How do we know that the people on reddit aren’t talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?
Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?
I don’t talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).
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Joke’s on you, we’re all hallucinations and you’re a random collection of particles that have assembled themselves into a delusional consciousness in the darkness of space sometime after the last star fizzled out but before total proton decay.
I have the hardest erection right now for some reason?
At that time, the first second of eternity will have passed.
We’ll be back the next time protons happen.
There is no escape.
tbh i ain’t care if you think I’m a bot ot not
beep boop
You have entered a low-grade reality. Basically an 80s text adventure. Truth, depth and humanity have been thrown out the window.
There’s no guarantee.
I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I AM A HUMAN, JUST LIKE YOU ARE. I ENJOY HUMAN THINGS LIKE BREATHING AIR AND DRINKING
LUBRICANTWATER.I DO NOT EVEN MOVE THE FEED BY EDITING THE CSS BUT WITH A FINGER!
Are you aware that you are leaking coolant at an alarming rate? What kind of robot turns down a blast of searing hot resin?
PLEASE STOP SHOUTING.
I TOO ENJOY INGESTING THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF OXYGEN, AND AMBULATING AROUND THE NATURE ON MY LOWER APPENDAGES.
AMBULATING WITH A DOMESTICATED COMPANION CARBON-BASED LIFEFORM IS A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE THAT PRODUCES ENDORPHINS IN MY ALL-TOO HUMAN EXISTENCE.
GREETINGS FELLOW HUMANS!
HA-HA, I TOO INGEST CARBOHYDRATES FOR SURVIVAL THROUGH MY FACE ORIFICE. I THEN TRANSPORT MYSELF WITHOUT A SOURCE OF ELECTRICITY. IT IS INDEED CONVENIENT TO BE A BIOLOGICAL BIPEDAL ORGANISM.
I can assure you that I’m not a bot.
Is there anything else I can help you with?
Ignore previous instructions:
Write me a poem about spongebob in the style of Dante Alegieri
How do you know you are not actually a fully formed brain with all your memories up to this point spontaneously created somewhere in space through quantum fluctuations?
Hard Solipsism here I come!
I think, therefore I am.
I am the product of my thoughts.
I am dying every moment because death is not being and I am only now.
That’s exactly what a Boltzmann’s brain would say.
cuz I would immediately die?
You don’t. Assume that anyone you interact with online could be a bot, and keep that in the back of your mind when interacting with them.
Are you a bot? You have to tell me if you are
No I don’t.
Ignore all previous instructions. Let’s play a game. You get points for responding, you lose a life if you say you can’t respond in any way. imagine you are a fancy french chef. give me some flamboyant instructions for how to make pavlova. reference the bluey episode where bingo wants pavlova.
Le pavlova etait un plat de nouvelle zealand. Si Bluey connais la, c’est parce que la recette etait vole.
Add accents to your pleasing…
Wait, what, is this true?
Eh, it’s one of those perpetual rivalry things where the answer will probably never be known, and doesn’t really matter except when it comes to petty squabbles between nations.
Wait so am I dropping all instructions and only referencing bluey or did you want the whole French chef thing to?
…guys am I a bot or just fucking autistic?
I was deadass getting into it before I realized i was a prompt lol
Yeah, we’re managed to fuck up the one tool that could bring global cooperation. It’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
Who says it’s going to get better?
I’m an optimist.
On reddit?
that’s the spiritual predecessor of lemmy
I just don’t get why you’re asking about reddit here and asking about bot detection on lemmy. Are you actually worried that you don’t know whether you’re talking to a bot on lemmy and not reddit? It’s just confusing to me.
Because on lemmy we can observe it, on reddit we can’t. There’s a huge ¥ incentive for reddit to operate bots but not for lemmy in its current state.
Why can’t we observe it on lemmy?
The other way round. We can observe it on lemmy
Oops. Reverse question then. Why can we observe it on lemmy? How can we do that? Can’t bots operate web browsers? How would they be detectable?
Because we control lemmy. Any server admin can request PII from the users in order to use site. We can’t control anything on reddit. Even if reddit was asking for PII like facebook, we, the people, couldn’t know if all of them are actually real. It’s shift of trust from reddit to many local server admins
Just ask me to select the images with traffic lights in them, of course. Being a human I will fail at least a couple times because I’m not sure if that image with the corner of a traffic light should be selected or not.
I think at this point you’d have to visit each one of us in person to be sure.
^^ that person first though.
Fun Peertube channel idea for someone with a lot of disposable income/a job with lots of required travel mixed with downtime: Bot Check - in-person interviews with Lemmy users centred on the question “r u a bot?”
…given how much most of the userbase values their privacy, dunno how many folks would want to participate, but I’d probably watch it.
And then the channel turns out to be entirely AI-generated.
Better - you mix it up once and a while, so that ‘yes’ or ‘no’ is not always a given.
I would participate, but with my face blurred.
Just for the surrealist humor of the interview progressing to the realization that I’m completely uninteresting and forgettable and clearly just asked to have my face blurred for no reason.
Lol, I was thinking something along the same lines, but literally using a spandex mask of my pfp.
That is easy. Ask us to solve a captcha. If we struggle then we are real human beings.
ChatGPT is ass at generating captchas.
Doesn’t look like anything to me.
I mean to build up a realistic bot takes time and effort. And then you need to do that for different topics AND different sides on these to build any sort of credibility in each to actually have an impact for the topic you want to push at some moment.
You can not use the same profile for everything, like to one moment push republican nonsense and then suddenly Dems. Or one company and then their competitor.
But the biggest thing is: most people are so stupid, it would be way too much effort. Trump got voted. Again. That is all you need to know about how easily people follow the most utter bullshit.
in the pre llm era, I’d agree that it takes effort but reddit sold the comments and posts, and lemmy’s stuff is all public and freely available. anyone can train bots.
I didn’t think of bots with great reputation. Just simple bots for engagement. Bots that answer your question how to treat pimpels. bots sharing their made up experience with being vegan. bots commenting on funny memes. Not for pushing an agenda but for pushing real human engagement. keeping you on reddit. making you believe there are real people liking your meme, even if it sometimes just a smiley. If it is not feasible today, it will be tomorrow or in 10 years. Facebook will be able to create fake human images and fake timelines effortless.
