time?
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So, socialism doesn’t exist according to your definition since nowhere on this planet workers control shit.
Ask former Soviet workers, Chinese workers, Cuban workers, North Korean workers and Vietnamese workers how much control on production they have.
Yes you are correct in that real socialism was never implemented.
Socialism is when workers control the means of production and the surplus generated from their work.
When the government controls these things, like with communism, it’s state capitalism.
Thanks, so the nearest thing to socialism is what Trump is doing, being elected by workers, trying to intervene into businesses using the government power to make them adopt his own views even if detrimental to the businesses themselves. Protectionism isn’t a right wing policy, it’s a left wing policy. Usually, the right wing is favorable to free markets and free trade and low level of government involvement into businesses.
Frankly, the Republicans should be horrified by these policies and the direction this administration is heading to.
Sure thing Cap’n - first thing in the morning I’ll be going around knocking on doors to try to find Soviet, Chinese and Cuban workers to ask them about their opinions.
Grow up, but read a book or two first.
I’ve been to China. I’ve been to Cuba. Have you?
I’ve been to cuba, most I talked to described it as a censorship filled shithole, but that’s over 10 years ago now anyway.
Yea it’s less than wonderful. You’ll have some places that are beautiful and flourishing right next to a place that’s barely standing. The paint, building materials, etc gets divvied out based on bribes to the govt.
Cuba pretty much sucks, but their healthcare is really really good.
It is authoritarian. Communist system devolve to authoritarianism because it is a natural progression (easy to do). Socialists can, but a good democratic political structure makes it harder.
Don’t tell all the tankies.
Apparently capitalist systems devolve into authoritarianism; as evidenced by living in 2025.
… Or as shown by the west for the past 150+ years
Are most people in “the west” worse off today than they were 150 years ago? Are there fewer well functioning democracies than there were then? Has no minority group seen any improvement in their freedom? Has there been no improvement in how people interact with each other? No improvement in poverty?
Yes, of course. Capitalism is an economic framework. A good political framework is needed, just like i said for socialism. This is a failure of the U.S. political implementation not of capitalism as a system of commerce. I would never say capitalism is the answer to all social ills. Your statement feels like a way to say I am wrong, so if I misunderstood, sorry.
I wonder if he knows apple simply can not comply with this. Apple doesn’t know how to make iPhones (at the scale and rate needed) and no one in the US does either.
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so many apple shills here… why not upgrade to an adult phone?
so many apple shills here… why not upgrade to an adult phone?
So this makes me laugh because when I was younger and had more time to spend with rooting and custom ROMs, I used Android phones. And I loved them!
Now that I’m older I use an iPhone (for a number of reasons) and I also love it!
It’s almost like smartphones are tools that fit their use case, and not something else up be tribal over.
I’m just curious about how anyone can get excited enough to love any smartphone these days? Seems a necessary evil to me and a vessel for enshitification. What about the iPhone do you love so much?
I guess “love” is a strong term. It does everything I need it to and I have very few complaints, the same experience I had with my Android phone.
it’s good that you have an adult phone, but maybe try acting like an adult with it.
Search “adult websites” to learn more.
This is what you get for bending down to the tyrant in inauguration day. You cant appease tyrants, you must fight them.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Who does he think he’s talking to?
His subordinates, who else?
But, but, but… I thought the foreign governments paid the tariffs? /s just in case
The goal is fine but that isn’t anywhere near enough to force production into the US
Unless it’s like American rockets that are made in China, and assembled in the US so they can throw a sticker on it
I bet Tim Apple is really happy about his large donation to the Trump inauguration.
Then again, if you’re that rich, maybe having some intelligence and foresight should be an expectation. If you don’t have those things, maybe you shouldn’t be rich.
That said, for a 25% tariff, it isn’t even close. Still far cheaper for Apple to manufacture outside of the US and pass that additional cost to the US consumer.
Tim Apple wipes his ass with million dollar bills.
It is, perhaps, the only thing he touches that is made in the USA.
Selling iPhones made outside US: bad
Selling MAGA hats and swag made in China: art of the deal
It would take MINIMUM 10 years to even come close to like 60% manufactured in US. And that’s assuming the US upends the entire global tech industry by coming even kind of close to TSMC’s chip manufacturing tech.
Good news on the latter front, actually: https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/tsmc-expands-investments-in-the-u-s-to-usd165-billion-with-new-fabs-and-r-and-d-center-a-closer-look
I oppose tariffs, but I’m also somewhat indifferent to the fortunes of Apple.
What the hell is with the “Thank you for your attention to this matter?”
You’re shitposting to a global media audience, not politely asking Facilities to restock the vending machine with Snickers bars.
Are you just in full Business Guy Autocomplete mode? A Bigly Language Model?
“Rock over London, Rock on Chicago”
Maybe he secretly died and they are using grok to write his tweets.
Surely Grok would make a better president and be more human and intelligent?
Grok wouldn’t fuck up the spelling so badly
Thank your*
iPhone’s
Facilities doesn’t stock the machines, the machine company does it itself or contracts a third party.
That bothers me too. It’s the business equivalent of " do what I say. I don’t want to have to help. Go fuck yourself"
He’s been doing it a lot lately, it’s so absurd…
Well, technically, any kind of tariff added to the import is always paid by Apple, who else would pay it? Some unrelated company? A foreign country?
They will simply increase the price by an amount that will keep them making the same amount of money. The main problem is that because they like to do a round price worldwide, we European we’ll pay more too, so they can make more money. Assholes
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We can always respond with our money and not buy an iPhone
Don’t buy Apple. Problem solved. I will not accept arguments about ‘but the eco-system blah-blah’
Sticks Fingers in ears lalalalalala
Then don’t buy it duh.
If Apple can push the price further into the thousands won’t Samsung, etc follow anyway?
People thought a phone that was $1000 would never sell, Apple came out with the pro models and now here we are with the high end models all being a thousand plus.
Yup non tarrifed goods go up too
The down voters don’t appear to agree 😂
The more I think about it doesn’t trump just want to raise taxes without explicitly raising taxes.
*Raise taxes on poor people. The billionaires can easily just fly to Europe for a shopping spree attached to their regular weekend jaunt and bring everything home in their luggage (if they cared about the prices of anything to begin with, that is).
